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TheSpore

Nurgle Chaos God of Death and Disease
This is what I've been saying/dealing with...
I wanted xbone to be good...it isn't..
You are saying things people blindly defending them can't/won't hear...they just call me a sony fanboy which is funny because a few months ago I was being called an xbot...but in the end its true I am a fanboy but I'm a game fanboy and in the end all I care about is how I play/consume/enjoy/own my games...:)

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Sorry, I as well have never been a fanboy, I deal in logic and facts not opinions. I feel ya man people jsut like to place their two cents in when they know it is meaningless.
 

Saint Op Omen

Savagely beating his super-ego with his id...
Sorry, I as well have never been a fanboy, I deal in logic and facts not opinions. I feel ya man people jsut like to place their two cents in when they know it is meaningless.
Logic and facts are foes of the emotional...I think I got that in a fortune cookie once...but yeah its useless to argue it its a whole science vs religion thing...

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Ilthuain

Lost in a labyrinth of egoism
Also, its obvious you haven't done your research considering your only retort is to try and discredit me. Sorry, but I have nothing to prove to you, so go away.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngaudiosi/2012/07/18/new-reports-forecasts-global-video-game-industry-will-reach-82-billion-by-2017/

"Across the board the biggest driver of growth is online distribution and online usage business models. These continue to take share away from the traditional model of selling physical boxed software at retail. The report Online Game Market Forecasts estimates worldwide revenue from online games to reach $35 billion by 2017, up from $19 billion in 2011. DFC believes that the next generation of console systems will allow for substantially more online distribution."

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/09/tech/gaming-gadgets/console-gaming-dead

"That time has come. Gaming consoles have transformed into entertainment hubs for people to stream movies or YouTube videos. So much, in fact, that gaming consoles no longer are being used primarily for gaming. In fact, "40% of all Xbox activity now is non-game," Microsoft boasts. Amazon and Netflix streaming accounts for most of that, as they do for Wii and PS3.

Combined, game consoles account for half of all Netflix users. This is great news for the movie industry. Not so great for console gaming's bottom line, especially since the industry largely subsidizes consoles now."


http://www.slideshare.net/bcousins/when-the-consoles-die-what-comes-next

I was at this discussion when he gave it at GDC. There weren't too many people in the crowd grumbling about how incorrect he was. He's currently spending most of his time being insanely wealthy.




So, tell me about your research. Oh wait, you don't have time to do it, but you totally could and it would completely rock me.
 

TheSpore

Nurgle Chaos God of Death and Disease
http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngaudiosi/2012/07/18/new-reports-forecasts-global-video-game-industry-will-reach-82-billion-by-2017/

"Across the board the biggest driver of growth is online distribution and online usage business models. These continue to take share away from the traditional model of selling physical boxed software at retail. The report Online Game Market Forecasts estimates worldwide revenue from online games to reach $35 billion by 2017, up from $19 billion in 2011. DFC believes that the next generation of console systems will allow for substantially more online distribution."

For one you could find a source from that is bit more recent rather than the middle of last year this data is too old to even consider. Also you say this is a claim the physical media is disiappearing, which isn't the case in gaming, its mainly PC and other forms (dvds and cds). Also consider the current backlash on the XB1 and the forcing of this market on the users, shows there is still a strong demand for physical media.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/09/tech/gaming-gadgets/console-gaming-dead

"That time has come. Gaming consoles have transformed into entertainment hubs for people to stream movies or YouTube videos. So much, in fact, that gaming consoles no longer are being used primarily for gaming. In fact, "40% of all Xbox activity now is non-game," Microsoft boasts. Amazon and Netflix streaming accounts for most of that, as they do for Wii and PS3.

Combined, game consoles account for half of all Netflix users. This is great news for the movie industry. Not so great for console gaming's bottom line, especially since the industry largely subsidizes consoles now."

Another irrelevent source from last year, keep in mind that if you were to view trends, console sales start slumping towards the end of an generation of gaming, its typically caused by the fact that people are awaiting the next gen. Also mobile devices and smart phones are more accessable than a gaming console is. This retort about non-gaming uses for the systems is just another point taht shows the gen is ending.

http://www.slideshare.net/bcousins/when-the-consoles-die-what-comes-next

I was at discussion when he gave it at GDC. There weren't too many people in the crowd grumbling about how incorrect he was. He's currently spending most of his time being insanely wealthy.

Sorry I can't view this video currently, the computer here in my class has no ability for audio, so I will take you word for it.


So, tell me about your research. Oh wait, you don't have time to do it, but you totally could and it would completely rock me.
I have told about my research already, you are only attacking me to justify your opinions, IDC anyhow, I have already pointed things out thogh your information isn't wrong, but its irelevent to the fact that this gen is almost over and considering the massive backlash from consumers about the XB1 it is proof enough of where the industry is headed. The concept of an all digital future isn't trully possible yet either, more and more these corporations are trying to force it on the public, yet the pubic continues lash back at it. Now if you don't mind I have work to do, because unfortunately I actually have a life to attend to and would rather take care of that, instead of deal with an online warrior who actually attacks almost everyone's points, because they feel the need to gain superiority over others.

