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THE OFFICIAL MK11 COMPLAINT/RANT THREAD

Backforthbackforth backforthbackforth backforthbackforth in every match I play. Must be that infamous "neutral game" I hear so much about. My goodness. I really don't know what to think about this game. I want to like it, but I realized I've been forcing myself to play it. I don't remember the last two games frustrating me this much. Even when I lost I had fun. This game is just cancer online.
 
Backforthbackforth backforthbackforth backforthbackforth in every match I play. Must be that infamous "neutral game" I hear so much about. My goodness. I really don't know what to think about this game. I want to like it, but I realized I've been forcing myself to play it. I don't remember the last two games frustrating me this much. Even when I lost I had fun. This game is just cancer online.
Neutral game? Oh you mean d1 and throws all the time?
 

Arqwart

D'Vorah for KP2 copium
I'm tired of dealing with Erron Black. His current state is unacceptable and needs multiple notable nerfs to be brought in line. Everyone may say Sub plays MKX, but he just 50/50s with risk. Erron is the true MKX character forcibly transplanted into MK11 with no thought to how terrible that is for the game.

I'm 100% mad enough that I want NRS to blow the cowboy's kneecaps out with his own rifle.
 

Elias6999

Mournful Master
I hate that there is so much disparity between character tools. Don’t get me wrong, the game is well balanced considering we haven’t had a single patch, but the difference in say Kitana and Erron’s tools is RIDICULOUS. Also, highs are really weak in this game. This can all be fixed, but the thing I am most worried about is throw loops, especially in a game where throws are so powerful!
 

Gaxkang

Banned
I was fighting a Scorpion and I'm blocking string stuff that a 7 frame D1 will punish, but in that fight...nope. Even worse, the Scorp would hit D1 after their string finished and it would hit me, my D1 never existed.

And big deal if my D1 does connect...all I can get from it is trying a throw.

Really I'm only playing Kombat League to unlock some stuff...when that's done I'm done with that mode until the next comes along. The gameplay just inspires a :rolleyes:
 

Hellbringer

1 2 3 drink
Backforthbackforth backforthbackforth backforthbackforth in every match I play. Must be that infamous "neutral game" I hear so much about. My goodness. I really don't know what to think about this game. I want to like it, but I realized I've been forcing myself to play it. I don't remember the last two games frustrating me this much. Even when I lost I had fun. This game is just cancer online.
Yeah backforthbackforth is really hard to deal with i keep getting hit by that mixup online. :(
 
Yeah backforthbackforth is really hard to deal with i keep getting hit by that mixup online. :(
As Kano or Kotal, absolutely, because both are shit characters and neither have mids to counter poke mashing. But others like Cage have fast walk speed so you can fight back and space properly. This is the rant thread by the way. I know how much you'd love to lecture everyone here on how non-obnoxious this game is at times. Your fanboying/defense of Scorpion simply will not work here. Also, post the characters that you use.
 

Hellbringer

1 2 3 drink
As Kano or Kotal, absolutely, because both are shit characters and neither have mids to counter poke mashing. But others like Cage have fast walk speed so you can fight back and space properly. This is the rant thread by the way. I know how much you'd love to lecture everyone here on how non-obnoxious this game is at times. Your fanboying/defense of Scorpion simply will not work here. Also, post the characters that you use.
I only lecture you cause im your biggest fan. Kotal has best wavedash in the game, and i dont understand your trouble with mashers, kotals d1 is 7 frames you dont need a mid to counter masher cause he has his command grab.
Not sure why you wanna know what characters i use but fine, i play kung lao mostly, i also play shang, kotal, skarlet and atm im learning kabal.
 
I only lecture you cause im your biggest fan. Kotal has best wavedash in the game, and i dont understand your trouble with mashers, kotals d1 is 7 frames you dont need a mid to counter masher cause he has his command grab.
Not sure why you wanna know what characters i use but fine, i play kung lao mostly, i also play shang, kotal, skarlet and atm im learning kabal.
I always ask what character others use so I can see through their perspective. Plus I only use 2 or 3 in fighting games anyway. Kotal has amazing range, but that's it. With Johnny you can just light him up with D4s all day when he moves in. When he tries to use his unblockable, I just jump over it. Terrible zoning too. I played against maybe 9 or 10 Kotals and lost only 2. But that was when I was first starting. I wanted to use him in this game, because I always got my ass beat by Sun God in MKX. I was afraid to go up against him before, but now it's most likely a win. I use Kano a lot so I know what's it's like to get D2'd through a command grab. Sure, throws are powerful enough so there has to be balance, but grapplers don't have to be combo heavy. They just need a way to check people that duck all day.
 
