Big, if true. Why jet stream? And where’s terminate?
Which move(s) are you questioning on this list?
I'm guessing they really don't want Wind Push dealing damage.
Wasn’t it like 20 damage? But shangs 50 damage unblockable isn’t on the banned list?
I think it's already changed. Stephanie said Terminate was banned. This list only has Endoskeleton.
Hopefully. But I doubt most, if any, of this stuff will matter because we don't know what's going to be changed with the actual patch. This is just what's on disc. Who knows what's changed between Ultimate going gold and now. At least it's something to talk about until then.
Shang can be pretty heavily punished for using it, Fujin's wind push is very difficult or impossible to punish depending on how its used, and is a super fast mid non-projectile with no travel time that pushes full screen when amped and ignores anti-fireball moves.Wasn’t it like 20 damage? But shangs 50 damage unblockable isn’t on the banned list?
Shang's Soul Swap is still really degenerate and it's on top of the rest of Shang's kit which is really fucking good.
Good point. Hopefully this list becomes irrelevant when the patch comes
Yeah but what should be taken off the Ban list and what should be put in?
Killer clot, jet stream, enhanced regal presence all have little reason to be banned. They aren't broken like core trap and don't offer a humongous advantage to the player who uses them
Balance patch isn't in the disc version so probably not. Frame data for the dlc characters is likely to change too.
Jet Stream gives Fujin a no hurtbox d3 that's +3 on block, it gives wind push damage, it makes his F31 plus etc.
I can only hope Soul Swap's Unblockable-ness and Damage are adjusted once the patch hits.
Then from where did you get info that Demon Dash is 12f now?
It has to be unblockable, or else there'd be no point in that move. Shang's also recovering for a full second before he can move so unless he's doing that from full screen he's definitely getting full combo punished. Even from full screen I'm pretty sure many characters have the tools to punish with like a charge move or even a projectile which will certainly deal more damage than Soul Swap. The only place where this would be unfair is if opponent has only 5% health left
It shouldn't be left as is now and if it is it should Banned.
Everything I've said still applies to the move as it is now. It's highly unsafe and the only argument that can be made is that it might be too broken in low life situations. Many characters can punish it easily. It's not like a far teleport where he moves a set distance away from the opponent so he can keep zoning, the distance between him and the opponent never changes because he simply swaps places with them, and after he swaps you have a full second to dash in or do something to close that gap even further