Also, if you want to present information your doing it wrong, a few random links, prove nothing, you have to view the data yourself and you have to be able to spot patterns and trends rather than take another jounalist's word for it then you can form accurate information to present, this is rule #1 in being an analyst. Again its only what I did for the military so what do I know!
 

MorbidAltruism

Get over here!
I have told about my research already, you are only attacking me to justify your opinions, IDC anyhow, I have already pointed things out thogh your information isn't wrong, but its irelevent to the fact that this gen is almost over and considering the massive backlash from consumers about the XB1 it is proof enough of where the industry is headed. The concept of an all digital future isn't trully possible yet either, more and more these corporations are trying to force it on the public, yet the pubic continues lash back at it. Now if you don't mind I have work to do, because unfortunately I actually have a life to attend to and would rather take care of that, instead of deal with an online warrior who actually attacks almost everyone's points, because they feel the need to gain superiority over others.

Also, if you want to present information your doing it wrong, a few random links, prove nothing, you have to view the data yourself and you have to be able to spot patterns and trends rather than take another jounalist's word for it then you can form accurate information to present, this is rule #1 in being an analyst. Again its only what I did for the military so what do I know!
I know right? He just spammed you random links... LOL. :p
Let me teach you about my favorite band...
http://www.slayer.net/us/home
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Slayer

As you can see... I have done my research! :D
 
Here is my take on the exclusives atleast.
Sony has built a network of 1st part Studios over the years. They come out with great exclusives year after year, and its always a steady flow of great titles coming. I mean look just at whats left for ps3 compaired to 360. 3 huge titles coming for ps3 still, 0 for 360. They have showed a very small amount of their titles so far. We know every studio in Sony's house is working on a ps4 title. We've only seen half?
Where as on the Microsoft front. They have always had 1 or 2 HUGE exclusives a year at most. They aren't nearly capable of 1st party production like Sony is because they just don't have the Studios under them to keep up. However for the X1 launch they did something to cover that weakness up, they threw money at the problem and bought 3rd party Developers to make them exclusives. Crytek (Ryse), Respawn (Titanfall), Insomniac (Sunset Overdrive), and Capcom (Dead Rising 3). None of these developers are Microsoft owned. According to Respawn, they were contracted to make 1 exclusive and their next game can be multi platform. This is a ruse from microsoft, none of these games that are exclusives they've shown, accept Halo, have a future with Microsoft.
On the other side of this all of the Sony exclusives are 100% Sony made, they will be on Sony for a long long time. People buying into these microsoft exclusives are not looking close enough.
 

Saint Op Omen

Savagely beating his super-ego with his id...
I know right? He just spammed you random links... LOL. :p
Let me teach you about my favorite band...
http://www.slayer.net/us/home
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Slayer

As you can see... I have done my research! :D
Wow thanks I have never heard of this Slayer before but that (even without any music) makes me belive they are awesome...;)

But do not fret in the last couple interviews when xbox reps were asked about the negitive backlash they said they expected it and are not worried because you can always buy an xbox 360 and bring that on your submarine....yes that is the real answer they are giving..they are not changing anything...

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TheSpore

Nurgle Chaos God of Death and Disease
Wow thanks I have never heard of this Slayer before but that (even without any music) makes me belive they are awesome...;)

But do not fret in the last couple interviews when xbox reps were asked about the negitive backlash they said they expected it and are not worried because you can always buy an xbox 360 and bring that on your submarine....yes that is the real answer they are giving..they are not changing anything...

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Wow they really don't care about customers buy their products do they...
BTW I present Slayer - Raining Blood

 

Saint Op Omen

Savagely beating his super-ego with his id...

CHAINSAW305

Jus chill'n
Did you guys see that the PS4 will have a bunch of free to play exclusive MMO's?

DC Universe Online will be one of them, which is really a great, entertaining game.
Besides that there will be Planetside 2 and ... War War ... War-something, can't remember the name. But a MMO shooter!

Ou, it's starting on Gametrailers!
What about Titanfall and BF4? Awesome fps games!
 

MorbidAltruism

Get over here!
Wow thanks I have never heard of this Slayer before but that (even without any music) makes me belive they are awesome...;)

But do not fret in the last couple interviews when xbox reps were asked about the negitive backlash they said they expected it and are not worried because you can always buy an xbox 360 and bring that on your submarine....yes that is the real answer they are giving..they are not changing anything...

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Yes. Slayer is one of the big 4 thrash bands. Definitely worth checking out...

Are you serious? Microsoft isn't changing anything? They are really setting themselves up for failure....:D