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PR Balrog gives us his thoughts on INJUSTICE, patches and does he agree with Filipino Champ?

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Onilordasmodeus

My GT: UncappedWheel82
It's this type of back and forth that draws a line in the sand between communities and does more bad than good. Fact is top players are top players, and regardless of the game certain things translate over from game to game, and contribute to top players being top in many games. The close mindedness of some people is staggering on this subject.
 

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
I hope Killzone realizes that Daigo has a stronger list of accomplishments than Chris G by a good length.

And I like how people are trying to play off REO as someone not good enough to be considered at the highest honors in the FGC, because he plays only one game. Tomo Ohira only played CPS1 SF2 competitively, and was widely considered among the best FG players of all time. Are we going to disregard his status as well? Because, to be honest, that's what you are implying.

/StayHating
 

Sasarix

"Heaven Will Fall!"
This whole thread has become toxic someone should close it before more ppl get subjected to this crap.
 

RWDY Nori

MK is kinda dope
I like how Filipino Champ acts like those same guys can pick up games they want and own people. None of them are "dominating" anybody in Tekken and many other games. FC is just pissy that NRS is starting to threaten the Capcom boys
 

Lainy

Noob
I like how Filipino Champ acts like those same guys can pick up games they want and own people. None of them are "dominating" anybody in Tekken and many other games. FC is just pissy that NRS is starting to threaten the Capcom boys
It's funny you bring up tekken, because FCHAMP wouldn't make top 32 in it at a real major with weeks of practice.
 

Killzone

Warrior
Linkuei82 THTB

A man with only one functioning eye is still the king amongst blind people.

That's the problem with the MK9 community: You actually believe that you're at the same level as the Capcom community, when it comes to competition and games.
You're not. If you really believe that you had the same competition in MK9 that Capcom players had in SF4 and especially UMVC3 then you're clearly ... man, just forget it.

As I said it - a person with one eye is still the king amongst blind people. REO has one eye and blind people are his competition. (And no I'm not saying that he is the best MK9 player and that there is no one else who can keep up with him yadda, yadda, yadda ... the competition is now the amount of people who participated in these tournaments).

FC is just pissy that NRS is starting to threaten the Capcom boys
That's something that you don't get, since you don't see the bigger picture and if anyone reads your entire posts and agrees with you, then that person does not get the bigger picture as well.

"Threatening the Capcom boys" would be if you would go to their games, which are harder than MK9 and for now also harder than Injustice and have far more established competition and to own them in their games, where the real money and sponsors are at.
If you don't do that, there is no threat to them and not even REO is doing it, therefore he is not on their level.

And now once again:
DO I THINK THAT REO WOULD DO WELL IN OTHER FIGHTING GAMES?
Yes I do. To be honest I even think that he would do better than many established Capcom guys, since REO seems to be on point most of the time.
But does REO deserve to be called one of the best, just because he has the potential? No, he doesn't, since there is nothing to back it up with. He never faced actual competition and never did it in multiple games at the same time.

All of that means more than getting the second place at EVO.
 

ceemurda

Tha BLakk ROBOCOP
Maybe certain players are better at certain games. Is that such a complicated concept?
Not when one person can win 3 games at a tourney or atleast enter and do well... Almost every mk player only plays mk.. Most sf players play and/or do well in other fighters... Is it that such complicated concept..

What kills me the most is how mad some of you guys got at f.champ and chris g took yall money at ufgt.. So for right now he is right until one of you hardcore mk players step ya shyt up and win a capcom fighter..

Deal with it lol

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jaym7018

Kombatant
They're all deep, solid games but just different. I just feel for someone to say "such and such didnt play mk cause it's not deep or its easy to win in(even though its not) is a copout, bs excuse for not wanting to get involved.

Just the vibe i'm getting, i have no issues admitting that im far better in nrs games then i am in capcom games. Look at halo and cod, two different games, same genre if one guy is great in halo but alright in cod or vice versa would you discredit the guys skill because he's better in halo then cod? Both games require a good level of skill, they're just different.

for jayme, lol, obviously you dont seem know what media means...ok, outside entertainment that spawned from the game. Again, who cares about trivial things like "this player has more money or entrant amounts" unless a game gets literally like 10 people or something ridiculously low, most evo games get at least few hundred players typically..point is if you make evo you're worthy and obviously a top quality game, period. As for that ouside entertainment...hmm ok, cartoons, comics, tv series, web series,clothes, films....mk has made far better products then sf. Hell,legacy alone fucking owned the last two sf movies if you tally up demand and views lol. just watchun li and watch mkl and get back to me. Not to mention music, figures etc BTW, storyline does matter in a fighter and games in general now because you must realize the deeper the story, and fleshed out characters there are the greater the chance for a sucessful movie or series to spawn off of that. Example, MK and injustice vs. SF and mvc....

