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MorbidAltruism

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Hope that Microsoft will drown in their own greedy shit and never enter the console market again. I'm no Sony or Nintendo fanboy but the shit they're trying to pull this gen is disturbing. This new Freemium fighting game model that some companies are trying to push is a joke and will be boycotted by customers.
Exactly. Only the minority will contribute to this F2P phenomena... it wont attenuate our efforts. I just think we need to give it a little time to fail... ;)
 

Duck Nation

Dicks with a future
Free-to-Play fighting games are a great idea. They have absolutely the wrong concept of how to go about it.

That said, I would not be shocked to see KI migrate to another platform after Microsoft gets humiliated so badly they quit the console gaming market altogether. They've been making so many very serious missteps both in terms of PR and business practices that it seems almost inevitable.

Damned shame either way. If it is good, nobody will know it, and if it's not then we're not likely to see it come back period.
 

Vulcan Hades

Champion
So let's pretend it's like this:

Black Orchid - 5$
Chief Thunder - 5$
Cinder - 5$
Fulgore - 5$
Glacius - 5$
Jago - FREE
Kim Wu - 5$
Maya - 5$
Riptor - 5$
Sabrewulf - 5$
Spinal - 5$
TJ Combo - 5$
Tusk - 5$
Gargos - 5$
Eyedol - 5$

If that's all the characters they have then that's 70$ for the full game which is "reasonable" I guess. (even then, I'd rather not have to buy every pieces of the game separately)

If they have 4 or more new characters then the full game price will be 90$ or more and that's when it starts getting pretty expensive. You know, for something that should've already been available from the get-go.

Actually, this idea is both sad and interesting. Imagine if Injustice was 100% free and you only had to pay for the characters and stages you cared about/wanted to main. I would've probably only paid 10-20$ instead of 60$ which sounds like a pretty sweet deal for such a fun game. :)

Players willing to spend 80-100$ for the full package can do so, while cheap players like me can still play and enjoy the game for a fraction of the price.

Of course one problem with that concept is how do you know which characters you want to main if you can't even try them without having purchased them first. lol
 

Big Frog

Kombatant
Actually, this idea is both sad and interesting. Imagine if Injustice was 100% free and you only had to pay for the characters and stages you cared about/wanted to main. I would've probably only paid 10-20$ instead of 60$ which sounds like a pretty sweet deal for such a fun game. :)
Sweet deal indeed, but if M$ can get your $60 from the start by just selling it, you know they would. Something is strange here.
 

MorbidAltruism

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So let's pretend it's like this:

Black Orchid - 5$
Chief Thunder - 5$
Cinder - 5$
Fulgore - 5$
Glacius - 5$
Jago - FREE
Kim Wu - 5$
Maya - 5$
Riptor - 5$
Sabrewulf - 5$
Spinal - 5$
TJ Combo - 5$
Tusk - 5$

If that's all the characters they have then that's 60$ for the full game which is reasonable I guess. (then again, I'd rather not have to buy every pieces of the game separately)

If they have 4 or more new characters then the full game price will be 80$ or more and that's when it starts getting pretty expensive. You know, for something that should've already been available from the get-go.

Actually, this idea is both sad and interesting. Imagine if Injustice was 100% free and you only had to pay for the characters and stages you cared about/wanted to main. I would've probably only paid 10-20$ instead of 60$ which sounds like a pretty sweet deal for such a fun game. :)

Players willing to spend 80-100$ for the full package can do so, while cheap players like me can still play and enjoy the game for a fraction of the price.
That is the problem though. How do you know which characters you want to play/main. I mean it wouldn't be so bad if every character was available in training or something so you could test them out. :)
 

Duck Nation

Dicks with a future
Dead game? Dead game.
I'm just really glad that nobody is falling for it, after the initial applause. The xbone would clearly be very destructive to the FGC in particular. If everyone accepts PS4 as the standard out of the gate, it'll make life a lot easier all around for the eighth gen. No more dual modding sticks, no more adapters, no more compatibility issues, no more minute differences between consoles...
 

