Is Injustice 2 Dead & Killing The Scene?

[HeroesNZ]

During MKX people liked to preach that the only reason they were losing was because they were getting mixed by no neutral run-up 50/50s into frame 0 armoured launchers. I2 delivered everything everyone was begging for except for decent music and now it's supposedly killing the scene and the people who were losing in MKX are surprise surprise, still losing.

NRS are actually giving us what we ask for. We wanted a better online, less 50/50s, no fast-ass armoured launchers and a more neutral-heavy game. They gave us that in MKX with the final patch but people said it was too late and were already preaching when's i2.

I2 comes out now and people are still complaining even though it's the neutral-heavy game everyone was begging for. And now it's apparently killing the scene. Well what the fuck are you guys looking for? Just say you get bored of games quickly and move on with your life.

If you're in the scene for MK then go play MKX - with like 10000 variations it's not even like that game is fully fleshed out yet. If you don't wanna play either game then you're living in the rose-tinted past and probably won't like the next game either.

 

[JBeezYBabY]

They don't stick with the SCENE that's my whole point. If you don't like the game don't play it, don't be negative to only be negative. IF YOU LOVE MK PLAY MKX don't shit on INJ2 and spew nonsense that are pretty much false. JUST GO AWAY

Exactly. Thats what I'm saying. People don't stick to the scene because they don't like Injustice and thats why this place is damn near empty.

We just need a new game not because of the cycle, cuz clearly this game didn't even make the 2 year mark. We need a new game to bring passion and excitement back into the scene. Injustice 2 clearly does not bring that anymore. Thats not being negative or talking shit. Thats talking FACTS! Look around brotha

 

[God Confirm]

ITT "your subjective opinion of the game just mirror my own or it's COMPLETELY INVALID"

 

[KHTC Takgillo]

Exactly. Thats what I'm saying. People don't stick to the scene because they don't like Injustice and thats why this place is damn near empty.

We just need a new game not because of the cycle, cuz clearly this game didn't even make the 2 year mark. We need a new game to bring passion and excitement back into the scene. Injustice 2 clearly does not bring that anymore.

This isn't why TYM is empty we all know that, SRk is empty, dreamcancel is empty. Forums are just dying that's the reason.

No game ever make the 2 years mark after year 1 when the DLC are over the games are over. Unless the members of the community who just game hop every 2 years while complaining about the game they were swearing by 2 years before(when's inj2) are culled out it will always be the same. We would lose a lot of people but at this point I think it would be better to start over as a small community and grow without the poison.

 

[JBeezYBabY]

During MKX people liked to preach that the only reason they were losing was because they were getting mixed by no neutral run-up 50/50s into frame 0 armoured launchers. I2 delivered everything everyone was begging for except for decent music and now it's supposedly killing the scene and the people who were losing in MKX are surprise surprise, still losing.

NRS are actually giving us what we ask for. We wanted a better online, less 50/50s, no fast-ass armoured launchers and a more neutral-heavy game. They gave us that in MKX with the final patch but people said it was too late and were already preaching when's i2.

I2 comes out now and people are still complaining even though it's the neutral-heavy game everyone was begging for. And now it's apparently killing the scene. Well what the fuck are you guys looking for? Just say you get bored of games quickly and move on with your life.

If you're in the scene for MK then go play MKX - with like 10000 variations it's not even like that game is fully fleshed out yet. If you don't wanna play either game then you're living in the rose-tinted past and probably won't like the next game either.

I haven't been around the MKX days nor really got into that game to know that time. If thats the case, its attitude's and the game.

But from what I have been seeing, MK9 was the golden ages of the competitive NRS scene but no game has come close to bringing the love of MK9. That game seems to be the high expectation that others are holding future NRS games too.

 

[God Confirm]

I2 sucks, but TYM is dying thanks to a number of factors

 

[JBeezYBabY]

This isn't why TYM is empty we all know that, SRk is empty, dreamcancel is empty. Forums are just dying that's the reason.