I'm also not talking about umk3, i didnt even mention it...it was a big deal prior to mk9, now not so much but point is, perfect legend, reo, cd, michaelangelo, tom brady etc have won in far more mk and/or now with injustice tourneys then any capcom player. Money isn't the sole reason for playing, again it's to get known, supporting the game, the scene and getting the game out there...money is a bonus. You seem to be obsessed with just money, k in that case everyone knows the mk films, legacy etc have made more money then any sf film and that mk9 and injustice more then likely too have outsold mvc3....

Why the heck are you talking about movies who cares that has nothing to do withe game or its players. And you say you play to ge well me as someone who doesnt play mk i had no idea who Reo was before playing injustice only mk players i knew was tom brady cause of him sharing a name with a football player and PL for his sucess at EVO. And yes money is what matters when talking about the best of the best. You mention playing to get known (which also means money) go to japan and say Reo is a top 5 FG player in the world and you will get a bunch of blank stares and people saying "who".
 

G4S Claude VonStroke

@MK_ClaudeVS on twitter
I'm sorry to tell you but MK2 and UMK3 aren't relevant anymore. Their scenes are scarce and I don't know of any "famous players" that still bother themselves to learn that game. Those games aren't even at majors. The only relevant games he plays are injustice and Mk9, though the melee thing was news to me. I know nothing about that scene.

His track record isn't good enough to say he's top 5 in U.S.
Once again the lack of knowledge on tym is astounding. Those games are at majors
 

RWDY Nori

MK is kinda dope
Killzone I've been competing nationally for games since 03 I get the big picture brother. Overall Capcom is FAR more established and I'll even say Namco is number 2. Just look at SRK and how they act towards the NRS games, they sound threatened, even though they really shouldn't be. And yes, FC champ is known for his temper and getting pissy and that post doesn't surprise me, so it was to him specifically
 

Under_The_Mayo

Master of Quanculations
Not when one person can win 3 games at a tourney or atleast enter and do well... Almost every mk player only plays mk.. Most sf players play and/or do well in other fighters... Is it that such complicated concept..

What kills me the most is how mad some of you guys got at f.champ and chris g took yall money at ufgt.. So for right now he is right until one of you hardcore mk players step ya shyt up and win a capcom fighter..

Deal with it lol

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So every top Marvel player is Chris G now? Chris G wins everything he touches. At least in the first few months... I look forward to the excuses that will be made as no other Marvel player wins an Injustice tournament and the top 8's continue to be stacked with MK pros.

And you should work on your English. You invite dismissal of your opinions when you not only use "ya'll", but you use it incorrectly and can't even punctuate. Bro.
 

Peckapowa

Warrior
funny how people think zoning is too "strong" in this game when all the top tiers outside of superman and blackadam are rushdown (and they are good because of insane mobility), this game has stronger rushdown then zoning for sure...
 

MIKECALDWELL

Dojo Trainee
If you aren't aware if wins Almost Every MK2 tournament he enters. Almost Every UMK3 tournament. And this is winning over people who have been playing since day 1. Almost every MK9 tournament. Now looks to be tops in injustice. And also one of the best Melee players. Basically whatever game he decides to take seriously, he's arguably the best in. I see no reason why that wouldn't translate to other FG's. He just doesn't like them, from what he's told me.

He is a good MK2 player, but not great. High level MK2 players don't travel to events. I know what I'm talking about because I've played Reo 100+ matches. UMK3 might be a different story, but I'm pretty sure there are plenty of guys that would beat him consistently.

Edit* You do have a point though. He rarely plays those games, but he still manages to be a contender.
 

Killzone

Warrior
Killzone I've been competing nationally for games since 03 I get the big picture brother. Overall Capcom is FAR more established and I'll even say Namco is number 2. Just look at SRK and how they act towards the NRS games, they sound threatened, even though they really shouldn't be. And yes, FC champ is known for his temper and getting pissy and that post doesn't surprise me, so it was to him specifically
The first post I ever made on that topic is that FilipinoChamp is known for his trolling and that he is even going so far and insulting other players heavily - and that no one should ever take him serious.

People here did. That tells me more than enough about the TYM community.

So every top Marvel player is Chris G now?
Not every Marvel player is Chris G, but most of the well known Marvel players are consistent and they place in their TOP 8 and some of them do it even in other games like SF4, which is a damn hard game.

You need to realize that the randomness of Marvel can be your downfall and AgoeJoe was the best example for it. He came from Japan with low tier characters, but such good strategy and assists, that he blew everyone up, because people didn't know how to deal with that.
Mess up something during the match and one good X-Factor / Happy Birthday can destroy you in that game.
To come out on top in that game on a regular basis means more than playing Kabal and doing IAFB's all day long to get rid of most of the competition.
 

gamemk

Dojo Trainee
Long opinion.

A big problem with the MKC ,imo, is that its current foundation is built on a console community rather than an arcade community. The result of this is a community that is almost entirely devoted to a single game/series/franchise (3d MK/MK9/IGAU) in the fg genre and little to nothing else besides other 3d games and very few non MK 2d games. Instead of making an attempt to crush Capcom players at their own game, MKC fights with itself, and argues over hypothetical game scenarios like what if REO played Primal Rage or Samurai Showdown 3--he would be so gdlk.

