Menu
By:
Filters
What's new

Strategy The Boy Wonder! -- Nightwing General Discussion Thread

Status
Not open for further replies.
Cosmic_Castaway

Cosmic_Castaway

Flying Grayson
He doesn't have anything that's full invul, just the normal 7-8 frames of invul on his moves that everyone else gets. Staff Spin does have invul on it, because they can just jump over you and cross you up while you spin the opposite direction. I guess if you expect them to do that you can do Flying Grayson instead. Against some characters that might not be a good idea though, because you'll have to get back in on them.

Btw, does anyone else know that MB staff spin will whiff on ducking Wonder Woman in Shield and Sword stance if she's in the corner? So weird.
 
dribirut

dribirut

BLAK FELOW
so after demoting my nw to secondary about 4 weeks ago behind super i am de promoting him back to tied primary.. i think people are realllly sleepin on escrima pressure..
 
Cosmic_Castaway

Cosmic_Castaway

Flying Grayson
DukeofFortuneMan said:
And Catwoman, and Joker I think, small hitboxes.

Also thanks.
Click to expand...
The four that we knew about before:

-Catwoman
-Killer Frost
-Ares
-Solomon Grundy

Thing about Wonder Woman is that it won't whiff on her ever when she's in Lasso stance. And midscreen it doesn't whiff against Shield and Sword. Just in the corner. It screwed up my corner pressure hella bad at one point lol.

Sent from the Batcave
 
E

Evid3nts

Noob
Cosmic_Castaway said:
He doesn't have anything that's full invul, just the normal 7-8 frames of invul on his moves that everyone else gets. Staff Spin does have invul on it, because they can just jump over you and cross you up while you spin the opposite direction. I guess if you expect them to do that you can do Flying Grayson instead. Against some characters that might not be a good idea though, because you'll have to get back in on them.

Btw, does anyone else know that MB staff spin will whiff on ducking Wonder Woman in Shield and Sword stance if she's in the corner? So weird.
Click to expand...
NW's escrima fury has full invincibility. I had no idea until I tested it in casuals. It blows SHIT up. You just can't depend on it at all times
 
Cosmic_Castaway

Cosmic_Castaway

Flying Grayson
Evid3nts said:
NW's escrima fury has full invincibility. I had no idea until I tested it in casuals. It blows SHIT up. You just can't depend on it at all times
Click to expand...
Wow, really? That's awesome to know. Thanks. And yeah...I figured a -24 special wouldn't be fully dependable regardless of invul or not.
 
Saitsu

Saitsu

Apprentice
Cosmic_Castaway said:
Wow, really? That's awesome to know. Thanks. And yeah...I figured a -24 special wouldn't be fully dependable regardless of invul or not.
Click to expand...

Well it's just like how reversals should be for the most part. Potentially gets you out of jail, insanely detrimental if it doesn't connect.

Of course, unlike most, this one would lead to 30% meterless if it actually connects.
 
E

Evid3nts

Noob
Saitsu said:
Well it's just like how reversals should be for the most part. Potentially gets you out of jail, insanely detrimental if it doesn't connect.

Of course, unlike most, this one would lead to 30% meterless if it actually connects.
Click to expand...
Exactly!! I found it out after dealing with an overly aggressive GL. Blew him up into a stance change and combo and took the match. Just like myself and many other NW's we would have never guessed this move to have it. Also I'm not 100% sure but in staff it seems that flying grayson has more invul. frames than staff spin. I took notice after watching REO use it at ECT. Although it has funny timing just like flip kick on wake up
 
E

Evid3nts

Noob
I'm also not sure if anyone is aware that GL's b1 string that goes into the overhead can be interrupted with any move 6f or less meaning 112 and 113 are both are guaranteed. Other than that this match up is still very nerve wrecking
 
AK partyeagle

AK partyeagle

Mortal
Alright dicks , this is the first time i have gotten to play in a while(real life sucks) but I have been in the lab for a bit and i have been working on some stuff.

firstly i worked on some of the flying grayson tech @STBTakeAChance was doing . while I like the combo into it i decided to try and find other ways into this, I found you can do this off of a raw 1f2 or 1d3 with proper timing, and while technically you can tech roll outta the 1f2 , the thing is the roll timing is so strict on this move that you would have had to known that they were going to 1f2 before hand , and if so you would have just blocked 1f2. and the great thing about the setup off of 1f2 is that if they start blocking by just hitting d then you f3 them and combo back into the same mixup (f3 ji2 3 1d3) . finding that with the right timing you can about do a meaty grayson they have to block even if they crouch off of just about anything ( you can even flying grayson , then do a meaty flying grayson lol) but finding setups that beat wakeup attacks is gonna be harder.

then after this I started working on my own tech, lately i have been doing b2 db3mb as my pressure tool, its three overheads in a row and people really dont expect it, but the only thing you can get to connect at that range is another b2 , but b2 into anything wont connect. so then i started doing b2 db3mb b2 trait and then I either do a slightly delayed flying grayson or db2MB . the great thing about this is that you get a meaty flying grayson for more pressure or you get a meaty db2MB , personally so far I find the meaty db2MB a much better option solely because if they wake up attack , they go through the first spark and the second spark launches them and punishes their wakeup attempt . once they start respecting the wake up you will find that f3 , in both escrima and staff connect at the very tip of there ranges after the b2 db3mb b2 combo as well.
 
Adam Todd

Adam Todd

Ana-R-chY
One random off topic question, When did Dick ever use a staff? I remember him using the sticks and Tim Drake being the Robin to use a staff.
 
W

Wasted

Mortal
The sticks have always been able to make a staff, as far as I recall, but yeah, I don't remember Dick actually using them that way.
 
AK Gookus

AK Gookus

Slant-eyed Nightwing
Not sure if I've seen it posted anywhere but after seeing Lulz use it twice against SrryImWhite, I'm loving it.

b2 hit confirmed into b2xxFury and when they fall, b2xxSparks. Forces em to block low. Sick?

Edit cause I just saw it:
I'm very happy how quickly Lulz turned the advantage from losing his 50/50 map select.
He lost his Atlantis (a decisive win just moments ago) to Metropolis Rooftop, Lulz shakes his head in disappointment, takes a deep breath, and begins. Just a mere 6 seconds in, he already has RelaxedState going to the Museum. No more drones for power characters. Yay.
 
Reauxbot

Reauxbot

You think you bad? You aint bad.
NightwingDayZero said:
Video thread.
Click to expand...
There should be more Nightwings in tournaments. Dafuq. I just picked him a couple day ago and became a mad man.
I also got hotmail for spamming with staff somehow :/
Has anyone ever experimented with his ground spark cancell in mud blockstring? I haven't tried it but it seems like an idea maybe
 
Cosmic_Castaway

Cosmic_Castaway

Flying Grayson
Reauxbot said:
There should be more Nightwings in tournaments. Dafuq. I just picked him a couple day ago and became a mad man.
I also got hotmail for spamming with staff somehow :/
Has anyone ever experimented with his ground spark cancell in mud blockstring? I haven't tried it but it seems like an idea maybe
Click to expand...
If they stream the Xanadu monthly in MD I'm attending next month, I'll do my best to get on stream. Pretty sure LulzLou will be there too? Not sure, he was at the last one.

And ground spark mid blockstring isn't good. I tried it with f2,1,3 and just got mashed out of it.
 
Saitsu

Saitsu

Apprentice
Yeah, never do Ground Spark in a blockstring. Even if you don't get mashed out of it, it's still -4 on block.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.