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Official Pre-EVO 2012 Mortal Kombat Tier List

AK Vip3r

Ghost of Vip3r
i think cyrax and kitana are gonna be shown to each have quite a few bad matchups, and i think liu kang will be shown to have not as many bad matchups as people think, and i think someone will show how broken freddy and skarlet can be and how jax actually struggles against a few characters,
i think kenshi is broken and eventually people will show that his only bad matchup is kabal, then maybe smoke and noob saibot, not kung lao and he pretty much destroys most of the cast... i also think kung laos offense is overrated, but the list is still damn good.
Nope, freddy is absolutely horrendous in this game.
 

Hitoshura

Head Cage
There's no such thing as S+ or S-.

'S' is used specifically in a tier list of letters to denote 'God tier' or a tier of over-powered broken characters that others can't reasonably compete with.

Rarely someone might use SS to denote a character above that which is past broken into having programming flaws that make it instantly ban-worthy but there is nothing like that in MK9. And there probably never will be again in modern gaming for any length of time due to patching and updating etc.
There is such a thing called "S+" but its only been in a few games. The title "S+" represents Super God Tier LOL

Games that used S+ to my knowledge were JoJo's Bizarre adventure which Petshop was S+ b/c he had 9-1's and 10-0's across the board. He had 1 bad mu and tht was a 7-3 and it was still in his favor. Petshop became banned b/c of it. Same goes for Robo Ky in Guilty Gear XX. He was so stupid good that he was banned.
 

jokey77

Character Loyalist
best: Kabal, Sonya, Freddy, Kung Lao
worst: Kano, Stryker, Sheeva, Baraka

Skarlet: I don't get all the hype. she is all about chip-damage, isn't she?
 
There is such a thing called "S+" but its only been in a few games. The title "S+" represents Super God Tier LOL

Games that used S+ to my knowledge were JoJo's Bizarre adventure which Petshop was S+ b/c he had 9-1's and 10-0's across the board. He had 1 bad mu and tht was a 7-3 and it was still in his favor. Petshop became banned b/c of it. Same goes for Robo Ky in Guilty Gear XX. He was so stupid good that he was banned.
This ain't Brawl. And Kabal ain't Metaknight. All I have to say about Kabal being S+. lol
 
There is such a thing called "S+" but its only been in a few games. The title "S+" represents Super God Tier LOL

Games that used S+ to my knowledge were JoJo's Bizarre adventure which Petshop was S+ b/c he had 9-1's and 10-0's across the board. He had 1 bad mu and tht was a 7-3 and it was still in his favor. Petshop became banned b/c of it. Same goes for Robo Ky in Guilty Gear XX. He was so stupid good that he was banned.
kabal is S+ imo
 

Hitoshura

Head Cage
This ain't Brawl. And Kabal ain't Metaknight. All I have to say about Kabal being S+. lol
What I was getting at is that there is no way there is anyone that is S+ in this game. At least not yet b/c it TO early to tell.

This game is kinda similar to Smash though...I mean there is p1 priority.

kabal is S+ imo
How is he S+ when he has bad matches or characters that cripple him. If he was S+ he wouldn't have such characters like Jax and Sektor give him problems.
 

Z-911-Z

Bone and Metal
Wasn't Robo-Ky banned because he was console-exclusive? I know Justice and Kliff were insanely good as well in vanilla console GGXX.
 

Scoot Magee

But I didn't want to dash
This is what a tier list should look like. Just like it's done in other games. Wait I thought sektor was higher? Reo pls
 

rev0lver

Come On Die Young
I'd like to know who the people who say Skarlet is overrated have played against offline to get the opinion that she's overrated?

I haven't seen a single person play her anywhere near her potential (me included), which is what makes me curious.

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Ever since I played Detroit's Skarlet back at NEC I knew she was a really good character. He's honestly the best Skarlet I've seen, and he's not even known for her. That being said, there's no way she's top 5.
 

M2Dave

Zoning Master
Old Skarlet was a top 3 character. Current Skarlet is most likely a high mid tier character.

It is absurd to see people placing her in Kabal's tier and saying she has very good zoning. Stop being fools. No one has done anything with this character in a tournament yet, and she was the first DLC to be released. At least wait until someone places high with her, so you have some proof at least.
 

rev0lver

Come On Die Young
The fact that people still think Kitana is on Kabal's level doesn't surprise me tbh, even though it's wrong. I still get away with a shitload of easily countered things even against good players.
 

NariTuba

disMember
I disagree with all three comments.

On paper, Rain is so god like. Safe armor that leads into combo and reset pressure instantly makes a character not only tournament viable, but tournament winnable. His footsies are also arguably one of, if not the best in the game. People think that Kitana and Sektor are top tier footsie characters, take a look at Rain.
The case could be made for Rain being in the upper echleons, I dont know if he's better than Sektor I guess so Ill leave this one with a question mark like Skarlet.

Raiden was overated by PL, but that doesn't stop Raiden from being one of the only characters in the game who makes every character not do what they want to do.
He does dictate pace, but his problem is that this game he sucks you into is not really overwhelming. He stops you from applying plan A but the game he forces you to play is still an even game. He forces you to stay defensive but he doesnt have great tools to put you under pressure... especially if he doesnt have the lifelead.

Imho Sektor is better because of how many different tools he has.