Killzone

Warrior
How can KI's lackluster attempt to break into F2P fighting be excused, looking at these? Jago's not what i'd even consider top 5 iconic for his franchise, and he's the sole option for people curious about the game to play? Please.
In their twisted minds Jago is the Ryu of Killer Instinct and therefore he is the only available option at the beginning.
In my own personal opinion Fulgore should be viewed as the "main", "standard" character of the Killer Instinct franchise.

But speaking of being iconic ... who besides Fulgore would you put above Jago?
He would be in my top 5 for sure. Fulgore on the first place, then probably Glacius afterwards (not Cinder, because he is cheap) and then already Jago :-O
Showing your tits doesn't make you iconic IMO, so don't even mention Orchid!

PS: I'm not even bothering about what they're doing with the game, since I won't be getting a X-Bone for sure. It's still a shame to see such an old, iconic franchise being that mutilated... being developed by a "lackluster developer" is one thing, but free to play and with DLC characters from the get go? It's like: "HEY, WE KNOW YOU WANTED THIS GAME, BUT WE DON'T GIVE A FUCK AND WILL ONLY TRY TO MONETIZE THE HELL OUT OF IT, SINCE THERE ARE NO CROSS PARTNERSHIPS FOR US WITH THIS GAME!"
 

IceNine

Tired, But Strong
In their twisted minds Jago is the Ryu of Killer Instinct and therefore he is the only available option at the beginning.
In my own personal opinion Fulgore should be viewed as the "main", "standard" character of the Killer Instinct franchise.

But speaking of being iconic ... who besides Fulgore would you put above Jago?
He would be in my top 5 for sure. Fulgore on the first place, then probably Glacius afterwards (not Cinder, because he is cheap) and then already Jago :-O
Showing your tits doesn't make you iconic IMO, so don't even mention Orchid!

Personally, I've always thought it was:
1. Fulgore
2. Spinal
3. Glacius
4. Orchid (Gonna have to disagree with your assertion that being the game's most popular femme fatale ain't iconic)
5. Sabrewulf

Then just below them are TJ Combo, Cinder, and Jago in no particular order.

Then the rest.
 

Trini_Bwoi

Kombatant
Each character has to be expensive I think. At least buying all characters would have to be more expensive than a regular game otherwise this would make no sense from a business perspective. Not only that but they'd need to make more money on average. So it's all about how many characters they think you'll buy. The average person isn't going to come out of this transaction a winner.
 

MorbidAltruism

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I always thought Sabrewulf was the popular one... just like in Tekken I thought King was the iconic one... I always hype up the cools ones! :joker:
 
Yes. Saw that in the other thread. It is obviously not a good idea. I feel bad for everyone getting hyped for Killer Instinct... it is really disheartening to see such BS. I mean not to mention the fact that it was developed by a studio with a less than decent track record. Its graphics don't look next gen... I don't know... :(

Edit- I also heard it wont be tourney viable... because of the Xbox One's restrictions... I mean the game being digital only is bad enough... plus it is bound to a console that is doomed to fail.

It isn't Killer Instinct IMHO... it is just a cheap knockoff in an attempt to appeal to our nostalgia.
You know, there were a fuckton of people that said the exact same shit about MK9.
Don't be too quick to judge man.
 

MorbidAltruism

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You know, there were a fuckton of people that said the exact same shit about MK9.
Don't be too quick to judge man.
Oh really? I wasn't aware that MK9 was developed by people who had no idea about that series. I wasn't aware that MK fans have been adapting to changes from the beginning... MK1/MK3/MK4/Deadly Alliance/MK9. All very different games...

MK9 also properly hyped itself up... it also had up to date graphics... it wasn't digital only... it wasn't exclusive... it wasn't bound to a failing console... obviously it has had a pretty successful tourney life (something KI3 will never get)... it is not a cheap knock off to appeal to our nostalgia... but rather a game to go back to its 3d roots.

Do I need to point out that MK9 wasn't a F2P cash grab?

