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Human Cyrax Unbreakable (discussion, no video)

NYCj360

i Use a modded cyber now
Now i know im opening myself up to some scrutiny here but im opening this thread to get everyones honest opinion on his Unbreakable combo. This combo that im referring to is not a reset, nor an exploit. It requires 2 meters and guarantees 50% damage no matter how many meters you have.

Lets say the resets get removed and he no longer has this exploit of guaranteed damage resets into 80% for 1 meter and 93% for 2. He still has his command grab mixup, 60% 1 meter combos, 72% 3 meter combo mid screen and awesome corner pressure. He still has this combo where he gets rid of 2 meters for your 2 meters in order to continue comboing you. The way the combo works is that if you try to break the uppercut you get launched by the bomb under you back into a combo.

I dont think that this can be changed due to the fact that NRS would have to change the way an air breaker works or add invincibility frames on landing which might effect several other dimensions of the game. No other character so far has a way to set this up to happen so i know this will upset many people. My question to TYM is once he has his resets removed, will he still be considered over powered for this one game closing combo?

I ask this because i would finally like to use Cyrax and all his tools without the complaining. As a tournament player i tend to use everything available to me, and if this is available i will still use it, i just dont like the ridicule that comes along with it.
 

NYCj360

i Use a modded cyber now
i see any issues with a 2 bar unbreakable 50%, its a heavy price to pay for the cyrax player.
Agreed, its situational and i mainly use it to close out rounds, but ive received complaints for using it before. This is why i ask.
 

PND_Mustard

"More stealthful than the night"
Premium Supporter
Agreed, its situational and i mainly use it to close out rounds, but ive received complaints for using it before. This is why i ask.
does it come up at the side with '# hits #percent'?
 

PND OmegaK

Drunk and Orderly
It's disgusting, but everyone has their dirt in this game. Resets are a bit too much imo (I'd still use them if I played him).
 

NYCj360

i Use a modded cyber now
does it come up at the side with '# hits #percent'?
It doesnt show how much it takes before the breaker, but all hits that are after they breaker do have the amount of hits and percentage of damage. And the damage is still scaled.
 

Z-911-Z

Bone and Metal
I'm a Cyblax player looking forward to the resets being removed, I'd like to see more players outside of myself exploring the vast array of abilities this character has than just fishing for the 80% reset combo and throwing bombs everywhere. However Cyrax does so much damage even without resets that people will be complaining, I feel even if the damage scaling is increased off ex bomb there will still be complaining. It kinda sucks too, because Cyrax is always a hate magnet even for non-reset stuff.

Honestly though, it really is a net and a dream at times. Cyrax is just a person you can't even make one mistake against at times or it's goodbye half your health. In other words, Cyrax and Cyblax will both still be the characters with the greatest comeback potential and will still be high tier. He doesn't need it!
 

NYCj360

i Use a modded cyber now
I'm a Cyblax player looking forward to the resets being removed, I'd like to see more players outside of myself exploring the vast array of abilities this character has than just fishing for the 80% reset combo and throwing bombs everywhere. However Cyrax does so much damage even without resets that people will be complaining, I feel even if the damage scaling is increased off ex bomb there will still be complaining. It kinda sucks too, because Cyrax is always a hate magnet even for non-reset stuff.

Honestly though, it really is a net and a dream at times. Cyrax is just a person you can't even make one mistake against at times or it's goodbye half your health. In other words, Cyrax and Cyblax will both still be the characters with the greatest comeback potential and will still be high tier. He doesn't need it!
Most of my matches with cyblax involve me winning off of AA s1 and teleports. I rarely go for the reset, i still do it but i fish for any hit i can get.
 

Z-911-Z

Bone and Metal
Most of my matches with cyblax involve me winning off of AA s1 and teleports. I rarely go for the reset, i still do it but i fish for any hit i can get.
It's funny actually for me, I tend to get caught up in the match and forget about my 55-60% combo off of a hit-confirmed string with a net and end up beating people with pure rushdown. Damn, I love those low pokes.
 

CYracks

Command Grabber
Command grab>All. Now that I've started using this mix-up all the time Cyrax feels even dirtier. Also using down 3 into rag-doll or chest-saw is great. I don't use resets so people don't feel too bad
 

Zwooosh

Worst Lao Ever.
People will always have something to complain about any character with a bit of dirt. Cyrax's dirt just happens to be big unbreakable damage. The less you draw attention to things the less those people who can't have an opinion for themselves will complain. Just look at the whole input bug thing, when brady didn't shut up about it people always brought it up but as soon as he stopped the drama over it died.
 

GNG Iniquity

#bufftaquito #punchwalk #whiffycage
My views on all of this have really changed dramatically after playing Quan. It's two bars and it's totally situational. I don't think it's overpowered; it's fine imo
 

Prinz

watch?v=a8PEVV6tt14
My views on all of this have really changed dramatically after playing Quan. It's two bars and it's totally situational. I don't think it's overpowered; it's fine imo
Quan's guaranteed damage on block is an complete BS.
 

Prinz

watch?v=a8PEVV6tt14
Everyone's got their BS though. JC's +5 advantage off a f33b3 or f33 EX FB is just as bad imo. You've got no choice but to allow him to build additional meter to let him do it again outside of being kneed in the face and punched in the balls.
Yeah, they do. Anyway, the unbreakable combo is cool, what was it 50% 2 meters?
 
Personally, I feel like the amount of unbreakerable damage that Shang Tsung and Kitana can (and will) do to you is worse than Cyrax's dirt. Cyrax has the option to do unbreakerable damadge, but Shang Tsung's and Kitana's games revolve around it practically.

But what fun would this game be if everyone played fair?
 

GNG Iniquity

#bufftaquito #punchwalk #whiffycage
Personally, I feel like the amount of unbreakerable damage that Shang Tsung and Kitana can (and will) do to you is worse than Cyrax's dirt. Cyrax has the option to do unbreakerable damadge, but Shang Tsung's and Kitana's games revolve around it practically.

But what fun would this game be if everyone played fair?
It's true though. I feel like a little girl now for all my melodramatic "this is unfair wahhhh" threads in the past. It makes this game exciting, sure...you're going to get blown up if you're unaware of this stuff but that's half the fun. I'd rather play a game that rewards those setups as opposed to how overly forgiving the majority of FGs are these days.
 

NYCj360

i Use a modded cyber now
Everyone's got their BS though. JC's +5 advantage off a f33b3 or f33 EX FB is just as bad imo. You've got no choice but to allow him to build additional meter to let him do it again outside of being kneed in the face and punched in the balls.
when i read this put in that way it had me loling really bad just now.
 

Lt. Boxy Angelman

I WILL EAT THIS GAME
Command grab>All. Now that I've started using this mix-up all the time Cyrax feels even dirtier. Also using down 3 into rag-doll or chest-saw is great. I don't use resets so people don't feel too bad
This. I've been milking the CG for all it's worth lately and had way higher success than fishing for explosions.