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EntropicByDesign

It's all so very confusing.
Yeah I figured it was coming. I just picked him up too, lol.

Actually not mad at all though. I feel like this is just plain good for the game, though I'm sorry to the guys running Nappa and such that really needed this assist to make him work his best..that shit sucks.. but maybe the takeaway will be that some of his flaws become more apparent and he gets some love at some point in the future. I dunno.

This gives me food for thought though. I actually like how Vegeta plays, and the assist still looks like it'll be useful. So do I keep him? Or run Kid? (Who is one of my day one mains and absolute favorite characters in the game) or do I try out Broly? - can't play BardyBard he's called by my buddy.
 

Sultani

Warrior
Hmm. Vegeta assist nerf really only makes it not so free to start pressure. Doesnt really hurt my setups or combos it seems.
 

EntropicByDesign

It's all so very confusing.
Hmm. Vegeta assist nerf really only makes it not so free to start pressure. Doesnt really hurt my setups or combos it seems.
Yeah judging by the duration, I'm.not sure this effects me that much.. in the case of my TG bomb loops the timing is actually already kinda tight.. and the pickup there isn't about how long it locks them down, mostly just catching them at the right angle.. I'll have to change the call timing but I don't think it'll stop it from working.

Hit assist useage is still fine as well, with him, again, it's not so much duration, it's just catching them at the right height. I can get a 5M out really faster after my opener, I just need them held in place a few extra frames to make sure it hits. So again, probably doesn't matter much here.

Where I'll see an effect is in raw neutral and blockstring use of course. The huge duration gives me so much time to mix and do TGohan shit lol.

This may be the excuse I need to go to Kid Buy and run team ''I can't land these combos"
 

BurdaA

Frost-Byte
Vegeta is your team... Vegeta is everybody's team. :DOGE
I know You need it:joker:. Everybody needs him.:DOGE
Tbh, I like the way ss Vegeta plays anyway. He’s got some fun layers, and I doubt his assist will be completely trash. Despite everyone having loads of mu familiarity he still has ludicrous comeback factor somehow. A lot of people I’ve played don’t seem to have invested time learning him, presumably including him for his assist only....

At least those guys will get of the Vegeta train :DOGE.
 
Nice! Thought you dropped Nappa a while back!

Sad times, but it’s w/e I guess...

I’ve been thinking about getting some Krillin. TGohan, Yamcha, Tien and Ginyu are candidates too. Vegeta will always be in the Team... we’ll see if it’s ss/ssb.
lol, I was going to but then I got good at your Saibamen setup. I adjusted to his neutral with his slow mediums by learning to put out my hitboxes pre-emptively. But yeah, without the easy Saibamen I get from that 1000+ frame blockstun assist I won't know what to do with Nappa. Then again maybe he'll get buffed.

Krillin after image shenanigans are fun. Also the small hurtbox helps deal with the now tidal wave of Adult Gohan pressure online.
 

iNoScopedJFK

Silent Salty Solider
As a SSGSS Vegeta point main I'm ok with the SS Vegeta assist nerf lol. They should take some of that Vegeta assist power they took away from SS Vegeta and give it to my SSGSS Vegeta.
 

Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
I heard about Vegeta assist being nerfed. Do we know when the patch notes regarding it are out?

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Johnny Based Cage

The Shangest of Tsungs
yeah, that's not what I was saying at all, and Aris is one of my favourite casters of all times, and I just named TastySteve as my favourite caster, so you are clearly missing the point here, nobody is claiming you need to be dropping frame data every second so let go of that strawman because wth is that shit lol. If you are entertained by a match of

"oh oh oh oh

oh oh oh oh ooo

oh oh oh oh my godness

oh oh oh"



then thats fine, but don't try to pretend like its some high quality casting that's is flying over peoples heads here. I didn't say everyone who likes him must have small minds, I even outright said its personal taste and everyone can like who they do, my first post asked WHY people like him and I was waiting for answers, I didn't call anyone small minded except for the one guy who took the time to respond with a sentence of some corny shit mocking the opinion but who still couldn't even give an explanation when he did, and i said that he right there just looks like an example of small minds being easily entertained. Now you're the one calling me small minded for asking a question, I like you a lot but you gotta take a step back a little here and chill out and see that I'm not calling out fans of the guy in any way
Man, y’all gotta stop taking me so seriously lol. Don’t conflate me being trolly/tongue-in-cheek 90% of the time with actually laying down a legit argument, especially in matters of opinion like this when there really is no argument to be made.

On a serious note though, when I think of Yipes’ commentary what comes to mind is hilarity, from the references to his interactions with the players and so on. I don’t even recall any “oh x20” moments whether or not he actually does it often; it just doesn’t stick with me if so. He’s also got a very distinctly NYC vibe and I’m from there so maybe there’s that bias too, idk.

Either way there’s plenty of good commentary for this game no matter what’s your flavor so cheers to that!
 
Has anyone else ran into the "I know I was blocking but I didn't block" issue that was a thing a while back

I swear it just happened to me in a match. When it happened I made a note of the time, went back to the replay and put the controls on.


I'm getting hit, I'm holding 3 and H so I'll tech and get up blocking low.

Somewhere between the 3 and 4 second mark the game is like "you're actually now rappidly going from down, down back, back, repeatedly and pressing Special and Heavy" like the control reading is just spazzing. And I get hit on wakeup when on my controller I'm just calmly holding down back (may or may not have released heavy at that point but I was holding it from the tech not pressing it anytime thereafter)
 

BurdaA

Frost-Byte
lol, I was going to but then I got good at your Saibamen setup. I adjusted to his neutral with his slow mediums by learning to put out my hitboxes pre-emptively. But yeah, without the easy Saibamen I get from that 1000+ frame blockstun assist I won't know what to do with Nappa. Then again maybe he'll get buffed.

