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Juggs

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EntropicByDesign

It's all so very confusing.
Is android 21 worth the grind i really wanna see what shes like but story mode is long as fook is she really worth it ?


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I think shes one of the most fun characters in the game. She's the 2nd of my two core members, Kid buu being the other. I think she's reasonably strong too. Nothing outlandish, she's not A.Gohan or Goku Black, but she can do solid damage by herself and her double move-steal combos are nice.

She has a lot of room to grow too and depending on what characters you get your moves from, she can do some really mean shit. She gets a kame that's one of the best of its kind in the game, or a fucking reality stone that can do A LOT of work for her - there is no fighting game on the planet where a slow moving, tracking projectile is not a very good thing. The great thing though is she stands up well by herself, you dont need to steal moves to put in work with her. Her regular move set does quite well.

She's poke-y with good range. Her cr.l is a nice, spammable low with good range. He cr.m is awesome as you can do 3M's to throw out fast lows about 3/4 screen, and use her S to confirm into some damage. Her standing buttons are solid, she's got a great j.H. Surprisingly decent grounded projectile tied to her attack buttons (not her S) and her S itself has an element of evasion and movement due to how she throws it, in addition to covering good screen space. Her knee slam type move is nice too - any move that can carry you and the opponent back down to the ground together is a nice thing to have around.

Her Supers are decent. Nothing like, S+ tier or anything, but quite good. The angle and space covered by the lv1 is nice.

Her assist isn't amazing though. It absolutely has its uses and can be used to set up some crossup pressure, or re-enforce block pressure, but using it to cover unsafe moves or extend combos isnt easy due to the timing. I absolutely think it can do those things, but its going to take time to work out just when and how best to use it for those purposes.

I'm running her, most likely, as a mid and possibly point. Mid seems like a solid spot for her as she doesnt need a ton of meter and you get her out early and often enough to try to pick up the high priority moves if the opponent is running characters that have them. Some of the moves she can steal seem largely pointless.. but its early and I could be wrong (the flare thing and the command grab as examples)

Obviously it's WAY too early to call tier lists or anything like that, but as the game stands, compared to other characters I think she's solid and as tech with her comes out and we learn to use her assist better and make optimal use of stolen moves, she's going to become even stronger. We dont see her much because (and no offense meant to anyone here running these characters, I run some of them myself) most of the population of the game is too busy running Goku Black, A.Gohan (Im seeing him EVERYWHERE now) and Vegeta to fit her in.. with a health sprinkling of 18, Kid Buu and Cell lol.
 

ProudDisciple

Average at Best
So im garbo. Lol
Lol, Im in the same boat. Im green can’t tell if it is light or dark

Ive recorded my matches and need to go back to look them over.

But just thinking about how I play my pressure seems to be nonexistent, My”turn” doesn’t last as long as my opponents. It also seems like Im always on the defensive can’t block forever and eventually get opened up.
I still really enjoy the game I guess I just need to re-evaluate my approach.
 

Sultani

Warrior
Lol, Im in the same boat. Im green can’t tell if it is light or dark

Ive recorded my matches and need to go back to look them over.

But just thinking about how I play my pressure seems to be nonexistent, My”turn” doesn’t last as long as my opponents. It also seems like Im always on the defensive can’t block forever and eventually get opened up.
I still really enjoy the game I guess I just need to re-evaluate my approach.
It's weird though.. i win alot. Ive only lost once so far today out of like 20 matches.
 

Sultani

Warrior
Lol, Im in the same boat. Im green can’t tell if it is light or dark

Ive recorded my matches and need to go back to look them over.

But just thinking about how I play my pressure seems to be nonexistent, My”turn” doesn’t last as long as my opponents. It also seems like Im always on the defensive can’t block forever and eventually get opened up.
I still really enjoy the game I guess I just need to re-evaluate my approach.
Sometimes you just dont get a turn. Like against krillin and yamcha. Lights just push you away after a free side ro side mixup
 

ProudDisciple

Average at Best
I’m gonna start uploading some of my matches to youtube. Will y’all help me out and watch them and give me pointers? I absolutely love this game and I want to get better every chance I get.


