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wsj515

wsj515

This is my billionth life cycle.
Lt. Boxy Angelman said:
...No, we're not. Not with me. Not at all.
I am allergic to being lumped in with all the other sheepish fools that PL was getting mad about in the first place.

Sonicfox is, has always been, and will always be, ONE of the greatest individuals ever to compete in a video game, hands down and across the board.

With that being said, the level to which people have turned them into the Beyonce of the FGC (and I don't mean that as an insult, it feels really similar in my head) is ridiculous, where people fanboy to death over how there's no one you could ever put over them on the list of best ever to fight, in spite of the fact that Chris G and Justin Wong exist who are multi-game champions across space and time, including Capcom. To me, it is not about who's tried to cross over and failed from either side, but about the bare and simple fact that there are boxes others have checked that Fox has not that are more significant than the ones they have. It's just numbers for me, and all they need is ONE to put that entire argument behind them as the indisputable greatest fighting game player to ever live.

I still want to know the truth about Final Kombat Cyrax debacle. Fox could be the greatest human on Earth, and maybe they are, but there have been suspicious times, and no communication. That's just facts, and that's more an NRS problem for me. If you're really trying to stay on top forever, you're not turning down opportunities to win. I'm not even mad about it. But until there's ever any actual dialogue about it to make it clear that that wasn't as weird as it looked, it's always going to appear that way, especially when you're a studio whose famous for using trolls as an excuse to lead their community in the dark.

And for the record, I love that Sonic is who they are, because their fame and notoriety brought a lot of attention and good vibes to that entire community, and a whole bunch of people got to eat because of them.

:coffee: .
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There are boxes Sonic hasn't checked, but there are boxes the other greats haven't checked either. You want to talk facts? Here we go:

  • Sonic is the winningest in our scene
  • Putting anyone on a pedestal is stupid
  • Saying someone is a legit bad person because of their identity is stupid
  • Believing in some weird conspiracy that NRS props up Sonic is particularly stupid
 
Eldriken

Eldriken

Life was wasted on you.
Trickywizard said:
Players.
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What makes them "better players" than Fox? Because of what they do in their games that he cannot? Well, couldn't the same be said about them in the games Fox does well in such as Skullgirls and NRS games? That would make him a better player in that case, yes?
 
Trickywizard

Trickywizard

Apprentice
Eldriken said:
What makes them "better players" than Fox? Because of what they do in their games that he cannot? Well, couldn't the same be said about them in the games Fox does well in such as Skullgirls and NRS games? That would make him a better player in that case, yes?
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There’s way more high level players at the games they play, our games are kiddie level games.
 
Lt. Boxy Angelman

Lt. Boxy Angelman

I WILL EAT THIS GAME
wsj515 said:
There are boxes Sonic hasn't checked, but there are boxes the other greats haven't checked either. You want to talk facts? Here we go:

  • Sonic is the winningest in our scene
  • Putting anyone on a pedestal is stupid
  • Saying someone is a legit bad person because of their identity is stupid
  • Believing in some weird conspiracy that NRS props up Sonic is particularly stupid
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  1. In our scene? Yes, no question.
  2. In any capacity? Yes, even less question.
  3. In every capacity? Yes, not one fucking question.
  4. It will stop being a weird conspiracy theory when Sonic comes out and completely buries it with the anger of a thousand suns, and publically disavows the people at NRS whose silence allowed it to become a problem in the first place.
Just like a great deal of past and current players have sought, all I seek is transparency.
When I get it, I'll let it go.
Until I get it, there will never be a day that I won't want to keep digging.

I'm still waiting for answers for 2019 and not telling the world they lied to our faces about the competitive state MK11 would be released in.
 
