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Has NRS silenced the Mortal Kombat 1 critics?

Has NRS silenced the Mortal Kombat 1 critics?


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Vulgar

Kombatant
Step up! Step up! Parasocially attached to a product and treating it as your religion? So fragile you can't take criticism of [product] without it emotionally hurting you yet so desperate for interaction about [product] that you have a pathological need to interact with critical discussions about it? Assblasted about feedback regarding [product]? Fear no more! We've got just the thing for you! It's the Dial-A-Cope input method! Whenever you're faced with criticism about the [product] you've adopted as your personal identity just choose the cope of your choice to banish all criticism and act as if it's irrelevant! And the best part? You don't even have to address the criticism itself! A new miracle wonder cope available now! Take your pick! Just match up the cope to the scenario! And it doesn't matter if you pick more than one! They might directly conflict with each other but that's irrelevant because who cares about being good faith?! Just cope!

They bought the [product]<- "You're shouting into the void. Only sales matter and you contributed to sales so you told the company it's good. Just shut up"

They didn't buy the [product] <- "You've got no skin in the game. You didn't even buy [product] so you're not a customer. Your opinion is irrelevant"

They are still using [product] <- "Heh, well you say it's bad but you're still playing it so I guess you're not THAT unhappy. If you're still using [product], how can you complain about it?"

They aren't still using [product] <- "Um, you don't even use [product]. How can you still complain about it when you're not even familiar with the most recent applications of [product]? Why don't you just shut up"

They are talking about new [product] not having a feature of old [product] <- "Um, NO ONE used that feature. It was worthless. Aren't we supposed to get rid of bad things in [product]? What a stupid, meaningless thing to complain about"

They are talking about a new feature in [product] <-"Um, it's NEW. How can you be upset at them trying something new? Give them time to work the bugs out and be happy we got something new"

They are criticizing [product] before release <- "Ohmigod, shut up! It's not even out yet, how can you complain about it? Wait until [product] actually comes out so you can give meaningful feedback. Yes, of course you should still buy it because otherwise you can't complain about it"

They are criticizing [product] just after release <- "Ohmigod, shut up! It JUST came out! You don't even know enough about it to properly critique it! Give it some time so YOU can understand it better"

They are criticizing [product] after it's been out a while <- "Ohmigod, shut up! It's been out so long why are you STILL talking about this?! Talk about obsessed!"

They are new fans of [product] <- "Shut up, you don't understand why things are the way they are. Settle in and learn before you think you can just throw out criticisms as if you know anything"

They are old fans of [product] <- "Here we go again with the OLD FANS unable to accept anything new and just hating on it because they HATE CHANGE"

They are criticizing [product] in a [product] discussion <- "Just go away! This is a place for people that LIKE [product] and we're tired of your negativity!"

They are criticizing [product] in a non-[product] discussion <- "Just go away! This has nothing to do with [product]!"

They are criticizing [product] in a [product] discussion specifically for criticizing [product] <- "Oh wow can you ALL just shut up? There's been enough discussion about criticism of [product] already!"

That's right a whole world of coping responses right at your fingertips! Pick whichever one works for the situation and, remember, you being unable to countenance the existence of criticism of [product] means you TRULY love it and that it loves you too...and that's all that matters!
A fantastic amount of effort to....

Burn up a straw man.

Never beating those chud allegations.
 
UMVC3 scene lasted about 10 years and has made a comeback with zero support from the Devs. I wish the NRs scene could do that too, sadly this isn’t the case.
If the support for this game ends soon which seems very likely it will the game has a few more months left.
Personally I don’t care either way, I like this game but I wouldn’t mind a new MK game.
 

Jynks

some heroes are born, some made, some wondrous
Then mk1 haters will go back and say mk1 was great and mk2 is shit.
that literally happens every time.

