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Yah you have to be kinda patient for like 10 secs and then its hord, j3 is hard to deal with, shield punishes laser at like half screen, i cant teleport, basically cant jump, etc.

he loses what the

why is r.e.t.a.r.d.e.d censored

Bane is retarded lool.

Darkseid in all honesty is just mid boys, hes not trash but hes not great either. A reasonable buff is either f2 a mid, or faster trait recovery,maybe a safe low.

pre order shaokahn- lets fucking go my favorite fucking character.

Characters alright where he is now. He is around top 15 imo and with the new nerfs to the tops he got a bit better too.

fate is top 5 free , idk about top 3 but top 5 for sure, the only fate who plays him right is theo imo, most fates think that ba is bad or 5-5 but ppl like ominous dragon rewind all think fate bops adam, theo bodies theme and plays the mu mad good, same in other mus, theo only thinks fate has...

yah d1 bounce cancels combo now i was gonna post it like right when the patch but forgot lol

manta does not get 7-3d by wowo lol, shark attack punishes shield toss from every range except max, and instant air punishes from max im pretty sure could be wrong on that, but that mu is not 7-3. Darkseid doesnt lose 7-3 either more like 6-4

I dont lose to ga s either well i choked against sooneo at nec, but thats cuz i choked a lifelead when i was up. I mean arrows loses the lifelead its def over but he could just be throwing a lot of lows shots out and only tele or xx shot will hit him, and doing a tele is a read anyway because if...

Yah ga vs ds is a 5-5 me and luu both thinks so, hellboy is aids,flash and sg is aids, ba is 5-5, harley is probs darkseid favor

5-5 im just god

Tweedy he isnt mid hes probably like bottom 10, with that being said the character has many good things about him like bdogg who imo is the best joker by a mile makes the character look retarded, like the mix in the corner is dumb.

yah if lunge hits and then he xxs hes safe if he misses lunge and then xx its unsafe.

No if the first hit of meterburn lunge whiffs hes ppunishable only if lunge hits then hes safe.

Lunge does 5 percent on chip for a bar and if u dont space it you get punished, and it does 14 percent on hit for a bar as well,his damage got nerfed hard and he was already not doing that much damage, his wakeups are meh. The character is top 10 but again he is no where near as oppresive or as...

Playing2win i like you buddy but this isnt an argument lol, sonic thought darkseid was top 3 lmao prepatch and that he beat aquaman lol, when in reality the char wasnt even top 15 at the time. So thats not an argument and while m2dave is a good redhood he isnt the second best at tall, flowchart...

While I agree that bladam,manta, and redhood dont really break the game and play the neutral well, cw and sg do break the game lol. Cw has some of the wackiest shit in this game, doesnt let the opponent play the game at all and has everything ranging from busted staggers and mix, to jump ins and...

darkseid loses.