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Kiss the Missile

Red Messiah
Yeah it might turn out really good,its just specualtion.But being shadowless for the rest of the round is a huge drawback,not only do you lose pretty much all of his launchers but you also have gimped strings and he uses the shadow in the vast majority of them.

It just doesnt seem all that good considering the drawback,i mean im very eager to lab what an optimal full structured combo would be using that buff and kameos and see how much damage you can do.

A big thing thats imo going to make or break this buff is can you choose to spend this or is it automatic on hit/block.If its automatic and you spend it on first use of a special move,then imo im going to comfrtably call it very niche and situational hot garbage
It's a duration. So it isn't just your first Shadow. It's all your shadows for as long as its active. Including his throw
 

PrinceGoro

Dojo Trainee
It's a duration. So it isn't just your first Shadow. It's all your shadows for as long as its active. Including his throw
Hmm i remeber from the komabt kast the very first time it landed it used up the buff and 16 bit commented see i cant do it anymire as i used it already.

If its like you say where in a duration you can keep using it in a combo/multiple individual uses for a set timer after actiavation then it may have potential,if nothing else on final round matches to go ham.
 

Kiss the Missile

Red Messiah
Hmm i remeber from the komabt kast the very first time it landed it used up the buff and 16 bit commented see i cant do it anymire as i used it already.

If its like you say where in a duration you can keep using it in a combo/multiple individual uses for a set timer after actiavation then it may have potential,if nothing else on final round matches to go ham.
Because she popped it and stood there letting it run out. At the end of Noob's reveal trailer you can see him use the shadow portals like 3 times in a row.
 

Eji1700

Kombatant
Yeah it might turn out really good,its just specualtion.But being shadowless for the rest of the round is a huge drawback,not only do you lose pretty much all of his launchers but you also have gimped strings and he uses the shadow in the vast majority of them.

It just doesnt seem all that good considering the drawback,i mean im very eager to lab what an optimal full structured combo would be using that buff and kameos and see how much damage you can do.

A big thing thats imo going to make or break this buff is can you choose to spend this or is it automatic on hit/block.If its automatic and you spend it on first use of a special move,then imo im going to comfrtably call it very niche and situational hot garbage
For the record I don’t think it’s a spend it. It’s a timeline so everything you can spam in that time uses the effect
 

PrinceGoro

Dojo Trainee
Yeah,just cheked out the dev fight again and they did use it multiple times in the same combo,thats so much better then what i originally undetstood.
 

Eddy Wang

Skarlet scientist
I think Noob's armor move is going to be one of the worst ones in the game. A stationary single hitting low sweep. What do you do against someone like Homelander who's going to be above you the entire match, especially on your wakeup
with Embraced Khaos might become an armored launcher
 

Kiss the Missile

Red Messiah
with Embraced Khaos might become an armored launcher
It is, but imo that would be incredibly risky to use EK as anything other than a conversion tool to end a round.
You pop EK in neutral and then what? All I have to do is wait it out and you're completely gimped.
 
Just from the quick look I had this morning:
  • I saw a lot of buttons that were -7 or more. I guess we are supposed to use db3 to make us safe. I'm not sure what wlse that move would be for.
  • A lot of strings had knockback that I used far scorpion combo off of.
  • The ghostball hitstun knocks opponent out of kameo captures. I was hoping to do string xx kamsub freeze xx ghostball xx portal xx string xx detonate xx whatever from there but the ghostball has to be set up before hand. Kameo capture may still be good for embrace round enders.
 

RWDY Nori

MK is kinda dope
Just from the quick look I had this morning:
  • I saw a lot of buttons that were -7 or more. I guess we are supposed to use db3 to make us safe. I'm not sure what wlse that move would be for.
  • A lot of strings had knockback that I used far scorpion combo off of.
  • The ghostball hitstun knocks opponent out of kameo captures. I was hoping to do string xx kamsub freeze xx ghostball xx portal xx string xx detonate xx whatever from there but the ghostball has to be set up before hand. Kameo capture may still be good for embrace round enders.
I'm not sure if using DB3 to make things safe is the right strategy cause that is a high that can be ducked. Everything else I agree with. I'm looking at him like a high risk high reward char honestly, but he does look strong.
 

just_2swift

MK1 is the best MK period.
Embrace khaos should've been an install where noob and his shadow uses negative edge like zato from guilty gear. Makes in more interactive and worth it. Plus it would live up to the name.

Also as a puppet install you could imagine the creativity players could come up with. We're talking limitless potential here.
 
is it me or his F1,3,2,2 is not working
It requires embrace khaos active.

Speaking of, I also couldn't ji1234 to work when I first went into practice and I haven't seen anyone else use it either. I don't think it's another embrace string but I don't have the game in front of me rn.

Also taking the moment to apologize to db3, I was not familiar with your game.
 

Kiss the Missile

Red Messiah
I still don't see a realistic application of EK tbh.
Sektor double rockets seem pretty good for setting up some EX Ghostball low/overhead mixups...and the Ghostball can keep you safe if they guess right

I was messing with this idea yesterday. You have to be careful because Ghostball is a high. Time this wrong and you'll eat an unbreakable d2 combo
 

Kiss the Missile

Red Messiah
For anyone else who might have been having trouble with Noob's punch during his grab, you need to press grab again RIGHT BEFORE Saibot grabs them to toss them backwards
 

Ardet

Noob
I still don't see a realistic application of EK tbh.


I was messing with this idea yesterday. You have to be careful because Ghostball is a high. Time this wrong and you'll eat an unbreakable d2 combo
You can setup up EK at the end of combo and be plus to do strike/throw mix. From throw you can get over 40% meterless which is SUPER strong. Considering loosing almost half of your health bar because of throw is nothing too shady
 

Kiss the Missile

Red Messiah
You can setup up EK at the end of combo and be plus to do strike/throw mix. From throw you can get over 40% meterless which is SUPER strong. Considering loosing almost half of your health bar because of throw is nothing too shady
If you have EK activated I'm back teching every time. If I delay the first wakeup, and you forward throw me, I delay wakeup again, your EK is gone.

Its for this reason I think EK shouldn't be on a timer. I think it should be your next 3 Shadows have the buff applied to them. Which sounds strong af, but I look at the shit the other dlc characters are doing and I don't feel so bad for making this suggestion.
 

Felipe_Gewehr

Twinktile
So, one thing I noticed: embrace khaos making your shadows unavailable for the rest of the match is a LIE. Plain and simple. If you activate EK at the end of a round and win before the timer expires, you are back to full control of your shadows on the next round.
 

BlazingShrapnel

World's Worst Nitara
So, one thing I noticed: embrace khaos making your shadows unavailable for the rest of the match is a LIE. Plain and simple. If you activate EK at the end of a round and win before the timer expires, you are back to full control of your shadows on the next round.
Isn't that what they explained in the Kombat Kast? I coulda sworn EK was explained as something you can activate once per match, but it disables your shadow until the next round. It's also part of the reason I've been shocked at people writing it off as not useful lol
 

Felipe_Gewehr

Twinktile
Isn't that what they explained in the Kombat Kast? I coulda sworn EK was explained as something you can activate once per match, but it disables your shadow until the next round. It's also part of the reason I've been shocked at people writing it off as not useful lol
I was under the impression they said the shadows would not come back for the entire match, not the round.