I don't understand how people don't think Reptile is an A tier character... there are tons of Reptile players out there proving this on a daily basis. Sub Zero was also dramatically underplayed by Brady, and people took his word for it. This character can and should be winning tournaments.
I think Reptile is a great character, I just think Sektor is better. Better zoning, better anti zoning and better footsies.

Cyrax well... he's Cyrax. There's really three great playstyles out there for this character - when combined I can't image what kind of beast you would have. Maxter's, Noobe's, and Mustard's.
Again, Sektor has better zoning, better antizoning and better footsies. Cyrax' high damage is not enough to make up and be better than Sektor.

I think Kitana is a great character, but despite nurfs, Lao still has the best mobility in the game. And behind a player who makes near flawless reads, he is almost impossible to beat on paper.
KL and Kitana are pretty close to eachother. Id give the edge to Kitana because she is safer. The near flawless reads argument can be made for anyone in the cast.

For the record, just debating here... I dont mean to imply I know better, just leaving my 2 cents
 
IMO Kitana is easily S, she is too good.
Mileena and Sektor should be "promoted" as well.
kitana potentially has problems with =
kabal, reptile, liu kang, kenshi, freddy(?), raiden, noob smoke, i could see her having issues with sektor and mileena also

she has a lot of potential bad matchups


Old Skarlet was a top 3 character. Current Skarlet is most likely a high mid tier character.

It is absurd to see people placing her in Kabal's tier and saying she has very good zoning. Stop being fools. No one has done anything with this character in a tournament yet, and she was the first DLC to be released. At least wait until someone places high with her, so you have some proof at least.
skarlet has pretty nutty pressure once she gets going however i think her zoning is a bit overrated because she can be traded with and as far as getting in her best option is armored dash, as soon as she hits you shes beastly though
 

sub_on_dubs

Online Scrub Lord
What has Kung Lao done since Evo? Has he won any tournaments or even placed high? Last time I saw Kung Lao played was at MLG Columbus and he got blown up. Where is the evidence to say he's top 5?
 

sub_on_dubs

Online Scrub Lord
Sektor players still underrating their character. Didn't he just win two tournaments on the same weekend?
 

Matix218

Get over here!
What has Kung Lao done since Evo? Has he won any tournaments or even placed high? Last time I saw Kung Lao played was at MLG Columbus and he got blown up. Where is the evidence to say he's top 5?
I think that mk legend kid has been doing well with him lately
 
In the end, Character loyalty is what winds up winning anyway.
This couldn't be further from the truth LMFAO. Especially amongst high level players in most fighting games.

You folks can flame me all you want, but remember this simply my opinion:

S+ : Kabal
S : Kitana, Lao, Cage, Cyrax
A+ : Sektor, Smoke, Jax, Sonya, Mileena, Raiden (this tier and upward is my top chars in the game)

A - C: Subz, Freddy, Reptile, Skarlet, Scorpion, Kang, Rain
Ermac, Quan, Nightwolf, Shang, CSZ, Kano, Sindel, Jade, Noob, Kenshi, Stryker, Baraka

(it's really hard to fit these characters in their separate tiers IMO, cause this game is way too match up heavy...and at high level any of these characters can win pending who they're up against, I suppose characters with low damage output may have to struggle a bit vs. a more simplistic character that can deal more damage. but the characters with the low damage output has zoning tools and used at high level would be a problem)

D : Sheeva

(based simply on character design. biggest standing hit box character in the game, biggest hit box for juggling, slowest character in the game. Sheeva does has zoning and pressure tools and crouch throw set ups, but when played vs. players who know the match up...the opponent will know when to duck/tech crouch sheeva's pressure....stand block/fuzzy guard her fireball...use normals, use special moves, use armored moves, and/or dash out of her teleport stomp midscreen. in the corner Sheeva's teleport stomp mixup is nice. at mid range Sheeva's fireball and ground stomp can be jumped/teleport attacked on reaction. and when Sheeva is pressured...because of her hit box...Sheeva has to block vs opponents at a greater range then most and that's simply hard to deal with vs. characters like Cage, Lao, Kabal and Sonya...because Sheeva has very slow standing normals to maximize punishment. Sheeva is a character that can deal decent damage, but it's not overwhelming since it's very situational and DOES require meter to dish out more than 50%. most characters can dish out the same damage and doesn't need either for it to be situational or require meter or both. Sheeva really needs help. and if more people played her at high level vs. other players at high level with their higher tiered characters...you'd know that is 100% fact)

And if I honestly had to separate tiers A - C, it'd look like this:

S+ : Kabal
S : Kitana, Lao, Cage, Cyrax
A+ : Sektor, Smoke, Jax, Sonya, Mileena, Raiden
A : Subz, Freddy
B+ : Reptile, Skarlet, Scorpion, Kang, Rain
B : Ermac, Quan
C+ : Nightwolf, Shang, CSZ, Kano, Kenshi
C : Sindel, Jade, Noob, Stryker, Baraka
D : Sheeva
 

Konqrr

MK11 Kabal = MK9 Kitana
REO... with all of your trolling, it is kind of surprising how much I agree with this list. Actually, I agree 100%. Noob and Kano are shit lol
 

derOeler

Death comes to all!
Agreed with the two exceptions of:

Sektor should be higher.

Kitana up, LAO DOWN.
Why? Whats are his bad match ups (besides JC, Sonya and Jax being all 4.5/5.5s)?
He is the bain of the DLCs (and Cyrax, what i like the most) and has all tools you need. With good reads and patience he can compete with the hole rooster.