Dragon Ball FighterZ Discussion Thread (Game)

[G11OST]

Lets keep it ALL THE WAY LIVE, do anybody REALLY plan on maining these two in their main team ?Question mark?

Buu 2 Da Future (kid, trunks, bardock)
Planned on maining this team since game was announced. So happy they all made it.

I AM a little salty tho, I thought my old team had no synergy but this team.. damn.. hard life. I know with enough work I'll eventually get them to click (a little) but the garbage I c with bardock doing multiple supers with beam or vegeta assist makes me cringe every time. Like, "TEAM U CAN DO THAT TOO", na we can't bruh, mofos. Really hope in the future if they have an expansion we will be able to pick from 2 assists per character.

Eventually, we will change the future, I'm stuck in the lab until then grinding

 

[Sultani]

That takes 4 bars of meter to pull off tho...

Again, only if you relaunch. You dont have to relaunch. Just do 2M5M xx level 1 after the dash instead if you dont want to spend the extra meter... you dont really sacrifice all that much damage.

 

[Sultani]

so what does bardock do?

Hes vegyamcha

 

[EntropicByDesign]

ToD ?Question mark?

touch of death = one hit kill combos

 

[Osagri]

ToD ?Question mark?

Touch of death

 

[Tanno]

I knew how to summon him I wasn't trying to do it until the last 2 balls, the thing was there was a time limit to pick the options and it confused me cuz I play on keyboard and my buttons are mapped all over the place. Maybe I need to do all the tutorials again lol

lol

Maybe you need to remap your buttons before you mess this up again. xD

ToD ?Question mark?

Touch of Death. In short, it's this video as example...

 

[God Confirm]

Bardock is a faster version of Yamcha with a launcher basically. I mean, he can convert off ALOT of stuff into any damn super, which is nice. But that lack of projectile is a HUGE flaw. He needs a beam assist character to move in.

His combos are quite unique but at the end of the day, if your neutral sucks ball sack, you can't even land a hit to show off everything you "labbed." right?

i played around with him in lab, not seeing what he has in common with yamcha

 

[God Confirm]

bardock seems like vegeta without the barrages or assist , but i guess im missing something

 

[Tanno]

IMO, Bardock is like Yamcha and premature Goku.

 

[JBeezYBabY]

i played around with him in lab, not seeing what he has in common with yamcha

His normals feels awkward like Yamcha's. For example, his 2M into the 5M jump combos have a slight delay and it feels weird. Same with Bardock. Its so offbeat, sometimes i get his overhead M instead of his jump medium. It just throws me off a bit. His assist is basically like Yamcha's except its only one hit but serves the same purpose as Yamcha's which is a straight forward, grounded combo extension.

 

[villainous monk]

Honestly....*sigh*....ive learned not to go online with day one new characters lol. So lost with both of these two cuz either of them fit on my team. I would have to create a brand new team and start from ground 0. I really do NOT want to do that, therfor, im kinda un-interested into really labbing with these two too much.

Combos are great n shit, but the NEUTRAL is what really is important in this game to even land those combos. I can see Bardock struggling to land a hit, and even Broly has awesome armored attacks, hes not even remotely close to mobile as 16.

Lets keep it ALL THE WAY LIVE, do anybody REALLY plan on maining these two in their main team ?Question mark?

I think Broly is close to 16 level. But then it's how you pick either character to have the best synergy with your team. I do feel like he's missing something has a real threat though.

I plan to use him with 21, black this weekend but I personally think he's better off with beam character on his team right now since I think he needs help more then he can help teams. I was also thinking Kakarot and trunks since I had success with that team last night.





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[God Confirm]

His normals feels awkward like Yamcha's. For example, his 2M into the 5M jump combos have a slight delay and it feels weird. Same with Bardock. Its so offbeat, sometimes i get his overhead M instead of his jump medium. It just throws me off a bit. His assist is basically like Yamcha's except its only one hit but serves the same purpose as Yamcha's which is a straight forward, grounded combo extension.

well i was asking what he does, like what his strengths and weaknesses are.