There are not that many fans that stay across all game releases... what seems to happen is game Y ends and game X comes out... a small percentage of the players of Y hate X and bang on about it constantly, and never shut up about how much they hate it, but also can't stop hanging out on the forum for the game as they loved Y so much. Then Y ends and Z is released. Most of the original Y fans that hated X are now gone, leaving only fans of Y... and the entire cycle starts again.

MKx was HATED by a lot of people on this site.. it was absolutely destroyed in thread after thread, just like this one. Then MK11 came out and suddenly MKx was loved, and everyone hated MK11... then MK1 comes out and MK11 is now in a revisionist period.

It is the cycle of this fandom. I 100% guarantee, bookmark this post... that once MK2 comes out most of the posts about MK1 will be how awesome it was and how much MK2 sucks.... happens every single time.
 
that literally happens every time.

There are not that many fans that stay across all game releases... what seems to happen is game Y ends and game X comes out... a small percentage of the players of Y hate X and bang on about it constantly, and never shut up about how much they hate it, but also can't stop hanging out on the forum for the game as they loved Y so much. Then Y ends and Z is released. Most of the original Y fans that hated X are now gone, leaving only fans of Y... and the entire cycle starts again.

MKx was HATED by a lot of people on this site.. it was absolutely destroyed in thread after thread, just like this one. Then MK11 came out and suddenly MKx was loved, and everyone hated MK11... then MK1 comes out and MK11 is now in a revisionist period.

It is the cycle of this fandom. I 100% guarantee, bookmark this post... that once MK2 comes out most of the posts about MK1 will be how awesome it was and how much MK2 sucks.... happens every single time.
Reo explained this cycle on one of their podcast.
 

CrimsonShadow

Administrator and Community Engineer
Administrator
Lol yeah, people were talking about how MKX was going to kill the franchise, and how it should absolutely not be used as the blueprint for the next game. It was called “dead” after 6 months. Truly wild.

At some point we need to learn to just let things play out. Everyone will have games they don’t particularly like, but the scene is the only thing that will still be around after individual games are gone.

We just had a big tournament with several of the top players in the world. It’s super weird to see a select group of people just flaming each other during the whole thing, while the venue and stream chat are going crazy.
 

PrinceGoro

Apprentice
Reo explained this cycle on one of their podcast.
The cycle has been broken with mk11.

Absolutely nobody is out here going like yoo mk11 gameplay was peak shit, yo i want breakaway back, yooo lets bring back amplify and have everything cost meter, yooo lets bring back forward rolls and a million wake up options, yoo bring back custome moves etc etc.

If anything mkx has gotten even more praise soley based on how much cool and insane shit you can ro with chracters in that game and all of its problems are disregarded.

The only thing people are saying about mk11 after mk1 is thqt it shipped more complete content wise and that it was much more polished/ finished on release. Referencing qol features and customisation
 

Vulgar

Kombatant
The cycle has been broken with mk11.

Absolutely nobody is out here going like yoo mk11 gameplay was peak shit, yo i want breakaway back, yooo lets bring back amplify and have everything cost meter, yooo lets bring back forward rolls and a million wake up options, yoo bring back custome moves etc etc.

If anything mkx has gotten even more praise soley based on how much cool and insane shit you can ro with chracters in that game and all of its problems are disregarded.

The only thing people are saying about mk11 after mk1 is thqt it shipped more complete content wise and that it was much more polished/ finished on release. Referencing qol features and customisation
Actually this isn't true.

There was a pretty sizeable wave of people wanting to go back to MK11 when MK1 was in one if it's lower periods. Xombat even called it, "peak."
 

Felipe_Gewehr

Twinktile
At this point I think NRS has had a cycle where they will do one game where I love the gameplay, then do another where I dislike it. In mkx, they tried to build upon mk9. People were polarized and then they thought "well lets make things completely different" for mk11. Which in turn made them "ok lets go back to Mk9 basics and build upon that" for mk1.