Juggs

Juggs

Lose without excuses
Lead Moderator
ChrisG was also always an MK player. He was playing UMK3 with us back in 2010, entering the tournaments and even playing casuals. And that was before he was widely known in the FGC. Back at NECXI in 2010, at one of the more stacked UMK3 events, ChrisG was playing with us and like I said, played in the tournament as well. He ended up placing tied for 9th in the UMK3 tournament. He also played in the 3rd Strike tournament. I remember after the event, he came over all happy telling us he won the 3rd Strike event. Even though he was decent at UMK3, he wasn’t one of the top players at the time so it was kinda shocking to me that he won 3S. Again, this was before he had any FGC success. I should’ve known back then he’d go on to be a great FG player.

But yeah, he’s always also been an MK player. He like a lot of people just like fighting games ¯\(ツ)/¯
 
Juggs

Juggs

Lose without excuses
Lead Moderator
FrozenG3oX said:
Aris used to destroy everyone in Injustice 1. They nerfed Deathstroke and he quit playing.
I don't think it matters either way.
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Tbf, he said consistent success. Regardless, he’s right. Like I said earlier ITT, so many top players from other games have talked a bunch of shit about NRS games and players. Saying that the games are easy to play, win in, and that the players aren’t very good at fighting games. It’s not like this has happened only once. Anyway they’ll say this, try to play the new NRS game, won’t be able to immediately dominate, then will rage quit the game. And again like I said earlier, when they do quit, do they acknowledge that maybe the games aren’t as easy to win in as they thought and maybe the players are better than they gave them credit for? Of course not, they just say that the game is trash and that’s the only reason they quit. And will just trash the players and community even MORE than before, probably because of a bruised ego.

Now think about it, has a top NRS player ever said this about another game or community? That if they played it, it’d be easy and free money and that the players of that game aren’t actually any good? Again, of course not. There’s this weird mentality that if you’re good at Street Fighter or Tekken, that those are “REAL” fighting games, so being good at those games makes you a better FG player than if you’re good at other FG’s. This isn’t true. All it means is that you’re good at those respective games. Your skills likely WILL transfer over to other FG’s, but it doesn’t translate 1 to 1. Otherwise these players WOULD be able to dominate when they pick up NRS games or other FG’s.

The reality is, just about every FG is difficult to become good at. And yes, the more players a game has, logically the more difficult it is to become one of the best in or to place well consistently in. As more players leads to more competition. But it doesn’t mean it’s more difficult to become good at those games. In fact, the more competition a game has, the easier and quicker it is to become good. As you have plenty of competition, resources, a big community constantly figuring things out and evolving, etc. It also ties into my belief that top NRS players should share their knowledge and findings, aka their tech, more publicly than they do. As it’ll inevitably lead to more players being able to become good at the game, which is more competition. And as I said, the more competition you have the better it is for everyone
 
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FrozenG3oX

Kombatant
Juggs said:
Tbf, he said consistent success. Regardless, he’s right. Like I said earlier ITT, so many top players from other games have talked a bunch of shit about NRS games and players. Saying that the games are easy to play, win in, and that the players aren’t very good at fighting games. It’s not like this has happened only once. Anyway they’ll say this, try to play the new NRS game, won’t be able to immediately dominate, then will rage quit the game. And again like I said earlier, when they do quit, do they acknowledge that maybe the games aren’t as easy to win in as they thought and maybe the players are better than they gave them credit for? Of course not, they just say that the game is trash and that’s the only reason they quit. And will just trash the players and community even MORE than before, probably because of a bruised ego.

Now think about it, has a top NRS player ever said this about another game or community? That if they played it, it’d be easy and free money and that the players of that game aren’t actually any good? Again, of course not. There’s this weird mentality that if you’re good at Street Fighter or Tekken, that those are “REAL” fighting games, so being good at those games makes you a better FG player than if you’re good at other FG’s. This isn’t true. All it means is that you’re good at those respective games. Your skills likely WILL transfer over to other FG’s, but it doesn’t translate 1 to 1. Otherwise these players WOULD be able to dominate when they pick up NRS games or other FG’s.

The reality is, just about every FG is difficult to become good at. And yes, the more players a game has, logically the more difficult it is to become one of the best in or to place well consistently in. As more players leads to more competition. But it doesn’t mean it’s more difficult to become good at those games. In fact, the more competition a game has, the easier and quicker it is to become good. As you have plenty of competition, resources, a big community constantly figuring things out and evolving, etc. It also ties into my belief that top NRS players should share their knowledge and findings, aka their tech, more publicly than they do. As it’ll inevitably lead to more players being able to become good at the game, which is more competition. And as I said, the more competition you have the better it is for everyone
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I was just giving Aris as an example cause he was quite good at Mk 9 and Injustice 1.
 
Trickywizard

Trickywizard

Apprentice
Go play
KOF13 or UMVc3 and comeback and tell me those games are as easy as playing Cyrax, Havik, JC or even Lao in this game.
MK1 is easy mode.
 
Trickywizard

Trickywizard

Apprentice
Juggs said:
Tbf, he said consistent success. Regardless, he’s right. Like I said earlier ITT, so many top players from other games have talked a bunch of shit about NRS games and players. Saying that the games are easy to play, win in, and that the players aren’t very good at fighting games. It’s not like this has happened only once. Anyway they’ll say this, try to play the new NRS game, won’t be able to immediately dominate, then will rage quit the game. And again like I said earlier, when they do quit, do they acknowledge that maybe the games aren’t as easy to win in as they thought and maybe the players are better than they gave them credit for? Of course not, they just say that the game is trash and that’s the only reason they quit. And will just trash the players and community even MORE than before, probably because of a bruised ego.

Now think about it, has a top NRS player ever said this about another game or community? That if they played it, it’d be easy and free money and that the players of that game aren’t actually any good? Again, of course not. There’s this weird mentality that if you’re good at Street Fighter or Tekken, that those are “REAL” fighting games, so being good at those games makes you a better FG player than if you’re good at other FG’s. This isn’t true. All it means is that you’re good at those respective games. Your skills likely WILL transfer over to other FG’s, but it doesn’t translate 1 to 1. Otherwise these players WOULD be able to dominate when they pick up NRS games or other FG’s.

The reality is, just about every FG is difficult to become good at. And yes, the more players a game has, logically the more difficult it is to become one of the best in or to place well consistently in. As more players leads to more competition. But it doesn’t mean it’s more difficult to become good at those games. In fact, the more competition a game has, the easier and quicker it is to become good. As you have plenty of competition, resources, a big community constantly figuring things out and evolving, etc. It also ties into my belief that top NRS players should share their knowledge and findings, aka their tech, more publicly than they do. As it’ll inevitably lead to more players being able to become good at the game, which is more competition. And as I said, the more competition you have the better it is for everyone
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99% of the FGC don’t talk about NRs games like that; it’s just a few bad apples. Most top players of other FGC are very profesional and respectful imo.
 
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FrozenG3oX

Kombatant
Honest talk here. I think NRS games are deep enough for any high level player to enjoy. My issue is that every game has weird random things that Paulo decided was good idea. Like random health values in this game that make zero sense.
In sf 4 for example old and girl characters used to hit for less damage than big characters. - this makes sense.
In this game for some reason Motaro gives you less life than other kameos. Why ? I dont know, someone at nrs thought it was a cool idea I guess.
 
superbn0va

superbn0va

Apprentice
Felipe_Gewehr said:
Oh, so you mean

Jade
Sheeva
Nightwolf
Noob saibot
Kitana
Scorpion
Sub zero
Skarlet
Rain
Shang
Smoke
Kabal
Kano
Stryker
Cyber sub
Sektor
Cyrax
Baraka
Jax
Sonya
Liu Kang
Quan Chi.
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Do you own MK9? Im not in the mood to set up my ps3 and show you how punishable Kung Lao's spin is. But maybe you do it yourself and see that it's not a safe move. Idk how you think it's safe?
 
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