 

[G11OST]

well i was asking what he does, like what his strengths and weaknesses are.

So my day 1 thoughts...

Pressure / mixup heavy with great buttons.
Has good hitbox on both Air L and H for jump ins. Air M is a 2 hit which can be canceled at anytime as well. Matched with his quick lows and spins that end up with oh's, he's just getting started. His L tackle is safe on block, and his M tackle can cross up paired with an assist. Can convert damage from any hit, made even easier with a superior L auto combo that has above average tracking. His strength is defiantly sticking on the opponent and laying down the hurt. His weakness is range, but he also has a couple of answers for this. Covered with an assist he can quickly close in with a far reaching spin, tackle, or super tackle.

As far as teams goes, he seems more of a point character due to a mediocre assist and range, and also the possibility of extending supers with assist when on point if built for it. I run him anchor tho.... lol

Overall he feels like a sayian version of piccolo to me, combined with a little bit of teen gohan cuz of the way he needs to stay on the opponent.

 

[God Confirm]

So my day 1 thoughts...

Pressure / mixup heavy with great buttons.
Has good hitbox on both Air L and H for jump ins. Air M is a 2 hit which can be canceled at anytime as well. Matched with his quick lows and spins that end up with oh's, he's just getting started. His L tackle is safe on block, and his M tackle can cross up paired with an assist. Can convert damage from any hit, made even easier with a superior L auto combo that has above average tracking. His strength is defiantly sticking on the opponent and laying down the hurt. His weakness is range, but he also has a couple of answers for this. Covered with an assist he can quickly close in with a far reaching spin, tackle, or super tackle.

As far as teams goes, he seems more of a point character due to a mediocre assist and range, and also the possibility of extending supers with assist when on point if built for it. I run him anchor tho.... lol

Overall he feels like a sayian version of piccolo to me, combined with a little bit of teen gohan cuz of the way he needs to stay on the opponent.

thanks man, exactly what i was looking for

 

[Sultani]

Might be playing in the local monthly this weekend. We'll see how that goes.

Of course broly is better with a beam character. P sure everyone is.

 

[BurdaA]

Rooflemonger breakdown of what has armour and how much:

Gorramn j.M!?!

Infinite hits on 236L/M/H!?!

236M is kinda ridiculous... be aware tho, if you armour through beam and they cancel into super, you’re dicked. It’s also punishable on block at any range by Vegeta’s 2L.

 

[BurdaA]

Lol he’s too tall when standing to true iad over. Obviously slightly delaying dash still works...

 

[Tokiwartoothxdk]

I think its pretty dumb how Broly's Lvl1 doesnt act like it does in the auto combo which makes it near impossible to hit people with it outsoude of the corner or assist supers hitting first

 

[TrulyAmiracle]

Sooo Broly’s mad fun, armoring through everything is hilarious and defnitely fills the hole that 16’s BS gave me since release.
Armoring through Vegeta’s stupid ass assist is a nice plus coz fuck Vegeta’s assist.

Lovin his assist too, it fits just fine instead of Piccolo’s so the transition has been solid for me.
Gotenks/Broly/Tien. Team small, medium, and large.. or team two Saiyans, one Ningen.
A 3rd saiyan wouldve been better but till Vegito or whoever gets added this’ll do coz all the other saiyans in the game blow.

 

[BurdaA]

Sooo Broly’s mad fun, armoring through everything is hilarious and defnitely fills the hole that 16’s BS gave me since release.
Armoring through Vegeta’s stupid ass assist is a nice plus coz fuck Vegeta’s assist.

Lovin his assist too, it fits just fine instead of Piccolo’s so the transition has been solid for me.
Gotenks/Broly/Tien. Team small, medium, and large.. or team two Saiyans, one Ningen....

