Mortal Kombat (2011) Matchup Chart

[THTB]

Why the hell did I forget about Thomahawk and D.R.? >_>

 

[doomfarmer]

I play a little Noob. :bigsmile:

I think your Noob combos were my favorite part about that test your might community project video. You need to make your own Noob vid.

 

[D. R.]

I think your Noob combos were my favorite part about that test your might community project video. You need to make your own Noob vid.

Thanks man! I was just trying to showcase some of Noob's untapped potential for the masses. I'm probably gonna make a combo vid in due time with Noob. With the exception of a couple bad match ups, Noob is a very solid character. :evil:

 

[DanCock]

heres my updated list, i know no one followed my list last time but ehh i figured i share anyway.

Sindel VS :sindel:

vs Kung Lao 2-8 ****
vs Reptile 3-7
vs Raiden 3-7
vs Smoke 3-7 ****
vs Cyrax 3-7
vs ermac 4-6
vs Kitana 4-6
vs johnny Cage 4-6
vs Liu Kang 4-6
vs Mileena 4-6
vs Nightwolf 4-6
vs Kano 4-6
vs Skarlett 4-6
vs Cybersubzero 4-6
vs Kabal 4-6
vs rain 4-6 ****
vs Sektor 4-6 ****

vs Kenshi 5-5
vs Shang Tsung 5-5
vs Quan Chi 5-5
vs Scorpion 5-5
vs Subzero 5-5
vs Sindel 5-5
vs Jade 5-5
vs Noob 5-5
vs Sonya 6-4
vs Jax 6-4
vs Stryker 6-4
vs Baraka 6-4
vs Sheeva 6-4

 

[RWDY Nori]

Dancock: Why do you feel vs Kenshi is even? I also don't think NW beats Sindel, I think that's even

Also, your sig is pretty sick

 

[DanCock]

Dancock: Why do you feel vs Kenshi is even? I also don't think NW beats Sindel, I think that's even

Also, your sig is pretty sick

every character that has frame traps upclose like nightwolfs f+3 stuff owns her. say if she goes into a counter, her foe can just low poke or cross up her and knock her out of her attacks. the match up will change once she gets her armor attack.


vs kenshi she can out zone him Flight into IAF comes out faster then most of his moves and yea he can reflect but she can bait out reflect with 3 Flight~IAFS then do the 1 Flight~IAF to counter while hes in reflect recovery.. he has the same problems as she does upclose the low pokes and cross ups, however he has the armor specials to deal with that shit atm she doesnt. i think its a fun even match up.

 

[RWDY Nori]

vs kenshi she can out zone him Flight into IAF comes out faster then most of his moves and yea he can reflect but she can bait out reflect with 3 Flight~IAFS then do the 1 Flight~IAF to counter while hes in reflect recovery.. he has the same problems as she does upclose the low pokes and cross ups, however he has the armor specials to deal with that shit atm she doesnt.

Kenshi is actually very good up close, a lot of people do not realize this. He has a low starter into a combo and a safe FAST overhead that is +2 on block. He has a great 2, 1 string that ends in a SAFE mid or low that is plus on hit.

If NW's F3 abuse is the reason he wins this fight vs Sindel, then Kenshi should be 6-4 also

 

[DanCock]

Kenshi is actually very good up close, a lot of people do not realize this. He has a low starter into a combo and a safe FAST overhead that is +2 on block. He has a great 2, 1 string that ends in a SAFE mid or low that is plus on hit.

If NW's F3 abuse is the reason he wins this fight vs Sindel, then Kenshi should be 6-4 also

make it 6-4 i dont care LOL the worse sindel looks the better i look..

 

[RWDY Nori]

make it 6-4 i dont care LOL the worse sindel looks the better i look..

I don't think anybody is doubting your skill level w/Sindel, we're just talking tools and matchups

 

[DanCock]

I don't think anybody is doubting your skill level w/Sindel, we're just talking tools and matchups

my skill level is shit actually lol.. im just going by what i see in the character thats how i made my list not by some ones skill level..

if it was skill level then my sindel vs reos every character would be a 2-8 in reos favor..