No game ever make the 2 years mark after year 1 when the DLC are over the games are over. Unless the members of the community who just game hop every 2 years while complaining about the game they were swearing by 2 years before(when's inj2) are culled out it will always be the same. We would lose a lot of people but at this point I think it would be better to start over as a small community and grow without the poison.

WTF are you smoking!? Ummm Smash Bros, Killer Instinct is still kicking, King Of Fighters series, choose one

 

[KHTC Takgillo]

WTF are you smoking!? Ummm Smash Bros, Killer Instinct is still kicking, King Of Fighters series, choose one

I was talking about NRS games

 

[JBeezYBabY]

I was talking about NRS games

Specify next time, please. Thanks. But i get it. Point blank period....we just need a new game, unless YOU want to start a new scene for people who solely still love Injustice, then good luck.

I'm not about that marginalizing shit that will divide us even more.

 

[KHTC Takgillo]

Specify next time, please. Thanks. But i get it. Point blank period....we just need a new game, unless YOU want to start a new scene for people who solely still love Injustice, then good luck.

I'm not about that marginalizing shit that will divide us even more.

Let's be honest us being together never work it's just 1 year then we're divided. Our scene will never be stable as long as this keeps happening and it will keep happening until people just get that they can just stop playing a game and just leave it be. The cycle is too ingrained in some people, you don't need 1 year to see If you like a game because the main meta never change too much despite any amount of patches it just gets refined (in Mkx it staid 50/50 and armor). At some point you have to just leave and not interact with the community that loves what you hate. Keeping them is not good for anyone

 

[HeroesNZ]

I haven't been around the MKX days nor really got into that game to know that time. If thats the case, its attitude's and the game.

But from what I have been seeing, MK9 was the golden ages of the competitive NRS scene but no game has come close to bringing the love of MK9. That game seems to be the high expectation that others are holding future NRS games to.

MK9 was like the big bang for the current NRS scene. All it was was grassroots and locals, people playing for pride instead of money. It was many people's first real fighting game so it's viewed with rose-tinted goggles, same with injustice 1. But make no mistake if those games were released today they would be crucified and dropped by Monday.

The scene was much smaller back then too so it seems better but in actual fact, the true golden age of the NRS scene in terms of viewership and entries was MKX. And it's a given that the scene would drop in numbers after MKX because the Injustice franchise is just nowhere near as popular as the iconic Mortal Kombat. But that doesn't mean it's killing the scene, how could you expect it to keep up with MK's numbers? It is what it is, the mentality of players however is a problem. Those that choose to shit on i2 instead of just playing another game. No one's forcing you to stick around.

Perhaps it's also a result of the lack of MKX support. The scene has become so E-Sports now, chasing the big money that no one cares about some baby pot for MKX if it even makes it into a tournament. So people don't play because they've become used to playing for big money. Perhaps if there were more tournaments like Viennality that ran both games there'd be less i2 hate.

But regardless, being around since MK9 has created perspective - NRS have genuinely improved with every game. And if I were them I'd say fuck all of you we asked you what you wanted, gave it to you and you still didn't like it so now you'll get what you're given.

 

[God Confirm]

And if I were them I'd say fuck all of you we asked you what you wanted, gave it to you and you still didn't like it so now you'll get what you're given.

Yeah we were all begging for Hellboy in our Season Pass, and for Raiden and Sub Zero to be copy pasted across with even less options.

Didn't see any demand for characters like Spawn or anything. Upcoming Hellboy IP complete coincidence of course.

I get what you're saying about gameplay and I know this isnt what you were saying but the DLC for this game has been garbage and what they did with people's money was use it to sell more advertising to them. Last time I never buy a season pass from NRS and that sentiment is common even among fans of I2

 

[HeroesNZ]

Yeah we were all begging for Hellboy in our Season Pass, and for Raiden and Sub Zero to be copy pasted across with even less options.

Didn't see any demand for characters like Spawn or anything. Upcoming Hellboy IP complete coincidence of course.