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I’ll definitely look at your gameplay when I get a chance and provide wahtever feedback I can. I honestly don’t feel that I’ve earned the right to be giving anybody advice considering my gameplay needs a lot of improvement.
Do you mind looking at mine as well?

 

ProudDisciple

Average at Best
It's weird though.. i win alot. Ive only lost once so far today out of like 20 matches.
You win more than I do, I don’t know if within the matches the game evaluates our gameplay or what?!?

I think my win % is about 60% or so and Ive only played between 30-40 World (Ranked) matches. I honestly need to spend time in the lab I have a bad habit of telling myself that Ill learn as I go but my execution is lacking, I miss conversions and just feel lost as to what I should do on offense.
 
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ProudDisciple

Average at Best
Sometimes you just dont get a turn. Like against krillin and yamcha. Lights just push you away after a free side ro side mixup
If I’ve played against those characters I honestly can’t remember. Regardless of who Im playing against I struggle to find and take my turn. When I think I can/should press a button I get counter hit or Super Dashed. I just need to play more in order to better recognize the situations.

I played some sets last night and felt a little better and more comfortable as the games went on. I started building up a little pressure but need to mix it up better, cover my holes and better execute on conversions.
 

Sultani

Warrior
I catch myself getting hit by the followups im prdicting. I cant get around it. Like if someone has spark active and superdashes.. i know they are going to follow up mashing lights, so i keep blocking and get hit anyway.

Or against any of the ssgss characters, hkd into 5H seems to hit me no matter what even if i just hold block Its like a free reset
 

ProudDisciple

Average at Best
Yeah the 3 or 4 air dash lights in Sparking is predictable yet a little annoying to deal with. I seem to get caught a lot by long range crouching mediums that I know are coming but haven’t been able to punish or beat out. I also have gotten dragon rushed knowing that they’re gonna throw me as I hit the button to throw break but....yeah
 

Sultani

Warrior
Yeah the 3 or 4 air dash lights in Sparking is predictable yet a little annoying to deal with. I seem to get caught a lot by long range crouching mediums that I know are coming but haven’t been able to punish or beat out. I also have gotten dragon rushed knowing that they’re gonna throw me as I hit the button to throw break but....yeah
Its only annoying when it hits me even though i just held block because i knew it was coming. It happens alot.
 

DarksydeDash

You know me as RisingShieldBro online.
Oh
https://twitter.com/bandainamcous/status/959640513669349378

The squares by your name indicate your “strength” as a player. The pink squares are the best players, then Orange, Yellow, etc. I’m B rank aka Orange rank.

A: Pink
B: Orange
C: Yellow
D: Light Green
E: Dark Green
F: Blue
G: Light Blue


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Oh, well that's handy.

I've been orange not too long after I played rank but ever since the update I haven't been able to get matches nearly as often so I stopped playing.

Managed to get a few ring matches in Vs a very good hit player so does that factor into the color as well?
 

Juggs

Lose without excuses
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Dark green. Any idea how its determined? Ive played and beat some yellows that were terrible
-It’s your win%
-Opponents beaten win%
-Opponents beaten you win%
-ranking and rating of opponents beaten/beaten you
-and some other factors like win streaks, etc


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TheJaquio

Kombatant
-It’s your win%
-Opponents beaten win%
-Opponents beaten you win%
-ranking and rating of opponents beaten/beaten you
-and some other factors like win streaks, etc


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I thought I read somewhere that only matches played against squares of the same color will count towards it though?
 

TrulyAmiracle

Loud and Klear~
Against sparking superdash you have 2 real options if you don't wanna play the wacky gimmicky mixups game.
1) Deflect when you see it coming to push them back and avoid the whole thing.
2) Superjump around and block in the air where you can't get mixed up.
 

God Confirm

We're all from Earthrealm. If not, cool pic brah.
I'll test it.

Ok. All versions are minus. Light and heavy version seem to be about -1 or -2. Medium is quite a bit more. Punishable on block actually. Couldnt get it to go to the other side on block for any version.

All versions get straight up beat by projectiles or 2H
i thought TK heavy legs is Plus

remember the height at which you perform this will affect its frames