 

[THTB]

We only have a few more matchups to actually fill in...we need people with numbers ready! >_<

 

[DaeDraug]

My take on Noob's matchups:

Baraka 7
Cyber Sub 4
Cyrax 5
Ermac 6
Jade 5
Jax 6
Johnny Cage 4
Kabal 4
Kano 5
Kenshi 5
Kitana 3
Kung Lao 4
Liu Kang 7
Mileena 4
Nightwolf 4
Quan Chi 6
Raiden 3
Reptile 4
Scorpion 5
Sektor 4
Shang Tsung 5
Sheeva 7
Sindel 4
Smoke 3
Sonya 6
Stryker 6
Sub-Zero 5

I don't care if it will change anything. Just wanted to share my opinion.

 

[TheChad_87]

Sheeva Numbers:
v Scorpion: 4-6 His teleport keeps her from safely following up Jump Stomp with her BnB like she can against other members of the cast. His mix-up options also make it harder for her to block and punish like she can against other members of the cast. This is not as hard as the Mileena match-up, but it's an uphill battle. She can actually zone somewhat effectively with her Fireball in this match-up. She also punishes his high-risk playstyle quite nicely.

v Sektor: 3-7 Up-Missile makes Jump Stomp a non-option in this match-up. His flamethrower negates the reach she can get from using her 3, 3 combo starter. And all of his attacks are faster (We don't have Sektor frame data yet, so I can't say how much faster, but he always seems to beat her out up close). He can also pretty much lock her down on the other side of the screen with Missile. (Obv, she can dash block in, but he can also step back and keep doing it). It's not impossible if she does get in, though. Obviously, she hits hard up close, but getting there is about as hard with Sektor as it is with Shang Tsung.

v Sonya: 3-7. Sonya's fast and Air Drop shenanigans into the 50/50 are brutal. The only thing that makes it not so bad is that Sonya lacks a low combo starter. But she can always Military Stance, F+1 to hit low. Now, Sheeva has to respect that as well as an overhead from Military Stance, Throw. This works against everyone, obviously, but Sheeva feels the repercussions of it harder as she's so much slower than the rest of the cast, she can't really stop Sonya from keeping pressure up even after one of the Military Stance mix-ups like many others can. Sonya's D+4 also trumps Sheeva's D+3, which she can spam against many characters to get them to crouch for a Low Grab. Sonya also has lightning fast recovery on Energy Ring making it impossible fore Sheeva to zone her out. I'd say this match is just as hard as the Mileena one.

I edited this into a former post, but it may have been missed. I know you'd prefer data from Devil Digimon, which is fine; but as I stated before, I'm currently hold the Best Sheeva title of the GameFAQs board (lol- for what that's worth), and I've played several games with Dig on his late night streams. Obviously, his data would be better than mine, but there aren't many people playing Sheeva competitively, so I may be the next best thing ^_^

 

[Konqrr]

The list seems to be heading in this direction:

01. Raiden
02. Kung Lao
03. Reptile
04. Kitana
05. Kabal
06. Cyrax
07. Cyber Sub-Zero
08. Johnny Cage
09. Sub-Zero
10. Nightwolf
11. Kano
12. Mileena
13. Noob Saibot
14. Smoke
15. Jade
16. Sektor
17. Shang Tsung
18. Liu Kang
19. Scorpion
20. Ermac
21. Kurtis Stryker
22. Sonya Blade
23. Sindel
24. Jax
25. Baraka
26. Quan Chi
27. Sheeva

 

[DamagePoints]

everyone has raiden so high. I never see anyone dominate with him in tourneys tho. is there a reason for
this or are we over rating this character. also once the new patch comes out sub will most likely
rise because his super armor slide will help his bad matchups.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

The list seems to be heading in this direction:

01. Raiden
02. Kung Lao
03. Reptile
04. Kitana
05. Kabal
06. Cyrax
07. Cyber Sub-Zero
08. Johnny Cage
09. Sub-Zero
10. Nightwolf
11. Kano
12. Mileena
13. Noob Saibot
14. Smoke
15. Jade
16. Sektor
17. Shang Tsung
18. Liu Kang
19. Scorpion
20. Ermac
21. Kurtis Stryker
22. Sonya Blade
23. Sindel
24. Jax
25. Baraka
26. Quan Chi
27. Sheeva

I can live with this list, my only personal notes would have reptile a little lower but thats based on characters i use and their matchups against him.