As someone said above me......I force myself to play this game. I paid a lot for this game and have the digital copy so I'm stuck with it. I've wanted to love it so bad but I don't. The biggest problem for me is that the combos don't have different paths to make them unique like MKX. There is not much room for any creativity......and they purposely made combos shorter in this game so it makes the loss of unique combos THAT much more obvious. When you main Jade who was described as " not a combo character" in her character breakdown on the combat cast it makes the game just feel very boring. I hate the wake up system.....it doesn't give you advantage most of the time. I hate the flawless block.....I gave up even trying to do it online. Most of all I miss the FUN......this game has all the fun sucked right out of it for me. It feels clunky and slow.
 

ketch0

Noob
Backforthbackforth backforthbackforth backforthbackforth in every match I play. Must be that infamous "neutral game" I hear so much about. My goodness. I really don't know what to think about this game. I want to like it, but I realized I've been forcing myself to play it. I don't remember the last two games frustrating me this much. Even when I lost I had fun. This game is just cancer online.
I call it the walk back meta.

I'm also forcing myself to play it for EVO because I signed up for it way back in February like a dumbass but the game just isn't fun.
 

SixPathsOfHate

Make triple skulls input BDF or DF Hold F
The way throws techs are done has me livid. I cant even comprehend what was going through the creator's heads when they thought this was good idea.
Lets make a grab that has no animation difference between back and front throw and to tech it your opponent has to press a button to what they THINK will be the direction you throw them. So much skill it hurts. Lets also make them do decent damage. MKX had too many UNREACTABLE 50/50s. Adding a straight up forced guessing button it fine.

If its not the throw techs then it is the lack of thought that custom variations are. Why announce and play up custom variations as some great feature that cant be used during competitive? I imagine if they added mini games like kombat kart or kombat chess that they would be played more than the actual game itself.
 
The way throws techs are done has me livid. I cant even comprehend what was going through the creator's heads when they thought this was good idea.
Lets make a grab that has no animation difference between back and front throw and to tech it your opponent has to press a button to what they THINK will be the direction you throw them. So much skill it hurts. Lets also make them do decent damage. MKX had too many UNREACTABLE 50/50s. Adding a straight up forced guessing button it fine.

If its not the throw techs then it is the lack of thought that custom variations are. Why announce and play up custom variations as some great feature that cant be used during competitive? I imagine if they added mini games like kombat kart or kombat chess that they would be played more than the actual game itself.
Let’s also punish the player for trying to tech the throw by giving some characters Krushing Blows in missed techs
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
They should have given every character the same amount and universal KB's, same requirements not just D2. Example, you compare Raiden's KB's vs Geras's, so stupid especially when 2 of Raiden's will never happen in a serious match. And Staggers in this game are the dumbest shit ever. NRS conned us with "we don't really want this game to be about 50/50's" hahaha meanwhile everyone has staggers into 50/50's and in some cases resets.
 

Gaxkang

Banned
So I ran into a rare Kano fight, I was playing Shao Kahn tho. He did a yolo kanoball (which is stuff I do yeah heh)...but I saw it and pressed block. Nope, hit.

In a Sub Zero fight I was crouching and he did his overhead, I saw it early tho and felt confident I had it clean in adjusting the block. Nope, hit and combo.

In another fight with a character I forget...I blocked their D1 and I hit my D1 but as if by magic they were already jumping away like Spring Heeled Jack.

It's like, ok… :p
 

TyCarter35

Bonafide Jax scrub
Is it just me or are KL players maniacs? Like they just throw out the most random shit I swear lol.
Depends on which character we talking abt. Cetrion and EB players mash hard no matter what, scorpions just do random teleports all the time, and Geras just does random U2s all the damn time
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
Depends on which character we talking abt. Cetrion and EB players mash hard no matter what, scorpions just do random teleports all the time, and Geras just does random U2s all the damn time
I have no played that many Cetrion, I have noticed they tend to go for that one combo that ends in the geyser. I wouldn't say they mash nearly as much as EB with B222 or KL players throwing out spins, dive kicks and teleports at random from my experience. Yeah, Scorpion players inpatient ones like to jump and teleport or try to bait you to to do your projectile so they can punish you. The ones patient are the harder ones. But honestly I don't even think Scorp and Geras need much tactics they're both busted and OP that an average player can dominate with them.
 
I’m not too upset about this but in KL I’m on my way to Demi god in KL and it’s gotten to the point where if I see a low tier character like frost, kollector, or Raiden I lose purely because I have no fucking idea how to play against those characters that nobody uses. I mean you must be a pretty damn good player if you pull out these characters at that high of a rank. I got my ass handed to me by a good Kollector(it was close) and a good Raiden in KL in a row and just flat out turned the game off for the day. Nothing wrong with these characters and I definitely need to get better but losing to those guys twice in a row is just flat out discouraging lol