Patch 1.05 WC hit box

[Showtime]

So I really don't see a difference. What exactly did they mean by altered hitbox. It still grabs from all distances I used pre-patch and doesn't grab any higher vertically

If someone found something out please inform me

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[TakeAChance]

Maybe it hits the attacks that used to allow it to miss, like sweeps and such. Just a theory.

 

[usedcarsalesmang]

It possible that the hit box was not altered at all. Colt said that some would not be changed.

 

[ll Nooby ll]

It possible that the hit box was not altered at all. Colt said that some would not be changed.

We're talking about his Walking Corpse move. But I am interested if anyone notices a difference with Grundys D2.

 

[1truking]

We're talking about his Walking Corpse move. But I am interested if anyone notices a difference with Grundys D2.

I tested it out in training mode and the forward range didn't seem any better. He still gets blown up by cross ups because his hurt box extends higher than the hit box. May have a better u/f range but I'll almost always use a d,f1 in that situation anyway.

WC seemed slightly longer range to me. it definately doesn't grab out of normals that have throw immune frames still. Tried it 3 times in a row against a HG and got blown up each time.

 

[doubleperfect]

so......walking corpse was a let down....lol range was the only thing given to him. i didnt think that was needed, grundy players needed something against "throw immune" strings or to grab odd hurtboxs such as sweeps

edit; and his d2 seems like it hasnt improved that much. batman can still crossover 2 beating out d2 most times when timed properly

 

[1truking]

so......walking corpse was a let down....lol range was the only thing given to him. i didnt think that was needed, grundy players needed something against "throw immune" strings or to grab odd hurtboxs such as sweeps

Ya its a rather odd buff/change. I can't think of anybody who would even ask for it or say that his range wasn't long enough. Still sticking with WCC inputs not crossing up and controllable throw directions on aa grab and/or trait. Maybe buff the hurtbox on d2 so he doesn't get blown up by point blank cross ups.

 

[doubleperfect]

Ya its a rather odd buff/change. I can't think of anybody who would even ask for it or say that his range wasn't long enough. Still sticking with WCC inputs not crossing up and controllable throw directions on aa grab and/or trait. Maybe buff the hurtbox on d2 so he doesn't get blown up by point blank cross ups.

ya batman is notorious for that braindead jump in set ups. haha. the problem is if you do grundys anti air special too late the inputs come out wrong giving you clever spin, and d2 doesnt hit well above his head. and if you do get your anti air special on the opponent theres another issue; it throws them out of the corner.

this is the only game i can think of that a grappler throws the opponent out of the corner....lol, grundy needs them in the corner especially against zoners imo, a directional throw would be nice.

 

[Showtime]

If you do defense chain in corner, your opponent ends in the corner

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[doubleperfect]

If you do defense chain in corner, your opponent ends in the corner

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i know... i was talking about grundys anti air throwing them out of the corner. lol

 

[1truking]

If you do defense chain in corner, your opponent ends in the corner

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? power chain puts them into the corner if you only do the 2nd part the other 2 all end on the same side they started.

 

[Showtime]

Usually if a opponent is cornered they try to jump out, you input aa throw opposite way and throw them back in, if they neutral jump use d2

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[Owerbart]

Walking corpse seems to have more of an horizontal range. Now just touching with your fingertips will grab them. As much of d2, I always try to go for safer options with the aa grab.

 

[cedarbridge]

Usually if a opponent is cornered they try to jump out, you input aa throw opposite way and throw them back in, if they neutral jump use d2

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Alternatively, you can usually get away with some kinda derpy stuff by just mashing D2 on their corner wakeups. Depending on the opponent you'll blow up most slow startup wakeups and allow either a full punish off the D2 or just cancel straight into trait and a new hard knockdown and back into the corner mixups. If they block and don't know the setup you can frame trap off the D2 block into a raw trait grab. Most characters can D1 out of it but they'd have to know what's going on to avoid it. Characters like Batman can parry the silly business but if you call it out with a neutral j2 you can actually get an even bigger punish than you would off just the D2.

 

[1man3letters]

yea havnt noticed any big changes about what the move can do, seems pretty much same to me.

 

[1truking]

More testing last night on d2. It seems like it may have a better hitbox in the u/f area. Its definately not directly in front of him like so many others. I hit and traded with batman jump 2 at times where I don't think I would've hit before and possibly would've missed with AA grab. It felt slightly faster but may have just been me being used to online and playing offline training. Its entirely possible nothing changed because I will almost always use the 5 frame AA grab in that situation anyway.

 

[NRF CharlieMurphy]

tis a shame they just didn't give the d2's priority over all jump moves.

 

[cedarbridge]

tis a shame they just didn't give the d2's priority over all jump moves.

Imagine it.

 

[1truking]

Imagine it.

I've seen it before. Killer instinct basically had universal near perfect anti airs. It didn't work out very well.

 

[Asodimazze]

I don't find any differences after the patch for Grundy :/

 

[BenGmanUk]

I don't find any differences after the patch for Grundy :/

Me neither. His biggest problem seems to be WC whiffing on random strings, b3s etc. I wasn't interest in the range as that was fine. It was random misses and getting blown up for it that's the issue. Oh well, he' still fun.

And what the hell is up with Batmans parry beating his MB trait grab??

 

[1truking]

Me neither. His biggest problem seems to be WC whiffing on random strings, b3s etc. I wasn't interest in the range as that was fine. It was random misses and getting blown up for it that's the issue. Oh well, he' still fun.

And what the hell is up with Batmans parry beating his MB trait grab??

Pretty sure all parries beat his trait and throws in general. Maybe not wonderwomans haven't tested that one.

 

[doubleperfect]

Pretty sure all parries beat his trait and throws in general. Maybe not wonderwomans haven't tested that one.

this right here is super annoying, a parry that stops throws? lol da faq
grapplers get no love

 

[NRF CharlieMurphy]

from what i've found

The hitbox prevents people from backdashing it after a string, or on wakeup. Which doesn't matter cuz everyone knows to just NJ.

I'm starting to get annoyed with jumping moves having priority. Just takes all the fun out of it.

 

[cedarbridge]

this right here is super annoying, a parry that stops throws? lol da faq
grapplers get no love

Lets be honest here. The last NRS grappler that got any sort of love was Goro.