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Second Saint

Second Saint

A man with too many names.
I'm enjoying Jade, but I don't know if I'd enjoy the default variations much. Having Pole Vault, but no staff normals sounds less than ideal to me.
 
NeroOps

NeroOps

Death Before Dishonor
Second Saint said:
Ok, but that's not a percent is ehat I'm getting at.
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Well when it comes to fighting games people usually use "damage percentage" of an attack/combo even if it has a decimal point. I get what you're saying tho the percentage symbol shouldn't be there if i used the decimal point. I don't get why you had to point that out but thanks for the correction i guess.
 
THTB

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
Second Saint said:
I know. It said 255% damage. She's not killing people 2 and a half times over, so I made a joke, and apparently no one gets it or, more likely, math pedantry isn't funny.
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I caught that, but I didn't know if that's what you were referring to lol.
 
HeavyNorse

HeavyNorse

#BlackLivesMatter
So, Jade is a lot of fun to play!
However, I wish she got a liiiiiiittle bit more combo potential. I know she's not supposed to be a combo character, but I'd like a liiiiittle bit more. Just a liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittle bit more. Maybe just one more launcher. I dunno how it would fit in or how they would do it, but that's what I'd like.

Why?
Because I don't play her as a zoner. I know she's got some good tools for zoning, but she also got tools that makes her fun to play as rushdown. Thing is, once you're in, she doesn't have that much she can do. She's very unsafe when you're closer, even at mid-range, which should've been one of her stronger points from what I could gather from the Kombat Kast. Also, her damage output is a bit on the low end. And that's a shame, imo.

That said, I have so much fun with her. I lose a lot, but my skill-level isn't all that high. I like playing footsies though, and because of Jade's range with her staff and her quick Blazing Nitro Kick (btw, I LOVE that they used the MKD names for her moves) and her new Deadly Butterfly move, she's good at punishing whiffs. But because I'm nowhere near being a good player, my opponents hit me instead of whiffing me most of the time... and I tend to do the whiffing. XD

It's a learning process and this is the first time I got my hands on the game, so I'm still just getting to know the game and the characters... well, those who're in the beta, that is. ^^

I've seen a handful of other people calling Jade boring, and I can see why. Zoning isn't everyone's cup of tea, and though that's one of her stronger tools, there are other characters who easily out-zone her and can punish Jade's zoning, like Kabal and Skarlet, if they have the right loadout. I definitely feel like I'm having an easier time playing against Baraka and Scorpion so far. If I start zoning too hard, Scorpion tends to fuck me up though, but I guess that's because of the whole rock-paper-scissors match-ups. He's got tools to punish zoners, so I'm trying not to do that too much against him, but he's dangerous up close, so I need to practice being mid-range more with Jade.

That's my experience so far. I played Skarlet a bit in the tower, but not a whole lot. Been mostly focusing on Jade. I still intend to main as Jade, but because I choose not to focus on zoning so much, I am just making it harder on myself. But that's alright, I'm having fun. ♥
 
Flawless2

Flawless2

Noob
Id like to see her dash cover more area. Not sure how it is with the others but hers seems slower and covers less ground to me than walking forward.
 
Wigy

Wigy

There it is...
Skarlets neutral is just as good if not better, she gets more damage. I will be amazed if f21 doesn't become special cancelable and some more launch potential added in the real game. Reflect is a waste of space as is the low staff smacks. You loose your only launcher for a legitimately pointless slot. You may as well take the low projectile.

Also how the fuck do you stop close range jump ins with Kabal, my d2 getting beat out on reads. You genuinely need to be mashing on read to beat it. Subzero mkx flashbacks
 
MkPeezy

MkPeezy

Unicorn Papi
I was randomly thinking Jade is a zoner but has mediocre zoning tools compared to some of the cast...Scarlet in beta and from yesterdays KK Lui Kang (his fireball speed is insane). If she stays the same it might be a rough time for Jade mains in the zoning battle but its super early so we shall see. Just a thought for discussion.
 
ChatterBox

ChatterBox

Searching for an alt.
So I've seen peiple in YouTube videos whiff b343 but I've never had it happen, after whiffing b3 nothing else comes out. Which one is right? Am I just messing the input up that often?
 
vegeta

vegeta

Saiyan Prince
She is the 2nd character I tried and a candidate for my secondary. Tried her today. Love her first variant and used it. Fought a Kabal and I admit it was a rough matchup since he's got the dash which shut down a lot of my attempted zoning. BUT...........the dude switched to baraka after beating me 3 in a row and I trashed him bad, I was about to get win #2 and he rage quit on me during my Fatal Blow Animation lol. Dude's name was I-Got-Skills or something.

I can see where she may suffer a bit since mid screen combo/damage wise she has nothing fantastic. Against a skarlet I won the zone war largely because my opponents projectiles didn't affect me haha
 
Kal

Kal

<3
GLoRToR said:
I never said I wanted her to have plus frames. I said her current frames are not impressive.
She has no 6f move, not even her d1 which can potentially mean that in certain cases she might not get out of pressure.
See the conditional there? Because it's Beta and we don't yet know.
Beta, because we were supposed to say what we think could possibly be a problem for a character.
Like f2 whiffing within its own hitbox.

Her damage being lower than others is a FACT.
I never cried to have her for 6 years, I waited.
I never cried that she's awful, I pointed at exact things that I thought might be a problem.
I don't want her to be brokentier because that means more nerfs down the line.
I want her to be competitive, not just viable but excellent but in the sweet spot where she does not need destructive nerfs.

If you can't read why use a forum let alone be a moderator in one?

Thanks for indirectly insulting me without putting my name there, professional as always.
Let's get personal then.
You fully deserve your moderator rights on this forum as a top tier human being.

If you stopped being such a hostile piece of work and looked at people's intentions maybe you wouldn't come off as such a jerk.

Like when you straight up insulted me in the TYM discord.

EDIT: You joined this forum during when? Injustice 1? MKX? You never played mk9 Jade, you have no idea what it felt to be bottom tier against MK9 Kabal and Cyrax so how about you shut the hell up with your hostile attitude, dude.
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Have my babies.
 
Second Saint

Second Saint

A man with too many names.
NeroOps said:
Well when it comes to fighting games people usually use "damage percentage" of an attack/combo even if it has a decimal point. I get what you're saying tho the percentage symbol shouldn't be there if i used the decimal point. I don't get why you had to point that out but thanks for the correction i guess.
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I feel like I must've come off much harsher and judgmental than intended, for which I apologize.

I've almost never seen anyone post damage as a percent, and I found it amusing, while not having any real problem with your contribution. I could've communicated that more clearly.

Orochi said:
What a nerd.
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You are...not wrong. I'm the only person I'm aware of on this site to ever break down a mechanic mathematically and post charts on how it scaled as far as I'm aware.
 
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