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freerf245

freerf245

11 11 11 11
LaidbackOne said:
12 doesn't link into the launcher.
f2 also doesn't.
These are the biggest problems of this variation imo. It has way better corner game than HD since you build throw kb heat with one midscreen bnb
This variation has potential to be really good, just needs a few adjustments. Give it a shot.
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If f2 linked into MbBf2, Grinnin Barret would be his best variation.
 
deathstroke187

deathstroke187

Warrior
Alright so been playing v2 a lot and im still convinced that v2 is bad here is why.

There is no mix , strike throw isnt really a real mix cause you can react to throws in this game and tech but of course you cant know if its forward or backward. yes Jax can throw loop both direction. But the reward is still ass for the risk.

12 and f2 doesnt combo into ripped wich is ulra bad imo. cause you can fuzzy or even react to f2 ripped so not a mix. BF 2 cancel is useless as fuck. Ripped is 29 frames...

This variation good points
more damage (still on low end)
force opponent to breakaway
projectile parry
 
thlityoursloat

thlityoursloat

kick kick
deathstroke187 said:
Alright so been playing v2 a lot and im still convinced that v2 is bad here is why.

There is no mix , strike throw isnt really a real mix cause you can react to throws in this game and tech but of course you cant know if its forward or backward. yes Jax can throw loop both direction. But the reward is still ass for the risk.

12 and f2 doesnt combo into ripped wich is ulra bad imo. cause you can fuzzy or even react to f2 ripped so not a mix. BF 2 cancel is useless as fuck. Ripped is 29 frames...

This variation good points
more damage (still on low end)
force opponent to breakaway
projectile parry
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you should be using the built in f2 50/50 to mix, not the bf2 specials. Don't use ripped as a mixup, like you said it's 30f. Outside of combos you can use its sneaky range to catch people offguard when you have missiles to threaten, that's it.
The reward isn't ass, it's the same as everyone else, if anything it's better because Jax gets a damage boost to his throws with heat.
f2 and 12 not comboing is definitely ass, and it's the variation's biggest weakness apart from all the slow startup on bf2 specials.
You're also forgetting that it takes one combo to build full heat, it's his best zoning variation imo, esp with the projectile parry.
 
freerf245

freerf245

11 11 11 11
deathstroke187 said:
Alright so been playing v2 a lot and im still convinced that v2 is bad here is why.

There is no mix , strike throw isnt really a real mix cause you can react to throws in this game and tech but of course you cant know if its forward or backward. yes Jax can throw loop both direction. But the reward is still ass for the risk.

12 and f2 doesnt combo into ripped wich is ulra bad imo. cause you can fuzzy or even react to f2 ripped so not a mix. BF 2 cancel is useless as fuck. Ripped is 29 frames...

This variation good points
more damage (still on low end)
force opponent to breakaway
projectile parry
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His mix is actually pretty much the same as Geras's. Geras is only scarier cuz of how dumb his neutral is.
 
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deathstroke187

deathstroke187

Warrior
freerf245 said:
His mix is actually pretty much the same as Geras's. Geras is only scaring cuz of how dumb his neutral is.
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what ? you dont take eternal in consideration i guess, Eternal as true tick throws.
also amazing corner carry and geras hits harder also easier to hit confirm with geras. Geras in general is a way better character.
 
freerf245

freerf245

11 11 11 11
deathstroke187 said:
what ? you dont take eternal in consideration i guess, Eternal as true tick throws.
also amazing corner carry and geras hits harder also easier to hit confirm with geras. Geras in general is a way better character.
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*infinite warden Geras
I never said Jax was the better character I'm just pointing out that their offense is virtually the same up close, so to say Grinnin Barret doesn't have offense would imply that Infinite Geras doesn't have offense either.
 
deathstroke187

deathstroke187

Warrior
freerf245 said:
*infinite warden Geras
I never said Jax was the better character I'm just pointing out that their offense is virtually the same up close, so to say Grinnin Barret doesn't have offense would imply that Infinite Geras doesn't have offense either.
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i just legit dont know where you got me saying jax doesnt have offense.
 
freerf245

freerf245

11 11 11 11
deathstroke187 said:
so because a character doesnt have mix doesnt have offense ? i said jax had the best zoning from all his variation and that he does decent damage and force opponent to breakaway. this is why talking to you sucks and you are back in my ignore list.
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Lmaoooo yes dude, mix is one of the most important aspects of offense in any fighting game. Will our conversations ever not end with you crying and blocking me?
 
deathstroke187

deathstroke187

Warrior
freerf245 said:
Lmaoooo yes dude, mix is one of the most important aspects of offense in any fighting game. Will our conversations ever not end with you crying and blocking me?
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you are just too dumb to have a conversation with, characters like cetrion and johnny are top tier without any mix you are just too brain dead to read what others are saying you ignore even multiple positives things ive said. do you think ill be wasting hours of my life doing a guide and responding to people during my work hours to try to point out positive and negative aspect of this character you are trying to claim that geras is as offensive as jax you trippin dont even compare those two. I'm not gonna waste time replying to you anymore pointing hows and whys to you when you dont even read. You want to believe JAX is godlike go ahead i dont give a fuck.
 
freerf245

freerf245

11 11 11 11
deathstroke187 said:
you are just too dumb to have a conversation with, characters like cetrion and johnny are top tier without any mix you are just too brain dead to read what others are saying you ignore even multiple positives things ive said. do you think ill be wasting hours of my life doing a guide and responding to people during my work hours to try to point out positive and negative aspect of this character you are trying to claim that geras is as offensive as jax you trippin dont even compare those two. I'm not gonna waste time replying to you anymore pointing hows and whys to you when you dont even read. You want to believe JAX is godlike go ahead i dont give a fuck.
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Lol dude all I have said is that up close Grinnin Barret and Warden have the pretty much the same mix, which is 1000% true. I was just trying to show you that you are wrong about Grinnin Barret's mix. I am completely aware that offense doesn't equal mix, but it is a huge aspect of rushdown characters like Jax and Geras.

I by no means think Jax is godlike and have never said that. I am just trying to keep bullshit out of his discussion (like Grinnin Barret's having no mix).

One of your favorite comebacks to me is the fact that I am not a competitive player. You do realize that all the competitive players were scared off this website by people that do nothing but cry about decent characters (you), right?
 
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