What's new

Question Am I alone in finding him really boring?

Vagrant

Noob
Yeah... when you break down his strings and normals and crunch the frame numbers.... Theres some pretty powerful mixups/pressure options he has. There's nothing funnier in IGAU than fighting people who have never seen a deathstroke rush in before.
 
I don't know about how fun he is to use, but fighting him is a total drag and really just kills the experience for me.

But not a much as green lantern zoning, which I personally find even more annoying since I lose the ability to jump completely.
 

Psychotropic

Semi-Casual
Agreed. I found him rather boring to use. Just like i found Sinestro boring to use. DS does have a fairly good rushdown but meh, other chars are better at it. 90% of online DS's ive seen have played very lame. He's scrub friendly just like Scorpion. Ive seen some pretty godlike Deathstrokes too from people who choose not to be lame.
 

Gesture Required Ahead

Get on that hook
"Everyone needs to enjoy all fighting games in the exact same way and for the same reasons I do."

You're not going to change the fact that Slade is a complete groaner. You just know that when you pick him, the other guy is thinking "FFS..." not because he's scared of how elite you are, but because he knows this game is going to be a slog win or lose. In board and card gaming they call things like that NPEs- Negative Play Experiences.

You may think your fighting games are superior when they're being played exclusively by an elite cadre of complete reamers, but that mentality leads to games being bought and played by very few and then they won't get made at all and there will be people like yourself wondering what happened and why nobody is buying these good games.
You've answered the question yourself: Nobody plays good games. Gaming nowadays caters towards shitty gamers.
 

Amadeous

Noob
Agreed. I found him rather boring to use. Just like i found Sinestro boring to use. DS does have a fairly good rushdown but meh, other chars are better at it. 90% of online DS's ive seen have played very lame. He's scrub friendly just like Scorpion. Ive seen some pretty godlike Deathstrokes too from people who choose not to be lame.
Playing a "Lame" Deathstroke is very effective.

It is also fun.

I play to win and winning is fun.
 

Psychotropic

Semi-Casual
Playing a "Lame" Deathstroke is very effective.

It is also fun.

I play to win and winning is fun.
Not really. I can beat a lame Deathstroke no problem. It's the ones who also know how to rush-down that are dangerous.

I also play to win, only I don't resort to lame tactics to do so. 90% of online Deathstrokes do.
 

Amadeous

Noob
Not really. I can beat a lame Deathstroke no problem. It's the ones who also know how to rush-down that are dangerous.

I also play to win, only I don't resort to lame tactics to do so. 90% of online Deathstrokes do.
Some lame Deathstrokes actually know how to play the game.

There are good ones and bad ones. I play Deathstroke "Lame" but I can still win a match against someone who knows how to get around zoning.
 

Psychotropic

Semi-Casual
Some lame Deathstrokes actually know how to play the game.

There are good ones and bad ones. I play Deathstroke "Lame" but I can still win a match against someone who knows how to get around zoning.
Then you're not part of the 90% of online Deatstrokes ive encountered. They play lame but don't know what to do when people get passed their zoning.
 

Amadeous

Noob
Then you're not part of the 90% of online Deatstrokes ive encountered. They play lame but don't know what to do when people get passed their zoning.
Do you play PS3? I'm wondering If I could add you.

I think DS might start turning into a footsies character somewhere down the line if NRS makes the mistake of nerfing him or the metagame develops that way. I feel like I could learn something from you.
 

RYX

BIG PUSHER
DS is top tier. Let's agree on this.

He is most certainly a zoning footsies character. Safe 50/50s are always a plus.
 

Psychotropic

Semi-Casual
Do you play PS3? I'm wondering If I could add you.

I think DS might start turning into a footsies character somewhere down the line if NRS makes the mistake of nerfing him or the metagame develops that way. I feel like I could learn something from you.
I'm on Xbox. Ive no doubt that Deathstroke is a dangerous character. Just a lot of people haven't realised he has more to him than guns and that spinning blade move lol. The first time i got rushed down by a Deathstroke i didn't know wtf to do lol.
 
D

Deleted member 9158

Guest
I tried him out in practice mode for about an hour, couldn't get into him.

Not really into heavy zoners in this game.
 

