General/Other Buff DS trait , its useless now .

[DuskAlloy]

So I take it nobody even took the time to find out..smh

Right now Im messing around in TTT2 maybe later

 

[Mikman360]

How about... making his sword flip safer. Not killer frost safe, but maybe -8 or something.

Maybe make his 323 no longer a dead string?

Faster start up/recovery on his machine gun?

Sword Flip safer = broken
323 is fine the way it is. Long range, safe, damaging
Machine gun would just get nerfed again if it was better due to whines

 

[ryublaze]

Quick question to ds players.

Can you activate trait safetly after a successful clash?

Tested against Joker and he can punish it pretty easily with Bang!

 

[MC Clusky]

his trait gives him his prepatch guns for so many seconds. It'd be better than the current unblockable guns trait that nobody bothers with.

This is half a troll post, and half serious. The patch was worse than I thought after a full night of playing. No frame trap guns, missing air guns is a much worse mistake, and they're just much harder to use as a solid zoning foundation.

 

[DaiHuu]

They should lower the start up frames for the trait, rather than just change it all together. I personally like the trait even though I can never use it. ;p

 

[LEGEND]

i wonder if there are any characters that can't punish a 23 xx Trait combo ender. If there is then you'd be one counter poke away from getting an unblockable combo starter

Still, i wish he had a trait that was more integral to his gameplay. Like something that swapped between buffs for Swords and Guns

But whatever, he's great the way he is

 

[Mikman360]

Make the guns do full damage on block (no knockback or stagger), MASSIVELY shorten the time needed to activate it, no post trait blindness.

 

[MashPotatoTower]

DS is still top 5 you loosers

 

[Mikman360]

DS is still top 5 you loosers

Cyborg
Superman
Aquaman
Black Adam
Batman
Deathstroke

He never was you loser. You're just mad Raven wasn't.
"My main sucks, so yours must too"

 

[Coddfish]

Make the guns do full damage on block (no knockback or stagger), MASSIVELY shorten the time needed to activate it, no post trait blindness.

I like this idea, seems like a good way to balance the trait. As the trait stands, I think it would be hard to make it worthwhile just by changing frames without accidentally making it really really good.

 

[RYX]

Cyborg
Superman
Aquaman
Black Adam
Batman
Deathstroke

He never was you loser. You're just mad Raven wasn't.
"My main sucks, so yours must too"

How the fuck does Raven suck?

 

[RYX]

Sword Flip safer = broken
323 is fine the way it is. Long range, safe, damaging
Machine gun would just get nerfed again if it was better due to whines

We should have a better AA gun at the least. Just saying lol

 

[KombatNerd]

Lol this guy...

Dont feed the trolls guys. He think DS has a good matchup against Nightwing.

I lol'd. DS beating NW, gtfo.

 

[IceNine]

I'd like to see some buffs/changes for any character whose trait doesn't really fit into their game.

Deathstroke, Harley, Joker, Cyborg. Joker's still ain't hot after some buffing, for pity's sake.

Even ignoring balance, I don't think as a casual player I'd like to have a button you really aren't going to be using/don't want to use.

 

[Mikman360]

How the fuck does Raven suck?

She doesn't. But it's a train of logic a lot of people who think the nerfs were justified use.

 

[Duck Nation]

Had a thought on a potential trait buff. Kind of wanted to put it in its own thread for visibility, but eh - clutter.

Deathstroke's trait to me seems to be less about hitting people with unblockable damage, and more about raising his threat level. I don't believe the intention was to make it so that Deathstroke just got an opportunity to do 20% or so from across the screen - I think it was intended to cause people to make stupid decisions, get impatient or panic and leave him with a window he could counter or punish via his other tools. As such...

