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Perfect Legend's Feedback on Version 1.03 of Injustice: Gods Among Us

GamerBlake90

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Injustice players everywhere, casual and tournament veterans alike, are providing their feedback regarding the recent changes made to the game through Version 1.03. Among them is Perfect "Carl White" Legend, who has inscribed his thoughts on his public WordPress.com account, covering every change made to the affected characters in plentiful detail.

Below here are two excerpts taken from that article. The rest, you may read up on through the link provided below. Please note that Carl has no feedback regarding Batgirl at this time, as she was only just released as a playable character yesterday and more time is needed for our players to understand how she functions.

http://perfectlegend.wordpress.com/2013/05/21/pls-thoughts-on-the-igau-batgirl-patch-notes/
Aquaman

Water of Life Character Power now lasts 2 seconds (down from 2.5) and has an 8 second cool down (increased from 7 seconds)
Increased the ability to punish a Trident Scoop (Down, Back, 1) from Aquaman when the defender blocks.
Normalized the amount of damage Aquaman inflicts on an opponent while they are blocking his Trident Rush (Down, Forward + 1)

Perfect Legend’s thoughts: Aquaman will be much easier to fight against. His character power recovers slower which means after using it you will have more time to rush him down and not have to worry about him blocking out of your hits until it has recovered. Not a lot more time but one extra second is good and it only lasts for 2 seconds now. Trident Scoop being more punishable is HUGE for the whole cast it is his main combo starter and a lot of Aquaman players will poke with it on block. This makes it so more than just a select few characters can fight him which will make Aquaman players become even more cautious when using this attack. They also decreased the chip damage on his Trident Rush which is a nerf as well. It was more so a really cheap thing but it isn’t what gets Aquaman the wins. I think the top Aquaman player Tom Brady will still perform well in tournament even with these nerfs.

Ares

Increased viability of Ares’ Teleport when used as a wake up attack.
Opponent’s can now perform a tech roll after being knocked down by Ares’ Invading Force (Back+2, 3) combo.

Perfect Legend’s thoughts: Ares finally can get up off the ground without having to spend meter! As an Ares player his saving grace was his reset which is very difficult to escape for most people because of the strict timing. He pretty much got both a buff and a nerf in this patch. With the back +2, 3 being tech rollable now Ares players now just have to rely on solid play to win but with the teleport being more viable as a wake up attack makes him much more formidable and a solid character overall. Ares should now play how he was designed.

(the article continues at the link provided near the top of the page)​

Credits to Art Killer B for providing the linked article.
 

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Vagrant

Champion
I'll be the guy that picks shit apart I guess....

First of all shoutouts to PL for this write up. Really cool of you to do for the community.

60-80% in the corner though? Nah.
Supes still gets 60+ in the corner

Joker got buffed! Joker players stop tearing up! Rejoice! Faster projectiles, parry does more damage and character power lasts longer (3 extra seconds). NRS is awesome buffing weaker characters!
Am I crazy for thinking this buff wasn't nearly as significant as he thinks it is? I mean he is really excited about it....

LBSH I don’t know anything about this character but I do know a low that is +10 on block is nonsense.
Nightwing is laughing his ass off right now

This patch should make Bane a lot more viable at least in the middle of the pack now.
I think he's still pretty low...


Other than that I agree with most of this write up. Good read. Was he drinking when he wrote it though? A lot of typos and random excitement.
 

deathblooms2k4

Apprentice
Interesting the two time Evo champ doesn't think DS nerf will change his position much as opposed to TBrady and Reo who think he drops. Seems the debate stretches to even the top players.
 

Jeffreys

Grundy think you handsome!
This to all you Superman scrubs, if PL himself said superman was unfair, THE SAME MAN that thought GODLAO should not have been nerfed, goes to show how bullshit superman is.
 

G4S KT

Gaming4Satan Founder
Deathstroke was S/S+ (highest tier) and has been dropped to A/A+ (second highest tier)

His nerfs significantly change his fullscreen game but he barely cares. The character is still amazingly good and like GGA Dizzy said I'm actually more interested in playing him now that he's less silly. Aris is one of the only high-level tournament reps for DS and he agreed in a post somewhere.

tl;dr -

LBSH, Deathstroke did not have a single losing match up pre-nerf.

PS: J360 got Top 16 at ECT after playing Deathstroke for something like 5 days.

ECT had 200+ entrants and was packed with all the heavy hitters from the East Coast including the capcom community guys.
 

Alexandru Pascu

XBLGT:LordR3van90
This to all you Superman scrubs, if PL himself said superman was unfair, THE SAME MAN that thought GODLAO should not have been nerfed, goes to show how bullshit superman is.
Learn to read, he said his damage in the corner is ridiculous and that his F23 Breath even though wasn't nerfed to -1 isn't a huge problem for him, and frankly generally not a problem for anyone that can hold back on d-pad/stick/whatever. I am at a loss as to where you got the idea he's unfair. And calling people scrubs for picking a character really shows how much of a sour, miserable sod you are
 

insomnia_ftw

It's simple.. We normalize the superman.
Joker got buffed! Joker players stop tearing up! Rejoice! Faster projectiles, parry does more damage and character power lasts longer (3 extra seconds). NRS is awesome buffing weaker characters!
Am I crazy for thinking this buff wasn't nearly as significant as he thinks it is? I mean he is really excited about it....
It doesn't make him gdlk, but now he can hit confirm into combos waaaaay easier. If you do 32 you have plenty of time to see the person blocking and do acid flower instead of RLG so you don't get punished.
 

aldazo

Waiting for Havik
Perfect Legend’s thoughts: Deathstroke’s position overall won’t change the Deathstroke players will just have to work a bit harder in zoning and will have to really plan out their attacks. I recommend all Deathstroke players getting more used to their up close gameplan to offset this nerf and deathstroke is pretty good upclose. I feel like Deathstroke should be able to activate his character power faster though.