When arcades were still around, you would go in, get bodied in the game you liked (unless you were good), and then do one of three things: watch and learn, play something else, or take your ass home. Those were your only options. You didn't get to keep playing fgs if you were ass like you can do on a console. This is why Floe called Japanese arcades DBZ hyperbolic time chambers; that's because arcades( not just the ones in Japan) did, and most likely still do separate the wheat from the chaff. Watching and learning upped your skills, and it helped you make friends to get tips from or discuss strategy. Taking your ass home speaks for itself. Playing something else....

Back then, nearly everyone played multiple games in the arcade--at least they did in the arcades I frequented. You had to because you couldn't always play or be good at the game you were most interested in, and because fg players played fgs. Good MK players also played SF (and vice versa); Samurai Showdown; Fatal Fury; and KI (this is pre/early 3d era). This Sunnyvale Golfland, socal, norcal, stuff that is part of the fgc lore, where SF is the master of all fgs, and they only devote themselves to SF, doesn't seem like it was the norm anywhere else. It certainly was the norm prior to the release of MK1, but after MK1, no one in my arcade took SF seriously, due to the cartoon graphics (but it still got played, less so when the vs series of games were released. Either way, I still love SF just as much as MK).

Everywhere else, the norm seems to have been that most people played MK (the most popular arcade game), SF, and everything else. And, if you wanted to decide who was better in a game, you got on the sticks and played. There was no theorizing that because my game does x and yours does y, my game is superior and thus, I am most likely a stronger player than you are.

In contrast to the MKC fgc, the Capcom fgc still retains its roots to the original arcade fgc (Valle/Daigo), and the most recent arcade fgc, which was built around MVC2 and Thirdstrike (Wong, Floe, Yipes). Furthermore, the actual games themselves have stayed more true to their roots than the MK games have to theirs. When Valle plays 90's era games and AE, he's not having to split his skills, relearn things, or drastically change what he needs to do to in order to try to win; However, the same is not so for arcade MK players.

Maintaining continuity in a franchise leads to a more cohesive scene, and better skill in the community overall, because it keeps the arcade mentality alive, and constantly breeds new people with that mentality. But, playing for $$$ instead of personal pride is threatening to undo all of it. Shame.

Lastly, yeah, MK2 is old and mostly irrelevant, but the underlying fundamentals of the game, fundamentals that are also in SF2, AE, and KOF, are all in MK2: zoning, yomi, matchup knowledge, non universal normals, neutral jump attacks, frame traps, corner "rape", and lame style. MK2 is the closest MK game to a SF game that has ever existed. SF4 is MK2 with ex roman cancels, overheads, meters, dashing and a focus attack. SF4 is what MK2 would have evolved toward in a perfect world, and what MK9 is closest to being save for , universal attacks, full screen attacks, full screen unblockables, 3d hitboxes, and frame data that is more 3d fg than 2d.

Anyway, stop arguing, play some fgs, different fgs, and keep supporting and pushing NRS to deliver quality 2d fighters. MK fgc scene would dominate every 2d fighter if it only behaved like a 2d fighter, because MK already dominates every other fg financially.
 

RWDY Nori

MK is kinda dope
Most sf players play and/or do well in other fighters
No, not even close to true. You have any idea how many people play SF? You think MOST SF players do well at other fighters? I am primarily a 3D player, I cannot tell you how many SF and Marvel players attempted to play Tekken and Soul Calibur were mauled trying to play something that didn't involve SF.

Justin Wong is great at SF/Marvel. That's one very unique gamer. You think he's good at everything? Dude he gets bodied left and right every time a new tekken comes out. I don't see any of these top players playing Virtua Fighter and doing well either. If you think the AVERAGE SF player is just magically better because they pressed start at SF4, I have no need to respond anymore

One of the ONLY players I know in the USA that is actually good at multiple games in 2D and 3D is JOP (for the new school players he was at the first MK9 evo)
 

Insuperable

My mom tells me I'm pretty
Why are all of these new Injustice players trying to talk shit? The only people that are top players in Injustice are members of the MK community or top Capcom members. I have yet to see one of these Injustice spawnlings even entering an Injustice tournament. The ONLY players who have made it to grand finals at a big tournament are Tyrant (MK), Godspeed (MK/Capcom dunno which one he mains), Chris G (Started with umk3 hold dat), REO (MK), Tom Brady (MK), CDjr (MK), Aris (Tekken), PimPimJim (MK), GGA Jeremiah (MK). Where are your Capcom gods now, new Injustice TYMers?? Also, I bodied Chris G 2-0 at ECT Quan vs Reptile no rounds taken.
I'm his master hold dat w1nter warz I need a popoff

MK > EVERYTHING
Got 4th in Mahvel at NWM4 after playing for a day hold dat
 

RWDY Nori

MK is kinda dope
Killzone You can't knock the TYM community for saying stupid shit when sites like SRK exist, I'm sorry. Every single FG community has ignorant people, it seems you're trying very hard to isolate TYM members like they are idiots when they are most likely the same people who play SF/Marvel etc at SRK
 
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