Mikman360

Not the Milkman.
I'm on Xbox. Ive no doubt that Deathstroke is a dangerous character. Just a lot of people haven't realised he has more to him than guns and that spinning blade move lol. The first time i got rushed down by a Deathstroke i didn't know wtf to do lol.
50/50 mixups, safe combo starters, and F3 > F23 > B1U2 on block bro!
 

tazzmission

Banned
i never went online yet simply because of what happened to my account and i refuse to pay ms another 50 bucks just to get stolen again........... but ds to me seems like one giant spam machine and i brought injustice to a gaming night tourney me and my friends do and people thought aquaman was over powered. i think ds is by far
 

Crathen

Death is my business
B1U2 isn't safe , online it can be but offline if they block it they can interrupt generally with a d1xxspecial or even a fast combo starter , online the best i can do atm is just b3 MB.

In time we'll see it punished offline.

His real safe low option is d1xxspin
 
Actually for me because everyone whines about him, I look forward to fighting him.

It's a weird reverse psychology for me.


I don't find Killer Frost/Aquaman fun to fight against. Like I'm not complaining I don't want nerfs ect.

but jesus, the 2 characters I find the most unfun to fight against have to be higher-tier -.-
 

Lt. Boxy Angelman

I WILL EAT THIS GAME
B1U2 isn't safe , online it can be but offline if they block it they can interrupt generally with a d1xxspecial or even a fast combo starter , online the best i can do atm is just b3 MB.

In time we'll see it punished offline.

His real safe low option is d1xxspin

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
 

Amadeous

Noob
i never went online yet simply because of what happened to my account and i refuse to pay ms another 50 bucks just to get stolen again........... but ds to me seems like one giant spam machine and i brought injustice to a gaming night tourney me and my friends do and people thought aquaman was over powered. i think ds is by far
Ugh "spam".

All the game knows is winning and losing.
 

Mikman360

Not the Milkman.
B1U2 isn't safe , online it can be but offline if they block it they can interrupt generally with a d1xxspecial or even a fast combo starter , online the best i can do atm is just b3 MB.

In time we'll see it punished offline.

His real safe low option is d1xxspin
Are you sure about this? I just did some blockstring testing. I set Flash to reversal with flying uppercut (fastest special in the game as far as I know) and he was not able to punish B1 nor B1U2.

In fact, in the corner, he WAS able to counter D1, Sword Spin. Midscreen he couldnt though. What are you using to punish this? Paired with the huge pushback of this string on block, I don't think I see what you're getting at here.
 

Skkra

PSN: Skkra
It's just adorable that every time I read a post with blatant or thinly veiled negative remarks in it, the person has almost inevitably only just signed up on this site. Please understand that you are on a website that fosters a competitive community and players with a competitive mindset. The vast majority of us play for fun, but when doing so, we play to the best of our ability.

If you're playing in a way that purposefully handicaps you from using the strongest possible strategies, then you are NOT playing to win, even if you think you are. While you may even believe that you are doing this in the name of things like "not being cheap," you're not doing anyone any favors - particularly yourself. Push yourself! Push other players! Learning, improving, and playing these games at the highest level is far more fun than playing a "fake" version of the game shackled by some false notion of "honor" or whatever else. Let the scrubs (those players with no desire to improve) complain about "spam" or "cheapness." Here, we're all trying to have fun through self improvement.

I have been a zoner my entire life. I was playing Guile when I was 10 years old, and I'm still playing Guile now at over 30. I play a zoning MVC team. I play Peacock in Skullgirls. Etc etc. Deathstroke is a very entertaining zoning character thanks to the versatility of his up-close game and the availability of the universal armor options in this game.
 

Crathen

Death is my business
Are you sure about this? I just did some blockstring testing. I set Flash to reversal with flying uppercut (fastest special in the game as far as I know) and he was not able to punish B1 nor B1U2.

In fact, in the corner, he WAS able to counter D1, Sword Spin. Midscreen he couldnt though. What are you using to punish this? Paired with the huge pushback of this string on block, I don't think I see what you're getting at here.
I tested just now , you're right , must have dreamed about that or played prepatch ( if it was any different ) , my bad.

Carry on.
 
I had no interest in DS in the first place. He didn't look fun at all with his reveal last year. I'm more into interesting characters such as WW and NW who have stance changes. I thought sinestro would be an interesting characters but found him just as bland as DS. (Not that I have played DS) the zoning or keep-away tactics are boring.