As an MK fan... obviously I think that is full of horseshit. I know some people were worried... but MK9 was nothing like this piece of trash KI. I am surprised fans of the series are even considering it as a part of the main series. Personally I would be pissed if my favorite franchise was desecrated in an attempt to sell more consoles...

/rant:p
 
Oh really? I wasn't aware that MK9 was developed by people who had no idea about that series. I wasn't aware that MK fans have been adapting to changes from the beginning... MK1/MK3/MK4/Deadly Alliance/MK9. All very different games...

MK9 also properly hyped itself up... it also had up to date graphics... it wasn't digital only... it wasn't exclusive... it wasn't bound to a failing console... obviously it has had a pretty successful tourney life (something KI3 will never get)... it is not a cheap knock off to appeal to our nostalgia... but rather a game to go back to its 3d roots.

Do I need to point out that MK9 wasn't a F2P cash grab?

As an MK fan... obviously I think that is full of horseshit. I know some people were worried... but MK9 was nothing like this piece of trash KI. I am surprised fans of the series are even considering it as a part of the main series. Personally I would be pissed if my favorite franchise was desecrated in an attempt to sell more consoles...

/rant:p
You can't exactly say that they don't know shit about the series. All 2 of their games have been out since..what 1998? That's plenty of time from being given a project to do some research on a whopping 2 games. The graphics of gameplay from the MK9 trailers were hella bad compared to what they released, so to judge a game based on the 2 videos released is a terrible point.

I'm just saying that you said the game is being released to give us a bit of nostalgia and has shit graphics, while there were a ton of people saying the same for mk9. Also, Midway has had a horrible track record in terms of tournament fighters. UMK3 and MK9? Thats 2 for 20 man.
 

trufenix

bye felicia
Overreacting on TYM? Shock.

This move is genius, and as long as the game isn't hot garbage it will work like a charm. Idiots will buy every character day one and never play half of them, skeptics will watch YouTube videos and streams and buy the cool ones they run into online, and the thrifty will buy 2 or 3 characters and be happy to have only spent 10 bucks instead of 60.

Xb1 is a logistical train wreck, but there is absolutely nothing werong with this f2p implementation.
 

MorbidAltruism

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You can't exactly say that they don't know shit about the series. All 2 of their games have been out since..what 1998? That's plenty of time from being given a project to do some research on a whopping 2 games. The graphics of gameplay from the MK9 trailers were hella bad compared to what they released, so to judge a game based on the 2 videos released is a terrible point.

I'm just saying that you said the game is being released to give us a bit of nostalgia and has shit graphics, while there were a ton of people saying the same for mk9. Also, Midway has had a horrible track record in terms of tournament fighters. UMK3 and MK9? Thats 2 for 20 man.
Oh. I wasn't sure what you were getting at so I tried to counter everything... I mean yeah... but I doubt they were MK fans. I wasn't complaining... at all! I cant speak for anyone else though. :)
 
Oh. I wasn't sure what you were getting at so I tried to counter everything... I mean yeah... but I doubt they were MK fans. I wasn't complaining... at all! I cant speak for anyone else though. :)
haha its all good man! The response you gave me, I wasn't too sure where I was getting at myself lmao.
For me, I want the game for exactly the nostalgia purposes, and the sf4-esque engine kinda gave me frothy loins haha.
 

MorbidAltruism

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haha its all good man! The response you gave me, I wasn't too sure where I was getting at myself lmao.
For me, I want the game for exactly the nostalgia purposes, and the sf4-esque engine kinda gave me frothy loins haha.
No doubt. I hope the game is what everyone wanted it to be. Honestly I am dropping off. I don't have the nostalgia to warrant it... I just tried the games out... never got into them. :p
 
No doubt. I hope the game is what everyone wanted it to be. Honestly I am dropping off. I don't have the nostalgia to warrant it... I just tried the games out... never got into them. :p
I was maybe 7 when I played it the first time. It was so fun, regardless of how shit I was lol. The combos and fatalities were so much like mk, it felt like playing mk with different skins and no run button haha.

I'd like for KI3 to be tournament worthy, and if it isn't, I have a fun thing to do with my friends when they're over lol