Krillin after image shenanigans are fun. Also the small hurtbox helps deal with the now tidal wave of Adult Gohan pressure online.
:) Glad they helped dude

You’re bang on about pre-empting/spacing with his normals, they’re slow but have decent range. It’s amazing how often I go for a setup and 5M catches them walking backwards....

Yeah I’m hoping he’ll get more armour or dami, armoured saiba from 236H? All of the above?

Smoke bomb
 

BurdaA

Frost-Byte
Has anyone else ran into the "I know I was blocking but I didn't block" issue that was a thing a while back

I swear it just happened to me in a match. When it happened I made a note of the time, went back to the replay and put the controls on.


I'm getting hit, I'm holding 3 and H so I'll tech and get up blocking low.

Somewhere between the 3 and 4 second mark the game is like "you're actually now rappidly going from down, down back, back, repeatedly and pressing Special and Heavy" like the control reading is just spazzing. And I get hit on wakeup when on my controller I'm just calmly holding down back (may or may not have released heavy at that point but I was holding it from the tech not pressing it anytime thereafter)
Happens loads. Haven’t posted anything because just like yours the controls say I’m having a quantum-finger-spasm.
 

Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
Has anyone else ran into the "I know I was blocking but I didn't block" issue that was a thing a while back

I swear it just happened to me in a match. When it happened I made a note of the time, went back to the replay and put the controls on.


I'm getting hit, I'm holding 3 and H so I'll tech and get up blocking low.

Somewhere between the 3 and 4 second mark the game is like "you're actually now rappidly going from down, down back, back, repeatedly and pressing Special and Heavy" like the control reading is just spazzing. And I get hit on wakeup when on my controller I'm just calmly holding down back (may or may not have released heavy at that point but I was holding it from the tech not pressing it anytime thereafter)
If you had gotten rid of the right button column, I would see clearly what's going on. I could barely see that you stood up, and at the same time this A.Gohan dude did a 2M on you. Maybe there's an input lag there not registering you as blocking. Same shit happened to me.

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EntropicByDesign

It's all so very confusing.
PC Player. I'm awake and home like a human during the day.

If anyone wants sets, hit me up. PC - NA - East/Central (ky)

@ me here or hit me up on Steam.
 

BurdaA

Frost-Byte
soooo about that nerf


So wait, wtf was with that other comparison that looked different? Or am I having a stroke?

Either way, the scare has got me wanting to future proof with a second team. Definitely want 3 chars that aren’t specific assist dependent

Anyone theory crafting Broly synergy yet? I know we don’t have much to go on, but that K&M thing about DHC into Vegeta before Broly’s lvl1 hits... that’s got me wanting to lab.
 

Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
So wait, wtf was with that other comparison that looked different? Or am I having a stroke?

Either way, the scare has got me wanting to future proof with a second team. Definitely want 3 chars that aren’t specific assist dependent

Anyone theory crafting Broly synergy yet? I know we don’t have much to go on, but that K&M thing about DHC into Vegeta before Broly’s lvl1 hits... that’s got me wanting to lab.
Seems to me that they reduced the amount of fireballs to 8 in Vegeta's case. I'm a bit confused.

As for Broly, he might be a huge addition to the new team I plan to try once he's out. I believe that he might need A18 or any similar char to prevent the escape from air. He might be a comebacker, regarding his armor. We'll have to test if this armor prevents SD and Vanish. We have yet to see if it prevents DR.

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Johnny Based Cage

The Shangest of Tsungs
Oh shit, this could kill the vast majority of my Nappa tech. :(

Was worried it might happen tho, so w/e... Broly it is, if so.
Got any vids? Nappa looks interesting to me but I'm not finding much in the way of people actually playing him lol.

Also any thoughts on how he might pair with Ginyu?
 

BurdaA

Frost-Byte
maybe Nappa got a buff, if you like him, why drop the character so quickly
Hopefully so! Haven’t actually said I’m dropping him yet, and we’re not even sure Vegeta’s trait got nerfed apparently.

Just saiyan IF he’s nerfed by association and there’s no compensation (or he just no longer has what I’m looking for), I’ll probably invest my time elsewhere.

Anyways I never truly drop anyone, no matter the butthurt, just might start maining someone else.
 

BurdaA

Frost-Byte
Got any vids? Nappa looks interesting to me but I'm not finding much in the way of people actually playing him lol.

Also any thoughts on how he might pair with Ginyu?

I kinda overwhelmed the Nappa thread :);
https://testyourmight.com/threads/nice-trip-to-the-afterlife-nappa-general-discussion-thread.66489/

I considered Ginyu for a bit actually, but kinda struggled to get much from Nappa using Ginyu’s assist.

Who would be third? My stuff is massively dependent on Vegeta assist.... so there’s that.
 

Johnny Based Cage

The Shangest of Tsungs
I kinda overwhelmed the Nappa thread :);
https://testyourmight.com/threads/nice-trip-to-the-afterlife-nappa-general-discussion-thread.66489/

I considered Ginyu for a bit actually, but kinda struggled to get much from Nappa using Ginyu’s assist.

Who would be third? My stuff is massively dependent on Vegeta assist.... so there’s that.
Thanks, dude! I didn't even realize there were separate character threads lol!

I'm trying to avoid Vegeta and all the spiky haired motherfuckers like him but if I were to make an exception it'd be for him bc of that assist and how prominent it seems to be in just about everything I'm seeing. Right now just trying to get a feel for what's out there though so appreciate the insight into Nappa!
 

Chakk dizzle

That's baaaaane
Looking to get some games in a little bit and also tonight on psn. Psn is chakkdizzle and dbfz tag is Piccobro

Preferably east coastish .