Yeah dude, nice! I ‘member you saying you needed to love a dlc, glad it happened Broly’s hella fun, his armour is next level scary. Any team specific shenanigans yet?

A 3rd saiyan wouldve been better but till Vegito or whoever gets added this’ll do coz all the other saiyans in the game blow.

*cough* Nappa *cough* smell these fingers bro.

I’ve also forced myself to love ss Vegeta as I’m a fanboy....

 

[TakeAChance]

Finally got my hands on the dlc and no kids around tonight...

Liking Broly so far, just trying to figure out how to optimize him. Seems like he is dependent on teammates.

 

[TrulyAmiracle]

Yeah dude, nice! I ‘member you saying you needed to love a dlc, glad it happened Broly’s hella fun, his armour is next level scary. Any team specific shenanigans yet?



*cough* Nappa *cough* smell these fingers bro.

I’ve also forced myself to love ss Vegeta as I’m a fanboy....

Well you can do broly lvl1>tien lvl1 into another one but it’s super tight and finnicky coz the screen freezes in Broly’s super make it not work sometimes.

Doing Broly’s 236S+ gotenks assist makes it connect right after for +frames and broly gets pressure after, and on hit it pops them them up for an air combo, in the corner you can do slow lvl3 after it for big damage.
Gotenks assist also works during j.LM for Broly and he can get j.2H after it but dunno if that’s actually good or not.

Broly assist into gotenks j.6S can lead into left/right mixups and it’s great cover during blockstrings for shout fient stuff as well as tick throws. It’s nice for Tien too coz it comes in perfect timing to make volleyball side safe or cover his kneedrop special in blockstrings.
Broly’s assist is also an easy extend from 2M 5M j.MH midscreen for both characters.

Tien’s super is great for getting damage off of Broly’s j.214 special coz he can’t do that on his own.


Vegeta is too good atm for Broly to not use coz it extends from his derpy incoming setup and covering vanishes is crazy good when you slap it on his pressure with armor but I’d rather not play at all than use him.

For now though this team works for everything outside of covering vanishes but I’ll live. Having an armored low normal, command grab and even a projectile is just too funny and a lot of fun.

The Broly ToD is crazy too coz it’s so easy and Gotenks builds mad meter, you can start it with 5 bars. I’ve landed it twice already in ranked. Surprised they didn’t ragequit tbh.

 

[Sultani]

Surprisingly havent gotten alot of hatemail with this game... but i had to mention this one. I sat there looking at my screen with my palms up for like 3 minutes in complete disbelief.

Guys team was gohan cell goku black. He held up and back and then did SD to react to everything. Every single time he had the meter, he did bram assist, vanish, block string. Every time i hit him, he mashed SD. To the point where i was dropping combos on purpose just to punish him for doing it.

When the match ended... he sent me a message that said "flowchart player.. brain off."

I dont know if he was talking about himself or not. So confused.

 

[Juggs]

Surprisingly havent gotten alot of hatemail with this game... but i had to mention this one. I sat there looking at my screen with my palms up for like 3 minutes in complete disbelief.

Guys team was gohan cell goku black. He held up and back and then did SD to react to everything. Every single time he had the meter, he did bram assist, vanish, block string. Every time i hit him, he mashed SD. To the point where i was dropping combos on purpose just to punish him for doing it.

When the match ended... he sent me a message that said "flowchart player.. brain off."

I dont know if he was talking about himself or not. So confused.

Those are the best, he was 100% projecting. People use these terrible patterns that work against bad players (literally pretty much the definition of flowchart), then when it doesn’t work against a player not dumb enough to fall for it, they get super heated and claim YOU’RE the flowchart player. It’s super nutty.

 

[Johnny Based Cage]

I hope Sonic Fox sticks with Cell and Gotenks, I’m liking their synergy. I can take it or leave it with his Kid Buu though.