In regards to gameplay I liked mk9, loved mkx, disliked mk11 and LOOVED mk1. I hope the next one escapes this cycle, because I sure as hell dont ever want to see mk11.2
 

chrisisnice

I'm a lover, not a fighter
@Vulgar has one thing right - If you have never played the game, your opinions about the quality of the game really hold no weight.

I hated MK11 - worst game since MKDA imo. I know this, because I played it a decent amount to make an informed choice.

I was expecting to hate MK1. I was a vocal opponent to kameos and questioned a lot of the choices made. I did not think I would enjoy the game at all. Then... I played it. Now I love the game and am eating my words. To me, it is one of the most fun in the franchise.
 

Jynks

some heroes are born, some made, some wondrous
Absolutely nobody is out here going like yoo mk11 gameplay was peak shit, yo i want breakaway back, yooo lets bring back amplify and have everything cost meter, yooo lets bring back forward rolls and a million wake up options, yoo bring back custome moves etc etc
actually,. lots of people are. You might not be, nor your friends, but lots of people are.

I think it was Foxy who recently made a video about how MK11 was the best MK ever made, and his chan is almost completely devoted to it now, and he claims his stream and tube is earning him 6 figures, so he has plenty of people that watch it.....

Just start reading this forum you see pro-MK11 posts ALL the time.... now.

Destroyer recently tweated that the MK11 stream had the highest viewership of all his recent streams, including the MK1 and MKx events he ran...

I'm not saying MK11 is the best, all I ma saying is that the "swing" is in full effect.
 

Subby Z

Mortal
Sooo I have said this before.

Casuals loved MK11 and presentation wise MK11 is peak. MK1 was a step down because it almost felt generic. I think that was by design though to get players to buy skins.

Again like I said MK9 gave a surge to MKX. MKX gave a surge to MK11. MK11 gave a surge to MK1. You can not like Mk11 and it’s gameplay and that’s fine, but it wasn’t overall so bad received that people question what happened.

MK1 is where I question how many people are coming back. I may have to eat my words but I genuinely believe there won’t be a surge from MK1 to whatever their next MK is. I just don’t see it. There will be some but it’s gonna be way weaker than the surge from these last 3 games.

That is unless they drop this whole fucking timeline and we see all of our old characters in the trailer. Then I’ll be like, “Welp boys I’m eating my words!” And I will gladly do that because fuck this timeline.
 

Jynks

some heroes are born, some made, some wondrous
I'm not saying MK11 is good or bad.. all I am saying is that people, for whatever reason, like it, and now are not getting shot down when they say it. It is so easy, and I fall into this connective bias myself, to assume as my mates and I think one thing, everyone basically thinks that... and the truth it is usually the exact opposite.

MK1 is where I question how many people are coming back. I may have to eat my words but I genuinely believe there won’t be a surge from MK1 to whatever their next MK is. I just don’t see it. There will be some but it’s gonna be way weaker than the surge from these last 3 games.
I think it is clear now, after the stats were released, that MK1 is really popular. Like REALLY popular, despite the reservations of a vocal minority. There is an entire generation of kids that play it every day and have ONLY played MK1, and when MK2 is out.. MK1 will be "there game". You can hate it, I can like it, ... whatever.... but MK2 will be as huge, and MK1 will find its staunch supporters that talk about how MK1 was the bomb.
 

Subby Z

Mortal
I'm not saying MK11 is good or bad.. all I am saying is that people, for whatever reason, like it, and now are not getting shot down when they say it. It is so easy, and I fall into this connective bias myself, to assume as my mates and I think one thing, everyone basically thinks that... and the truth it is usually the exact opposite.



I think it is clear now, after the stats were released, that MK1 is really popular. Like REALLY popular, despite the reservations of a vocal minority. There is an entire generation of kids that play it every day and have ONLY played MK1, and when MK2 is out.. MK1 will be "there game". You can hate it, I can like it, ... whatever.... but MK2 will be as huge, and MK1 will find its staunch supporters that talk about how MK1 was the bomb.
I don’t see it. All I’m saying. I don’t see it.