Soul Calibur 6: THE SOUL STILL BURNS!

[JBeezYBabY]

I'll revisit this next week. Until then, Uncle JBeezY needs that Amy tech por favor!

 

[Eldagrin]

I think the only change I really dislike this patch is the fact that a successful GI makes you lose guard stamina. It has made guard damage characters like Mi-Na, NM, Groh, and Sieg feel so oppressive.

The RE change and GIs costing more on whiff +being more negative on whiff was fine, but losing like 8% guard stamina for successfully GIing was a terrible change and I hope they revert that part.

 

[SaSSolino]

I think the only change I really dislike this patch is the fact that a successful GI makes you lose guard stamina. It has made guard damage characters like Mi-Na, NM, Groh, and Sieg feel so oppressive.

The RE change and GIs costing more on whiff +being more negative on whiff was fine, but losing like 8% guard stamina for successfully GIing was a terrible change and I hope they revert that part.

Didn't even know they did that, regardless GIs are extremely powerful and easy to use, so I welcome that change. Although I would prefer if they'd just reduce the active frames window to 6 frames instead of 12.

 

[Eldagrin]

Didn't even know they did that, regardless GIs are extremely powerful and easy to use, so I welcome that change. Although I would prefer if they'd just reduce the active frames window to 6 frames instead of 12.

I agree, the active frames are too long, the problem is a patch where Mi-Na was supposed to be nerfed overall buffed her because she can break your guard round one now, same for Sieg and Groh.

 

[Eldagrin]

Man, PartyWolf dropped Kilik for Tira and Mi-Na after the latest patch, he’s doing well with Tira, too. He thinks Kilik doesn’t do very well in the new guard crushing focused metagame that is developing compared to the old turn stealing GI meta. I’m curious to see if his opinion changes as the meta develops.

 

[JBeezYBabY]

I agree, the active frames are too long, the problem is a patch where Mi-Na was supposed to be nerfed overall buffed her because she can break your guard round one now, same for Sieg and Groh.

And those are the characters Ive used lol. Ooooo just wait till i get back on this game next week

 

[SaSSolino]

Man, PartyWolf dropped Kilik for Tira and Mi-Na after the latest patch, he’s doing well with Tira, too. He thinks Kilik doesn’t do very well in the new guard crushing focused metagame that is developing compared to the old turn stealing GI meta. I’m curious to see if his opinion changes as the meta develops.

That almost makes me want to come back. I've always said that a nerf to GIs would be a nerf to Kilik after all so I do feel pretty smart, that said he got some absurd buffs in the lastest patch too though, so he still seems top tier to me.

 

[Eldagrin]

That almost makes me want to come back. I've always said that a nerf to GIs would be a nerf to Kilik after all so I do feel pretty smart, that said he got some absurd buffs in the lastest patch too though, so he still seems top tier to me.

I think he still has all of the tools of a very good character, the very worst he’ll be high mid or low high

 

[Eldagrin]

Okay, so I watched a high level Talim vs. Nightmare and they were breaking each other’s guards 2+ times a game, it was absurd.

 

[SaSSolino]

Okay, so I watched a high level Talim vs. Nightmare and they were breaking each other’s guards 2+ times a game, it was absurd.

I haven't been playing SC6 lately so I legit I don't know, but can't they just stop using GIs and REs if they don't want their guard to be broken?

 

[Eldagrin]

I haven't been playing SC6 lately so I legit I don't know, but can't they just stop using GIs and REs if they don't want their guard to be broken?

If you don’t GI some of Talim’s stuff as NM you just get run all over by her Sas. Also, GI and RE used to restore guard stamina, now that those sources of stamina restore are completely gone, guard damage has increased a lot, whether you GI/RE or not.

 

[SaSSolino]

If you don’t GI some of Talim’s stuff as NM you just get run all over by her Sas. Also, GI and RE used to restore guard stamina, now that those sources of stamina restore are completely gone, guard damage has increased a lot, whether you GI/RE or not.

I've been on the receiving end of Talim pressure with an i14 before with Azwel. It's hard but there are ways out.

Use GIs only when absolutely necessary and with Nightmare's range and damage I'd say it's not even that bad of a MU.

 

[Eldagrin]

I've been on the receiving end of Talim pressure with an i14 before with Azwel. It's hard but there are ways out.

Use GIs only when absolutely necessary and with Nightmare's range and damage I'd say it's not even that bad of a MU.

I’m not saying it’s a bad MU, I’m saying the amount of guard damage people are being forced to take with little ways to recover it vs certain characters (Mi-Na, Groh, Talim, NM, Sieg, etc.) is way too much post GI nerf. I just want GIs to not cost stamina if you successfully GI, I like every other change they made.

 

[SaSSolino]

I’m not saying it’s a bad MU, I’m saying the amount of guard damage people are being forced to take with little ways to recover it vs certain characters (Mi-Na, Groh, Talim, NM, Sieg, etc.) is way too much post GI nerf. I just want GIs to not cost stamina if you successfully GI, I like every other change they made.

I'm 50/50 on the matter personally. On one hand I agree with you, but on the other I seriously belive GIs were absurdly powerful pre patch.

 

[Eldagrin]

I'm 50/50 on the matter personally. On one hand I agree with you, but on the other I seriously belive GIs were absurdly powerful pre patch.

I agree that they were seriously strong, but the meta has totally shifted from too much GI to “don’t GI at all or you lose 8% guard stamina if you’re right”

 

[Eldagrin]

Well, now that the MK11 beta is ending, anyone want some games on SC6? If you’re on PS4, that is.

 

[SaSSolino]

If you’re on PS4, that is.

 

[Eldagrin]

It’s okay, I don’t fight tier whores and Azwel just won a tournament

 

[SaSSolino]

It’s okay, I don’t fight tier whores and Azwel just won a tournament

Do you have a link to the stream?

 

[Eldagrin]

Do you have a link to the stream?

I’ll go look for it and post it, it was a fairly good tourney, I was surprised that Azwel won, but the commentators (Spooky and Chen) acted like Azwel was a great character still after all of his nerfs and that he didn’t need the buffs he got. Which was just lol.

 

[Eldagrin]

I can’t find the stream I watched it on live, and Team Spooky has uploaded vods of basically every DBFZ and Tekken 7 Pools match online, but not even the Grand Finals of SC6, I’ll keep looking though, Bluegod’s Azwel vs linkorz’s Geralt was entertaining.

 

[Eldagrin]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/404356113

This should be the GF match of NCR.

 

[SaSSolino]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/404356113

This should be the GF match of NCR.

I was ready to complain on how people don't know the MU (which is true, nobody knows the Azwel MU for some reason, even at top levels), but dude this guy is just Godlike. This guy made me humble. This guy inspired me.

I still don't get why Azwel players use B6 though. It's an i22 vertical high that's minus on block. There's probably something I don't know.

 

[Eldagrin]

I was ready to complain on how people don't know the MU (which is true, nobody knows the Azwel MU for some reason, even at top levels), but dude this guy is just Godlike. This guy made me humble. This guy inspired me.

I still don't get why Azwel players use B6 though. It's an i22 vertical high that's minus on block. There's probably something I don't know.

Yeah, linkorz doesn’t really play the Azwel MU that much, but I was genuinely impressed with Bluegod.

 

[SaSSolino]

Yeah, linkorz doesn’t really play the Azwel MU that much, but I was genuinely impressed with Bluegod.

Last time I saw him (or anyone for that matters) I could see that he lacked MU experience, but this time I just think Bluegod outplayed him. I'm seriously impressed.