Suggested changes (which probably will never get any traction but oh well)
- Decrease trait activation time to give him more safe windows to enable it (obvious)
- Effects pistols only (including during chains), no more unblockable machine gun
- No more guns whiffing after trait expiration, just goes into a cooldown like Superman or Green Lantern's traits

Yes, I am aware that these changes would likely give him the ability to do unblockable resets and almost certainly unblockable oki setups. Well... so what? ;D

 

[lebanese boy]

loll u guys think its easy to win with aquaman and calling him a god? pssh please go pick him up and humor me. unlike u death stroke players who have no probs vs chars like green lantern or nightwing... aquaman loses to chars like that bad so stop trying to act like aquaman has every thing better in life. if any thing both chars are around same level. death stroke prob slightly more versatile then aquaman tho

this comment deserve the best retarded comment ever
bro u r the best
and u r right even bane vs aquaman aquaman can't do anything vs him
aquaman trait is shit
like its useless why would people use it ?
its just useless
u r so damn right bro
i hope u win the online evo u play everyday

 

[RYX]

this comment deserve the best retarded comment ever
bro u r the best
and u r right even bane vs aquaman aquaman can't do anything vs him
aquaman trait is shit
like its useless why would people use it ?
its just useless
u r so damn right bro
i hope u win the online evo u play everyday

Bane beats Aquaman.

 

[lebanese boy]

Bane beats Aquaman.

yeah i know

 

[TONY-T]

you can still buffer it after throwing certain interactables. for instance after the rocket on ferris aircraft stage. After a 231 is partially viable too.

 

[Killzone]

Not bitching, just wondering why you want to fix someone who is still top tier.

Because Deathstrokes trait is useless.
Aquaman, Batman, Green Lantern, Superman, Doomsday, Black Adam ... they're all top tier characters as well and their traits are not as useless as Deathstrokes trait.

Nerfing Deathstrokes zoning so that "bad" players would struggle less with him is one thing, but nerfing an already bad trait even more in the process is unacceptable.
It was NRS's decision to have a trait button, which provides unique stuff for every character and that is nice and so on, but damn - if you want to come up with something like that then make sure that every character has a viable trait.

Buff bad traits ... Deathstroke, Cyborg, Joker, Harley Quinn, Bane and so on.

 

[RYX]

Because Deathstrokes trait is useless.
Aquaman, Batman, Green Lantern, Superman, Doomsday, Black Adam ... they're all top tier characters as well and their traits are not as useless as Deathstrokes trait.

Nerfing Deathstrokes zoning so that "bad" players would struggle less with him is one thing, but nerfing an already bad trait even more in the process is unacceptable.
It was NRS's decision to have a trait button, which provides unique stuff for every character and that is nice and so on, but damn - if you want to come up with something like that then make sure that every character has a viable trait.

Buff bad traits ... Deathstroke, Cyborg, Joker, Harley Quinn, Bane and so on.

Bane's trait ain't bad yo

 

[Killzone]

Bane's trait ain't bad yo

You know what's funny? When I play a Bane and he has the Venom LvL 3 debuff. He starts running away and I use my Deathstroke trait... The FEAR in the movement of Bane players. LOL!
But in all honesty, the debuff is way too long and lets him take way too much damage. It's not a bad trait overall, but the debuff is too much for a low tiered character.

 

[Lt. Boxy Angelman]

loll u guys think its easy to win with aquaman and calling him a god? pssh please go pick him up and humor me. unlike u death stroke players who have no probs vs chars like green lantern or nightwing... aquaman loses to chars like that bad so stop trying to act like aquaman has every thing better in life. if any thing both chars are around same level. death stroke prob slightly more versatile then aquaman tho

I play Aquaman. The only character who comes close to him is Superman.

And he is galaxies better than Deathstroke.

You even have an anti-zoning shield with a meter-free hit of armor, for milk's sake.

And in what world does Deathstroke beat Lantern?
He beats me from midscreen in so badly, it should get its own episode of the Steve Wilkos Show.

 

[RYX]

You know what's funny? When I play a Bane and he has the Venom LvL 3 debuff. He starts running away and I use my Deathstroke trait... The FEAR in the movement of Bane players. LOL!
But in all honesty, the debuff is way too long and lets him take way too much damage. It's not a bad trait overall, but the debuff is too much for a low tiered character.

Six seconds is too long? You can just keep comboing them lol. You can run out the whole thing with certain combos.

It's very good right now. Also those Banes are fools to ever let you breathe.