I get what you're saying about gameplay and I know this isnt what you were saying but the DLC for this game has been garbage and what they did with people's money was use it to sell more advertising to them. Last time I never buy a season pass from NRS and that sentiment is common even among fans of I2

Yeah ofc they've got a lot of shit to work on:
- DLC
- Communication
- E-Sports pay
- Music
- Pro League circuits and how the rest of the world gets shafted

Etc... But in regards to gameplay they're listening, which is what I'm talking about. And don't get me wrong the gameplay's far from my idea of perfect too but it's getting better.

 

[Saltea Moonspell]

I see it like that: Injustice is a nice game, overall better balanced, then rest of NRS games.

But we all know it, that MK is the game that ignite the love, passion and bloody competition desire.

I remember days, when all we did every week was playing MK9/MKX like crazy. We were drinking, smoking, doing lines longer then Roof Top stage... If you know what I mean, and it was endless. Endless local tournaments and the the whole scene and drama shit that was going in US.

Its like, wine is good and we like it, but sooner or later you are going to want and drink that Bourbon, anyway, because we damn love it bad.

 

[Saboteur-6]

I like how the narrative somehow has become that "Because TYM users are down, Injustice 2 is dying." It's ridiculously short sighted because they aren't contingent on one another. There's a lot of layers involved in talking about the state of TYM and what constitutes an "active community". People talking about "scenes" are usually referencing offline gatherings/tournaments but internet tournaments and online multiplayer thanks to better internet connectivity and ease of access is a HUGE deal. Similarly, having a central hub website like TYM function as the primary form of online communication between "the community" has changed drastically because of the popularity of social media and streaming sites.

The "scene" is evolving, the "community" is changing. None of this means that Injustice 2 is to blame or that Injustice 2 is dead.

 

[JBeezYBabY]

I like how the narrative somehow has become that "Because TYM users are down, Injustice 2 is dying." It's ridiculously short sighted because they aren't contingent on one another. There's a lot of layers involved in talking about the state of TYM and what constitutes an "active community". People talking about "scenes" are usually referencing offline gatherings/tournaments but internet tournaments thanks to better internet connectivity and ease of access is a HUGE deal. Similarly, having a central hub website like TYM function as the primary form of online communication between "the community" has changed drastically because of the popularity of social media and streaming sites.

The "scene" is evolving, the "community" is changing. None of this means that Injustice 2 is to blame or that Injustice 2 is dead.

Sooo what you're saying the NRS scene is perfectly fine where it's at now ?Question mark?

 

[Saboteur-6]

Sooo what you're saying the NRS scene is perfectly fine where it's at now ?Question mark?

Don't put words in my mouth. My point is that you're making broad stroke generalizations to support a position and using a false equivalence to do so.

Low TYM use does not mean "the scene is dying".

 

[JBeezYBabY]

Don't put words in my mouth. My point is that you're making broad stroke generalizations to support a position and using a false equivalence to do so.

Low TYM use does not mean "the scene is dying".

*SIGH* I literally can't with this whole statement...Live in your bubble, sir. Have a good day.

 

[Saboteur-6]

*SIGH* I literally can't with this whole statement...Live in your bubble, sir. Have a good day.

You can't what? Support your point? Agreed.

 

[JBeezYBabY]

You can't what? Support your point? Agreed.

Who's putting words in who's mouth now?

 

[Ram]

@JBeezYBabY @Saboteur-6

 

[Saboteur-6]

Who's putting words in who's mouth now?

Then prove me wrong instead of being dismissive because I challenged your logic.

 

[KingHippo]

If you base the health of the community on TYM that's ridiculous, there's like twenty people here and the majority of it is your shitposting lol

Most of the people who attend the tournaments and buy the game don't come here, this is a niche site for highly involved enthusiasts. Nothing wrong with that, but let's call a spade a spade

 

[Cobainevermind87]

I come here daily hoping to see something about an MK release Or anything MK-related really.

 

[xInfra Deadx]

Pot meet kettle.