D4Cast Episode 7- Tier List Discussion ft. Tom Brady + M2Dave

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Stream might be on a different URL tonight. Stay tuned for details.

 

[Mr. Mileena]

New Channel http://www.twitch.tv/downfourcast

 

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The URL for today's show is http://www.twitch.tv/downfourcast

 

[Death]

I see why CDjr and CD put Kitana at number 2.

I feel bad for downplaying her, to hell with what everyone thinks lol.

Kitana number 2 no way. I think you are right about her placing.

 

[Mr. Mileena]

Kitana number 2 no way. I think you are right about her placing.

I need to talk to you soon lol

 

[Death]

I need to talk to you soon lol

sounds good man. just pm me.

 

[Mr. Mileena]

sounds good man. just pm me.

yeah, make sure to tune in, thanks!

 

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Show is live now! http://www.twitch.tv/downfourcast

 

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Mr. Arturo Sabin Sanchez is coming on soon to talk about MK stuff and MLG! You guys better be watching!

 

[AK BeerGuyEd]

I think you guys should talk about UMK3 Kara and Glitch Jabs for at least an hour.

 

[Saint]

Seeing this picture it made me wonder something, when you guys go down to the DLC characters do you have 4 slots to scroll through or does all 4 characters+kratos show?

The reason I'm asking is I think before I removed my game data and re-installed it I think all 5 showed, now I have to scroll through though.

Hope that made any sense lol

 

[Sabin]

Thanks again for having me on guys

 

[Prinz]

Talking about Freddy Krueger as a legit Mortal Kombat universe character lol So unusual.

 

[ragnar0kz28]

where is the video of tombrady saying FISH to baraka and jade? for real it was so funny

 

[ragnar0kz28]

I see why CDjr and CD put Kitana at number 2.

I feel bad for downplaying her, to hell with what everyone thinks lol.

ok ok ok What did I miss why is she 2 tell tell I couldnt tune in

 

[Prinz]

Tom Brady you are full of shit. It looks like you stigmatized Jade as a "fish" character (which translates as shit when you're talking). And it looks like you don't have your own opinion on her. "She's bad because the community agrees" or "She's fish because she's not been in top 8". What the hell? I agree she might be low-mid, but no way is she "fish". Your knowledge of her options are lacking.

 

[Espio]

Tom Brady you are full of shit. It looks like you stigmatized Jade as a "fish" character (which translates as shit when you're talking). And it looks like you don't have your own opinion on her. "She's bad because the community agrees" or "She's fish because she's not been in top 8". What the hell? I agree she might be low-mid, but no way is she "fish". Your knowledge of her options are lacking.

Prinz man, chill. These match up charts vary based on who crafts them, no need to be upset, if you believe Jade is good, she's good.

Don't get personal about it either, Tom was crafting his chart based on the community, you'll notice Jade has moved up to B tier alongside Stryker, CSZ, and Sindel in the current list, he edited it after several players, including Jade players voiced her being better than her previous position suggested and she's now at a place that I agree with currently.


Edit: Even if she was considered bottom tier man, who cares? We've been playing her forever even when everyone thought she was worst in the game anyway. Disagree and move on, don't be upset.

 

[Prinz]

Prinz man, chill. These match up charts vary based on who crafts them, no need to be upset, if you believe Jade is good, she's good.

Don't get personal about it either, Tom was crafting his chart based on the community, you'll notice Jade has moved up to B tier alongside Stryker, CSZ, and Sindel in the current list, he edited it after several players, including Jade players voiced her being better than worst in the game.

Man, I don't care about charts, you know that, but I care about opinions that make them. I want to know what makes my character better/worse in a certain match-up, and he doesn't, he just places the character in a group and says "In every game there's a Jade and Jade players that will always this and always that blah blah FISH". Whatever. I just wanted to emphasize that he doesn't know Jade.

 

[ragnar0kz28]

every single one of them FISH!!!

 

[gdf]

Thanks for getting on and talking Sabin. It was cool to know that MLG loves MK.

 

[Mr. Mileena]

Man, I don't care about charts, you know that, but I care about opinions that make them. I want to know what makes my character better/worse in a certain match-up, and he doesn't, he just places the character in a group and says "In every game there's a Jade and Jade players that will always this and always that blah blah FISH". Whatever. I just wanted to emphasize that he doesn't know Jade.

Jade is good, and underrated. She will never win anything by herself. She is bottom 10 imo.

 

[Espio]

Man, I don't care about charts, you know that, but I care about opinions that make them. I want to know what makes my character better/worse in a certain match-up, and he doesn't, he just places the character in a group and says "In every game there's a Jade and Jade players that will always this and always that blah blah FISH". Whatever. I just wanted to emphasize that he doesn't know Jade.

Well there's nothing wrong with wanting more in depth clarification, I can respect that fully. I just think getting annoyed isn't worth it.

I know you've never been tier list happy, you've played Jade forever, despite people saying she's worst in the game without dropping her or anything like that.

Jade is good, and underrated. She will never win anything by herself. She is bottom 10 imo.

Never gives the implication that it's impossible and that isn't the case with any character, sure she has to work harder than Kitana, Kabal, Sektor, Raiden and others, but it's not imposible, it has been done before with low tier characters in other games even very unbalanced ones and I don't see why it can't be done in this game, despite it not being super balanced.

 

[Mr. Mileena]

Well there's nothing wrong with wanting more in depth clarification, I can respect that fully. I just think getting annoyed isn't worth it.

I know you've never been tier list happy, you've played Jade forever, despite people saying she's worst in the game without dropping her or anything like that.




Never gives the implication that it's impossible and that isn't the case with any character, sure she has to work harder than Kitana, Kabal, Sektor, Raiden and others, but it's not imposible, it has been done before with low tier characters in other games even very unbalanced ones and I don't see why it can't be done in this game, despite it not being super balanced.

It won't happen lol.
She's good, but not good to win by herself

 

[Espio]

It won't happen lol.
She's good, but not good to win by herself

When it becomes impossible then people can say it won't happen.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

 

[Glass Sword]

Just finished listening to the D4 Cast after getting back from the UFGT. First off I want to say good stuff to Tom Brady for making the most accurate community tier list to date. Second off props for GamerBlake90 for being a good host and the voice of moderation of the show.
Overall it almost felt like the show sabotaged itself. From what my point of view Tom Brady was trying to have a reasonable argument with REO, but every time REO responded it came off as angry as if he had some sort of grudge against Tom Brady for having a different opinion than him. Besides the time Tom was having an argument with the stream chat he came off as the more reasonable party.
Every time the two get in a podcast together the two are at each others throats and it needs to stop. If they really are friends they need to be a little more civil during these podcast instead of sounding like two pundits on the news arguing about a popular issue