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xRantex

Rante Inferno
I mean, it wasn't base in MKX either. It was only available in Displacer iirc.
Oh ok I didn't use him much in mkx I used Mileena. But his custom moves barely helped him out in this game and some needed tweaking. Storm cell is good but is full combo punished if he miss it.
 

xRantex

Rante Inferno
As it should
Exactly. I'm just saying it's a risky move. And I noticed you never like any of my Raiden footage and always try to comment on things I say. Idk if you jealous or what and really Idc imma still speak my mind and upload my Raiden content cause I'm the ish with him regardless of his flaws. And regardless how you feel. ⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡
 
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xRantex

Rante Inferno
Not about to argue with anyone anymore I play games to kick butt I could careless about arguing or always having something smart to say to someone. I wield the lightning and I don't need anybody feedback. ⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡
 

Mandolore1123

Man of Science Who Wields the Living Lightning
Exactly. I'm just saying it's a risky move. And I noticed you never like any of my Raiden footage and always try to comment on things I say. Idk if you jealous or what and really Idc imma still speak my mind and upload my Raiden content cause I'm the ish with him regardless of his flaws. And regardless how you feel. ⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡
Why would I be jealous of you lol
 

Mandolore1123

Man of Science Who Wields the Living Lightning
Cause everybody like my content and skip pass yours. Lol.
So? I post to get feedback, not to show off my flawless victories. If they have nothing to say I have nothing to lose, if they do I get what I want. Why you so mad all of a sudden?
 

xRantex

Rante Inferno
So? I post to get feedback, not to show off my flawless victories. If they have nothing to say I have nothing to lose, if they do I get what I want. Why you so mad all of a sudden?
I also show off my comebacks... And when you randomly quoted me just now saying "as it should" like I think it should be safe or something.
 

Mandolore1123

Man of Science Who Wields the Living Lightning
I also show off my comebacks... And when you randomly quoted me just now saying "as it should" like I think it should be safe or something.
You said "storm cell is good but...", implying that being full combo punishable is bad for a 14f circular hit box launcher that goes both sides, gives Raiden his highest unbreakable damage, is a mixup off his pokes and only trades with 6f D1s, when it's what it SHOULD be with ANY launcher. Storm cell is good period. No buts needed.
Raiden's is a very very good place in the current build of the game. He has next to no bad MUs if you can play him right.
 

xRantex

Rante Inferno
You said "storm cell is good but...", implying that being full combo punishable is bad for a 14f circular hit box launcher that goes both sides, gives Raiden his highest unbreakable damage, is a mixup off his pokes and only trades with 6f D1s, when it's what it SHOULD be with ANY launcher. Storm cell is good period. No buts needed.
Raiden's is a very very good place in the current build of the game. He has next to no bad MUs if you can play him right.
Yeah there are others on here that think we should be able to use the meter burn even if we miss. Costing us meter and being full combo punished but not by every move in the game. And I kinda agree with them but I'm not saying it should be changed I was just making a statement that it's good BUT it's bad too which is just me stating a fact. And yeah it's good BUT full combo punished by everything.
 

Mandolore1123

Man of Science Who Wields the Living Lightning
Yeah there are others on here that think we should be able to use the meter burn even if we miss. Costing us meter and being full combo punished but not by every move in the game. And I kinda agree with them but I'm not saying it should be changed I was just making a statement that it's good BUT it's bad too which is just me stating a fact. And yeah it's good BUT full combo punished by everything.
If your reward is so high you SHOULD be full combo punished by everything. Same thing with Noob's teleport.
 

Mandolore1123

Man of Science Who Wields the Living Lightning
Well everyone has an opinion on it, also noob has more zoning options than Raiden including his teleport.
What does zoning have to do with how good his launcher is? Launchers in MK are supposed to be full combo punished on block. If you're willing to take the risk to do a launcher on block or if your opponents read it they SHOULD be rewarded with a full combo punish of their pleasing. Which is why when you say "storm cell is good but it's full combo punishable" I say "as it should be" because that's how things work in MK11.
 

xRantex

Rante Inferno
What does zoning have to do with how good his launcher is? Launchers in MK are supposed to be full combo punished on block. If you're willing to take the risk to do a launcher on block or if your opponents read it they SHOULD be rewarded with a full combo punish of their pleasing. Which is why when you say "storm cell is good but it's full combo punishable" I say "as it should be" because that's how things work in MK11.
Because Raiden has to rely on storm cell in his thunder wave variant noob never has to rely on his teleport launcher he has an array of tools he could throw out there.
 

Mandolore1123

Man of Science Who Wields the Living Lightning
Because Raiden has to rely on storm cell in his thunder wave variant noob never has to rely on his teleport launcher he has an array of tools he could throw out there.
Do you play Noob? Have you played Noob against any zoner in the cast? His anti-zoning variation is literally using 2 slots for air teleport and teleport launcher because that what he relies on in those MUs
 

xRantex

Rante Inferno
Do you play Noob? Have you played Noob against any zoner in the cast? His anti-zoning variation is literally using 2 slots for air teleport and teleport launcher because that what he relies on in those MUs
No but I play against him enough to know what I'm talking about. He don't have to rely on it when storm cell is arguably Raiden's best custom move and thunder wave is the most well rounded variation because of storm cell and teleport.
 

Mandolore1123

Man of Science Who Wields the Living Lightning
No but I play against him enough to know what I'm talking about. He don't have to rely on it when storm cell is arguably Raiden's best custom move and thunder wave is the most well rounded variation because of storm cell and teleport.
So you haven't played in that situation I mentioned which is precisely why he needs to rely on teleport launcher?
 

xRantex

Rante Inferno
So you haven't played in that situation I mentioned which is precisely why he needs to rely on teleport launcher?
Most successful Raiden's use thunder wave, noob players use all different types of builds. So Raiden rely on storm cell more than noob does his teleport launcher is my point.
 

Mandolore1123

Man of Science Who Wields the Living Lightning
Most successful Raiden's use thunder wave, noob players use all different types of builds. So Raiden rely on storm cell more than noob does his teleport launcher is my point.
I don't think I'm getting through to you but whatever. I've yet to see a build of Noob that doesn't include either sickle snag/amp tele + slide because his launchers are that good.
 

xRantex

Rante Inferno
I don't think I'm getting through to you but whatever. I've yet to see a build of Noob that doesn't include either sickle snag/amp tele + slide because his launchers are that good.
Yeah sickle snag too but idk if that's full combo punished by everything? But yeah let's not turn this into a Raiden thread lol