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Noob Saibot General Discussion Thread

Anyone wanna run some Noob mirrors sometime? I feel like I'm lacking a lot with this character but I have a lot of fun with him. PSN: Plays2
Yeah. I can when I get home in about an hour if you want? I need some experience fighting Noob. I rarely do and using Noob is different than fighting him. PSN: ImmaDoMahThing.
 
Ladies and gentlemen, we must acknowledge Toxin and the fact that he placed 13th at EVO this year using only Noob as far as I know.
Haven't seen his matches in YT. But it would be awesome to see how were his matches against good players at Evo.
 
Idk if this is common knowledge or not but considering I have only seen 2 other people do it (both were Geras) I would assume not? After Noob's F2, 2, 1 gets blocked, you can flawless block some moves, especially D1's, afterwards for a combo. I was able to flawless block Scorpions Spear Twirl move with it. Hope this helps. And if you guys already knew that then ignore me lol.
 
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NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
Ladies and gentlemen, we must acknowledge Toxin and the fact that he placed 13th at EVO this year using only Noob as far as I know.
I'm not surprised.

The character is good and is a problem for alot of the top characters. He can contest with a 9 frame mid.
Good for him though. Too bad we didn't see him on stream...... or maybe its a good thing so Noob can stay here under that radar.
 

DrFolmer

AKA Uncle Kano
I think the sudden popularity of Cassie really discourages picking Noob. She punishes his best tools super easily from almost all ranges for a full combo. It's a shame because Noob Saibot is one of the absolute best designs in this game. I think Noob should stay as is especially if everyone in the S tier gets normalized. The thing is, there's not really a selling point when it comes to Noob. Cassie does what he does, just better and completely safe
 

NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
I think the sudden popularity of Cassie really discourages picking Noob. She punishes his best tools super easily from almost all ranges for a full combo. It's a shame because Noob Saibot is one of the absolute best designs in this game. I think Noob should stay as is especially if everyone in the S tier gets normalized. The thing is, there's not really a selling point when it comes to Noob. Cassie does what he does, just better and completely safe
She doesn't dole out damage like he can, but everything else is spot on.

it is a damn shame :(
 

M2Dave

Zoning Master
The character is good and is a problem for alot of the top characters.
I disagree. In my opinion, Noob loses to most of the top tier characters. I have been following the competitive Mortal Kombat 11 scene closely for the past four months and I honestly cannot recall the last time I saw a high level Noob player, as rare as they are now days, beat a competent Cassie, Geras, Sonya, etc. player. Perhaps Toxin at EVO? But there is a reason Chris G and Honey Bee switched to Scorpion and Cassie respectively.

As far as b+1,1+3 is concerned, the move is very good, but the top tier characters have much safer albeit less damaging options so their 9 frame mid strings are better.

I must have missed those. The only Noob I saw was a literal Noob and throwing raw teleports against an already blocked and turtling opponent.
I am certain Toxin received no stream time, at least for the round two matches and onward.
 

NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
I disagree. In my opinion, Noob loses to most of the top tier characters. I have been following the competitive Mortal Kombat 11 scene closely for the past four months and I honestly cannot recall the last time I saw a high level Noob player, as rare as they are now days, beat a competent Cassie, Geras, Sonya, etc. player. Perhaps Toxin at EVO? But there is a reason Chris G and Honey Bee switched to Scorpion and Cassie respectively.

As far as b+1,1+3 is concerned, the move is very good, but the top tier characters have much safer albeit less damaging options so their 9 frame mid strings are better.



I am certain Toxin received no stream time, at least for the round two matches and onward.
I personally think in the current state Cassie deletes Noob. 10-0 Cassie Cage.

However, I do not think the rest of the top of the cast can punish his b1, which lets him counter poke with b1 and create space. I don't think they really stop Noob from doing his things.
We can probably agree to disagree there. It is tough to say when great players do not use him.

I know you've moved on from him because he doesn't fit your style and that sucks tbh.

I think making b1 string safe would be a very big boon to him. I didn't at first but I was wrong.
 

Dante

Noob
There are no matchups that are that bad lol. If say in fact noob does better vs cassie than vs liu.
Also geras punishes b11+3 free
 

NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
There are no matchups that are that bad lol. If say in fact noob does better vs cassie than vs liu.
Also geras punishes b11+3 free
that right, f1 from Geras is 11 frames?

Cassie can literally just run away from Noob and he legit has no answer. LK actually has to play strike/throw against you. Cassie doesn't, and when she does.. her buttons are 10x that of Noobs.
 

M2Dave

Zoning Master
However, I do not think the rest of the top of the cast can punish his b1, which lets him counter poke with b1 and create space.
Well, b+1 is safe on block against every character, but I was referring to b+1,1+3, which cannot be hit-confirmed. Plenty of top tier characters punish b+1,1+3 on block when not performed at max range.

  • Cassie: dash f+2,1+3. Difficult.
  • Cetrion: dash f+2,3. Difficult.
  • Erron Black: fatal blow only. Very easy.
  • Geras: low sand trap. Very easy.
  • Jacqui: dash punch. Very easy.
  • Liu Kang: flying kick. Very easy.
  • Scorpion: b+2 xx MB teleport. Very easy.
  • Shang Tsung: MB ground eruption. Very easy.
 

NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
Well, b+1 is safe on block against every character, but I was referring to b+1,1+3, which cannot be hit-confirmed. Plenty of top tier characters punish b+1,1+3 on block when not performed at max range.

  • Cassie: dash f+2,1+3. Difficult.
  • Cetrion: dash f+2,3. Difficult.
  • Erron Black: fatal blow only. Very easy.
  • Geras: low sand trap. Very easy.
  • Jacqui: dash punch. Very easy.
  • Liu Kang: flying kick. Very easy.
  • Scorpion: b+2 xx MB teleport. Very easy.
  • Shang Tsung: MB ground eruption. Very easy.
you learned me the top 2 punishes there, so thanks for that.