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What does "superior block" mean? Like Warlord has "Superior Block Light Attacks". Ive read the description and dont really understand. Someone explain to me?
 
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Juggs

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What does "superior block" mean? Like Warlord has "Superior Block Light Attacks". Ive read the description and dont really understand. Someone explain to me?
I think it's the light parry. Like Warden has an attack where if you block up and press R1/light it's basically a parry into an immediate attack.

I could be wrong though.

EDIT: nvm I thought you were talking about a move he has.
 
What does "superior block" mean? Like Warlord has "Superior Block Light Attacks". Ive read the description and dont really understand. Someone explain to me?
its basically a parry and its kinda like the warden. What it does is if you attack or are attacking into the direction of an attack then there is a window where you block the attack and do a your attack at the same time. I dont believe the attack is a guaranteed hit tho but it is faster than wardens
 

Monox1de

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What does "superior block" mean? Like Warlord has "Superior Block Light Attacks". Ive read the description and dont really understand. Someone explain to me?
Superior block light attacks means you can block in the direction you're holding while you light attack basically....not really a parry, but kinda looks like one. It's way more obvious with the superior block heavy attack conq has. ... With the superior block light attack it seems like you're just blocking and instantly attacking like a parry-light attack combo. but i believe it means you can block during the startup frames of your light attack in whatever direction you are blocking.....that was my understanding of it anyways....sorry i'm terrible at explaining things.
 

Monox1de

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So am i the only one here who plays on PC with mouse/keyboard?? A lot of pc players i see say they use controllers....i prefer the keyboard/mouse...I play fighting games with stick so a controller feels so foreign to me to begin with. I also don't even own a console so that might have something to do with it.
 

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Zone means the zone attack


Literally confirmation bias
game much better on ps4 than xb1 in my opinion, how about that!!!!!!!!!
There is a reason beyond bias for my bias. Ps4 limits your connection speed. XB1 doesn't.
 

GAV

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Here we go. Anyway, this is my Day 1 Warden. Any tips from Warden mains? Not too sure the best option for neutral. Zone attack is fast and has great range, but won't work too often vs good players. I don't mean to do the up heavy after the guard break, that's just me being dyslexic and trying to alter my stance with the left analog, lol.

The Warden "vortex" is complemented very well by his feat ranged attacks. When they roll to get out of your vortex. Break it out and there won't be time for them to avoid it.
 

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I generally don't have a problem parrying. But I've noticed something watching streams. PC players parry way more often and consistently than console players of those I've watched. Does 60fps make it easier to react and parry stuff?

The Warden "vortex" is complemented very well by his feat ranged attacks. When they roll to get out of your vortex. Break it out and there won't be time for them to avoid it.
What do you mean "feat ranged attacks". I'm assuming it's a typo. But are you saying you can punish back rolls that get out of the vortex?
 

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I generally don't have a problem parrying. But I've noticed something watching streams. PC players parry way more often and consistently than console players of those I've watched. Does 60fps make it easier to react and parry stuff?


What do you mean "feat ranged attacks". I'm assuming it's a typo. But are you saying you can punish back rolls that get out of the vortex?
Yes.

Feats are the active or passive buffs you choose any one of three for 4 perks. You get more choices as you approach level 20. For the Warden, these active choices are very strong because they compliment his vortex.
 

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I believe wardens pseudo-vortex will get patched eventually. Not a huge nerf, but something like it requiring more stamina to perform. I personally think it's fine how it is right now but I'm a little biased since I'm using Warden now. The fact that you can simply roll backwards out of it, means it's not over powered in my opinion.
 

Monox1de

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Oh, that's 4v4 stuff. I don't have any interest in that broken crap, lol.
exactly my thoughts on feats. It sucks having to go into 4v4 to do contract orders and daily orders bcus i always get 3 or 4v1'd or if it's close they all know how to use their feats correctly to forcefully penetrate me. :(
 
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exactly my thoughts on feats. It sucks having to go into 4v4 to do contract orders and daily orders bcus i always get 3 or 4v1'd or if it's close they all know how to use their feats correctly to forcefully penetrate me. :(
Yeah I think you should be able to disable feats and gears stats in 4v4 if you want.
 

Monox1de

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I believe wardens pseudo-vortex will get patched eventually. Not a huge nerf, but something like it requiring more stamina to perform. I personally think it's fine how it is right now but I'm a little biased since I'm using Warden now. The fact that you can simply roll backwards out of it, means it's not over powered in my opinion.
Rolling backwards isn't always an option... bcus stamina and all....but that just means you need to be more careful with your stam vs wardens....i wouldn't be against them making the vortex cost a bit more stam to keep looping it and think that would be a reasonable nerf.
 
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Oh, that's 4v4 stuff. I don't have any interest in that broken crap, lol.
Honestly, I think dominion might be the only current "competitive game mode". It is the only game mode currently that forces action. 1v1 and 2v2 and 4v4 elimination have huge problems when you approach them with a competitive mindset. Time outs result in a draw if you have equal number of players, or a win if you have more players. Health is not a factor at all. If you have a numbers advantage, it's beneficial to take zero risk, and just avoid fighting until time runs out.

Furthermore, if you are playing a character that has heavy ring out potential, such as Warlord, it is in your best interest to camp near an environment kill, so if you parry something you get a free win. If it's 1v1, neither person has an incentive to actually approach the other on terrain that is beneficial to the other. If it's Orochi vs Warlord, the Warlord can camp near a ledge, Orochi obviously wants nothing to do with that since his throw distance is butt. So he will want to hang back in open space to utilize his mobility. Neither has a good reason to approach the other in a 1v1 situation.

In addition to that, if you have a life disadvantage in a 1v1 on something like 4v4 elimination (and even some 2v2 maps), you might want to just run away until time runs out to take the draw. It could easily be the best choice, especially if your opponent is playing a slower class and has no chance to catch you.

Basically, if 1v1. 2v2 or 4v4 elimination is the competitive mode, expect these strats, which IMO would be very detrimental to the game.
 

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exactly my thoughts on feats. It sucks having to go into 4v4 to do contract orders and daily orders bcus i always get 3 or 4v1'd or if it's close they all know how to use their feats correctly to forcefully penetrate me. :(
No one likes to be forcefully penetrated. :p
 

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The Warden "vortex" is complemented very well by his feat ranged attacks. When they roll to get out of your vortex. Break it out and there won't be time for them to avoid it.
what are you supposed to do to get out of this
 
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If anybody would like, add me for PSN games anytime. Xx_Mr_Topper_xX Reputation 1, lvl 12 or so Shugoki...bear hug some fools.
 
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