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MisguidedAngel

Greetings, Mortal
The leaked roster is 100% confirmed as far as I'm concerned. He guessed everything that was reveled today a month ago, even the big bad and the alternate costume characters.

Who was voice acting Brainiac in the trailer? His voice was very familiar.
 

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And you're greatly mistaken and your information is outdated, since the only Kryptonians on earth are Clark, Kara and Jon. Power Girl is back on earth 2

And his obsession is with Superman, not any of the others. He only views them as ways he can get to Superman and make him suffer.

And it seems you didn't read my post very well (Look into that), since i said that Darksied becoming more of Superman villain popularized by Superman TAS and continued to the comics. Never said that it was the only example and hell, they've fought in the comics even before then

And yes, Darksied has shown up several times in the Superman book.

Also , a lot of villains have faced the JL, that never changes who their arch foe is.
I hated new 52 so I stopped reading and haven't gotten into their new line. I'm aware of the kid but didn't think of em. Not to mention Darkseid hasn't been seen yet AFAIK.


He's not obsessed with Superman, he was obsessed with the Anti-life equation. Lex is obsessed with Superman, Darkseid sees him as a foe.

I read it perfectly fine, you're saying that starting with the 90s cartoon he became seen more a a Superman villain. That's what you said. What about literally EVERYTHING ELSE including several comics around, before, and after that time. It's vastly, vastly more Justice League/general DCU than Superman. So what if he shows up in Superman comics? He shows up in Batman comics too, more recently than Superman comics no less AFAIK.



He's been in Brave in the Bold as well. Does this suddenly make him a Batman villain? Joker has shown up in Superman, Lex has shown up in Batman, Zoom has shown up in Wonder Woman, