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Support for MK1 Supposedly Cancelled

Do you think this is the end of MK1?

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Juggs

Juggs

Lose without excuses
Lead Moderator
Just assuming here, but I’d be surprised if they supported MK1 for very much longer. I had a long thing typed out, which most of it are things I’ve mentioned before. But idk, I feel like people are tired of hearing what I have to say on the matter ¯\(ツ)/¯
 
superbn0va

superbn0va

Apprentice
Can someone enlighten me on Cyrax? Maybe I’m missing some crucial info because…

Who @NRS designed Cyrax and thought let’s give her:

A curved projectile that staggers you for idk how long while:

  1. Give her a teleport..
  2. Bombs that allow for crazy mixups (or reset..)
  3. Net that drains your meter (so you can’t break)..
  4. Command grab that allows to combo..
  5. A moving forward string that ends into overhead that pops (allows for a meterless combo into mixups..)
  6. Do combos without spending any meter or Kameo thus keeping all her meter and bar untouched to drain your meter when she feels like spending (again, to prevent you from breaking her combo into mixups..)
  7. Hard mixups without spending meter..
  8. Much more..
So Cyrax can basically do whatever she wants into a projectile, hold that, eat damage, drain your meter and trap you into a mixup or she doesn’t drain your meter and just does damage, keeps all that meter and bar and mixes you up anyways..

And she can do this from a distance or up close.. she has way too much going on..

How is this still in the game? How come the community is ok with this?
 
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Vulgar

Vulgar

Warrior
superbn0va said:
Can someone enlighten me on Cyrax? Maybe I’m missing some crucial info because…

Who @NRS designed Cyrax and thought let’s give her:

A curved projectile that staggers you for idk how long while:

  1. Give her a teleport..
  2. Bombs that allow for crazy mixups (or reset..)
  3. Net that drains your meter (so you can’t break)..
  4. Command grab that allows to combo..
  5. A moving forward string that ends into overhead that pops (allows for a meterless combo into mixups..)
  6. Do combos without spending any meter or Kameo thus keeping all her meter and bar untouched to drain your meter when she feels like spending (again, to prevent you from breaking her combo into mixups..)
  7. Hard mixups without spending meter..
  8. Much more..
So Cyrax can basically do whatever she wants into a projectile, hold that, eat damage, drain your meter and trap you into a mixup or she doesn’t drain your meter and just does damage, keeps all that meter and bar and mixes you up anyways..

And she can do this from a distance or up close.. she has way too much going on..

How is this still in the game? How come the community is ok with this?
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Salt.
 
Trickywizard

Trickywizard

Apprentice
superbn0va said:
Can someone enlighten me on Cyrax? Maybe I’m missing some crucial info because…

Who @NRS designed Cyrax and thought let’s give her:

A curved projectile that staggers you for idk how long while:

  1. Give her a teleport..
  2. Bombs that allow for crazy mixups (or reset..)
  3. Net that drains your meter (so you can’t break)..
  4. Command grab that allows to combo..
  5. A moving forward string that ends into overhead that pops (allows for a meterless combo into mixups..)
  6. Do combos without spending any meter or Kameo thus keeping all her meter and bar untouched to drain your meter when she feels like spending (again, to prevent you from breaking her combo into mixups..)
  7. Hard mixups without spending meter..
  8. Much more..
So Cyrax can basically do whatever she wants into a projectile, hold that, eat damage, drain your meter and trap you into a mixup or she doesn’t drain your meter and just does damage, keeps all that meter and bar and mixes you up anyways..

And she can do this from a distance or up close.. she has way too much going on..

How is this still in the game? How come the community is ok with this?
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Cyrax is a woke DEI hire, ofc she/they/them/it? Is gonna be busted.
 
superbn0va

superbn0va

Apprentice
Vulgar said:
Salt.
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No salt, just curious how she can have all of this while the rest of the cast can’t even do half of it with a Kameo..

SonicFox ain’t even addressing it while he knows this is bs, lol..

I’ll bet you Cyrax will win Evo or a tournament similar to Evo if they leave her like she is now. The game is based around kameos but Cyrax doesn’t need one, this makes no sense..
 
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Vulgar

Vulgar

Warrior
superbn0va said:
No salt, just curious how she can have all of this while the rest of the cast can’t even do half of it with a Kameo..

SonicFox ain’t even addressing it while he knows this is bs, lol..

I’ll bet you Cyrax will win Evo or a tournament similar to Evo if they leave her like she is now. The game is based around kameos but Cyrax doesn’t need one, this makes no sense..
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Cyrax does have weaknesses. String gaps, bad armor, very sus neutral buttons, etc.

What makes people salty is the Sarenna vortex, and that's understandable. It's pretty fucked up.

But that's something that could be fixed by adjusting the duration of her capture state or something like that.

And even if she did win EVO, that doesn't necessarily means she needs to be nerfed into non-existence.

If Top 8s were full of Cyrax players the way they were for Deadshot or Summoner Quan Chi back in the day, that would be one thing.

However, if you look at the results of a lot of these weekly events, the Top 8 is pretty diverse.

Which means a lot of the hate Top Tiers get is salt at having to deal with it. Which is normal. Which is human. Everyone complains, especially in an era where being a complainer on social media is rewarded with up votes and clout.
 
Lt. Boxy Angelman

Lt. Boxy Angelman

I WILL EAT THIS GAME
Trickywizard said:
Yeah well I’m still very proud. It wasn’t easy.
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One day/FT10 at a time, my guy.

Sektor needs help.
I don't understand how every other character in this round of DLC either can or already has won a tournament, and Sektor is over here saying her prayers with Motaro and Mavado that she gets more than just a worn out pair of socks for her birthday this year.
 
E

Eji1700

Kombatant
superbn0va said:
A curved projectile that staggers you for idk how long while:
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While sub zero, multiple buffs later, still has almost no use for his signature projectile.....

The short answer looks like "they took off the safety rails way too late". So sure cyrax gets to be a real girl, but those that were launch roster have to get QoL patches down the line. The average powerlevel of the cast is VASTLY higher than on launch, but yeah some characters still lag behind.

In general at some point they finally switched to a sort of "let it rock" mindset, but this leaves little time for cleanup passes on what are quasi acceptable, if very boring, gameplay patterns.

As always i'd love to know how these discussions actually occur and what issues there are, because NRS has never felt like they had a clear direction. As it's been gone over a zillion times, god knows SFV launched with some capital I fucking issues, but it at least felt like they hammered out what they wanted the game to be by the end (and then shit the bed with luke).

I still get the feeling that MK1 is in some sort of "fuck it try this" pattern.
 
superbn0va

superbn0va

Apprentice
Vulgar said:
Cyrax does have weaknesses. String gaps, bad armor, very sus neutral buttons, etc.

What makes people salty is the Sarenna vortex, and that's understandable. It's pretty fucked up.
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Every character has their weaknesses. All, if not 90% of the cast has these if not, similar weaknesses you mentioned while not being able to do half of what Cyrax does while spending bar and meter.

70% mid screen combo without using a Kameo while being able to do all this other sht is ridiculous.

I don’t see Cyrax having a sus neutral, I actually think she has good buttons that can lead into mixups, again without spending. While eating 40% of your health bar..

This makes no sense in a game where it’s based around kameos.
 
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Vulgar

Vulgar

Warrior
superbn0va said:
Every character has their weaknesses. All, if not 90% of the cast has these if not, similar weaknesses you mentioned while not being able to do half of what Cyrax does while spending bar and meter.

70% mid screen combo without using a Kameo while being able to do all this other sht is ridiculous.

I don’t see Cyrax having a sus neutral, I actually think she has good buttons that can lead into mixups, again without spending. While eating 40% of your health bar..

This makes no sense in a game where it’s based around kameos.
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Most of her buttons are pretty short range. Sindel, Havik, Homelander, T-1000, Noob, Ermac etc all have better footsie buttons, imo.

I would also say that all of those characters are likely better than her.

I do think that the Cyrax/Sareena loop should be looked at, but I think it's interesting that the "we want high power levels" crowd is now suddenly going, "no, nerf the top tier."

If she dominated Top 8s, I'd be more on board with seeing her nerfed, but she doesn't. I'm pretty sure that at this point in the game's life, Kung Lao has more Top 8 placings.

Now THAT's a character with good footsie buttons! ;-)
 
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