As far as integrating DLC into this list I personally feel the following currently:

Kenshi should fit around 16-20 (great zoning and damage but is big bowl of fail on rush down due to lack of viable wakeup on pressure or crossups.....plus he's blind)

Skarlet i see her fitting around 6-8 but i have no concrete reasons why other than her damage, speed, sareena like knives, dash cancels into mixups, viable wakeups and can control air and speed of match with anyone.

Rain (recently picked him up) I really don't know about Rain yet but early indications make me want to put him around 8-10.

Rain and skarlet are so interesting to me because it seems they are giving every tool in the game to succeed. I dont like his ground speed first off.

however, Where Rain lacks in Zoning and speed he makes up in damage and I actually like his mix ups and pressure game. His pokes are avg or below but his combos and damage are limitless. b2 3 is about a 10% guarenteed mix up because everyone fears b2 1+2. Gypsy kick is like a new upball but better and ex has armor. He can get 40% no meter easily. He seems Extreme risk extreme reward type of character who thrives off meter. Like i said i just picked him up as an alternate main (testing as an alternate) so ill update as I go with his matchups.

 

[RWDY Nori]

Kenshi should fit around 16-20 (great zoning and damage but is big bowl of fail on rush down due to lack of viable wakeup on pressure or crossups.....plus he's blind)

Kenshi's fast overhead, B2, is +2 on block. He has fast low combo starter and a fast mid combo starter, that's safe, in 2, 1, B2. A LOT of people seem to overlook his upclose game, when in reality, it's very strong

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Kenshi's fast overhead, B2, is +2 on block. He has fast low combo starter and a fast mid combo starter, that's safe, in 2, 1, B2. A LOT of people seem to overlook his upclose game, when in reality, it's very strong

Oh i completely agree but i actually meant against the rush he gets lit up and has no wake up that removes cross up pressure

 

[RWDY Nori]

Oh i completely agree but i actually meant against the rush he gets lit up and has no wake up that removes cross up pressure

My fault, I misunderstood then. Yes, he gets crushed by the crossup, but I would put him as top 10 personally (hell you can argue a lot of chars top 10)


IMO about Raiden, overrated. JOP is the only guy out of 500 to crack top 8 and a lot of his wins came from Cage (not a reflection on JOP by any means, it's a reflection that Raiden has to work much harder than people realize). I don't even see Raiden in the top 5

 

[RWDY Nori]

20. Ermac
21. Kurtis Stryker
22. Sonya Blade

This just cannot be right. I can't see Stryker in the same class as Sonya and Ermac

 

[TheChad_87]

There was also only one Kung Lao in the top 8 ... That's not the best argument. Also, his Cage is better than his Raiden. That's obvious just from watching the videos. I just don't think anyone actually mains Raiden ... -_-

 

[THTB]

I just realized...why the hell are Kang's numbers so low? >_>

 

[TheChad_87]

I just realized...why the hell are Kang's numbers so low? >_>

He doesn't really excel at anything. He's good at zoning. He's got some beastly mix-up juggles up close, and his EN attacks have armor, but for some reason it all seems to fall short. It's like no matter who he is fighting against, they have him beat at whatever it is that character excels at. It's almost like he's trying to do too many things at once and doing decent enough at each thing, but I'm not so sure the sum of the parts is greater than the whole of other characters.

I think he's gonna end up being lower A Tier (If you call the top tier S, despite no one being ridic OP) when all is said and done because he's a great character, but pretty much all of them are great characters except Sheeva =-(

Just my opinion, of course.

 

[THTB]

I'm pretty sure he doesn't lose as many matchups as the list implies. 4-6 vs Ermac?

 

[TheChad_87]

*Looks at Chart*

Nah. I'd say his Cyrax Match-up is 5-5 as well. Liu kang is pretty good at getting Cyrax in the corner with an EN Flying Kick on reaction to a naked Net if he tries to get cute, and Cyrax pretty much falls apart in the corner. He also has great pressure up-close and Cyrax has no armored attacks.

I have no experience with Ermac, so I can't say about that one at all. I dunno about the Smoke match-up either, but I fail to see why it's not a 5-5.

All the other lower numbers look about right. Shang might be a 4-6. Kang has a hard time getting in, but once he does, Shang is fucked.