The man is right :u. :).
 

TAS_DASH

Mortal
quaman didn't really get nerfed. The trait was only used mid combo by most high level users. 2 secs is still a lot of time for a combo breaker. The extra second of cool down is truly only half of a sec difference.

Before patch
trait 2.5
cool down 7
9.5 sec between usage.

After Patch
trait 2
cool down 8
10 sec between usage.

His scoop is usually hit confirmed with by great aqua players, he's virtually the same. Trident rush is still hella good on chip.

The Aqua nerf placebo effect. I do however agree more with PL than Brady's and Reo's. Thank you for seeing these options PL and seeing that DS is still the same, you're just being forced to use his other great tools. There are ways to safely get his trait off if you sacrifice damage.
 

Peckapowa

Champion
so they didnt fix superman at all they could nerf the recovery on heat zap(its plus 14 up close) and the cancel advantage on standing 3 to nerf his corner combos, and make his zoning i dunno, thoughtful??

glad they nerfed aquaman a bit, the character is still retarded (f13 f13 f13) hes a counter-zoner who can turtle but has arguably the best up close game in the whole cast

so they wrongly nerfed deathstroke, at this point they should buff his trait startup, his zoning was fine he was just a really good character now his zoning is really weak... there was no mixup or sustainability to it before it was only good because of chip.. now he just counterzones

they buffed the wrong things with sinestro... he simply needed a bit safer strings... now hes going to be in trait way to frequently and hes going to be the mother fucking antichrist...

they didnt fix frost or black adam yet... frosts whole design is fucked she needs her slide for mixups but it is way way too safe considering her parry, its a cheap move... black adam cant be punished...

bane buffs get an applause

um glad ares reset is gone
 

KIllaByte

PSN: playakid700. Local name: BFGC MonkeyBizness
so they didnt fix superman at all they could nerf the recovery on heat zap(its plus 14 up close) and the cancel advantage on standing 3 to nerf his corner combos, and make his zoning i dunno, thoughtful??

glad they nerfed aquaman a bit, the character is still retarded (f13 f13 f13) hes a counter-zoner who can turtle but has arguably the best up close game in the whole cast

so they wrongly nerfed deathstroke, at this point they should buff his trait startup, his zoning was fine he was just a really good character now his zoning is really weak... there was no mixup or sustainability to it before it was only good because of chip.. now he just counterzones

they buffed the wrong things with sinestro... he simply needed a bit safer strings... now hes going to be in trait way to frequently and hes going to be the mother fucking antichrist...

they didnt fix frost or black adam yet... frosts whole design is fucked she needs her slide for mixups but it is way way too safe considering her parry, its a cheap move... black adam cant be punished...

bane buffs get an applause

um glad ares reset is gone
You're saying Deathstroke has no zoning mixups? He can EX any gun of his for a surprise duration extension, and damage extension... He could choose to Air gun, mid gun, or low gun.
His nerfs are not wrong- not in the slightest.
Any casual could pick up this character and make players who put far more work into their characters lose- through only four special move commands. Take note of the J360 tournament placement. No character should be that easy.
 

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
Deathstroke was S/S+ (highest tier) and has been dropped to A/A+ (second highest tier)

His nerfs significantly change his fullscreen game but he barely cares. The character is still amazingly good and like GGA Dizzy said I'm actually more interested in playing him now that he's less silly. Aris is one of the only high-level tournament reps for DS and he agreed in a post somewhere.

tl;dr -

LBSH, Deathstroke did not have a single losing match up pre-nerf.

PS: J360 got Top 16 at ECT after playing Deathstroke for something like 5 days.

ECT had 200+ entrants and was packed with all the heavy hitters from the East Coast including the capcom community guys.
this is the best thing you've said in 2.5 years
 
You're saying Deathstroke has no zoning mixups? He can EX any gun of his for a surprise duration extension, and damage extension... He could choose to Air gun, mid gun, or low gun.
His nerfs are not wrong- not in the slightest.
Any casual could pick up this character and make players who put far more work into their characters lose- through only four special move commands. Take note of the J360 tournament placement. No character should be that easy.
he may not be hard to pickup, but did he actually need nerfs? heck no. Didn't even win a major yet, won some egp tournies tho so i'll give him that, egp be going hard. But ppl just whined bcuz they were too lazy to learn the matchup vs him, smh. Look at the zoning of chars in other fighters, he is no where near that bad.
 

NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
Deathstroke was S/S+ (highest tier) and has been dropped to A/A+ (second highest tier)

His nerfs significantly change his fullscreen game but he barely cares. The character is still amazingly good and like GGA Dizzy said I'm actually more interested in playing him now that he's less silly. Aris is one of the only high-level tournament reps for DS and he agreed in a post somewhere.

tl;dr -

LBSH, Deathstroke did not have a single losing match up pre-nerf.

PS: J360 got Top 16 at ECT after playing Deathstroke for something like 5 days.

ECT had 200+ entrants and was packed with all the heavy hitters from the East Coast including the capcom community guys.
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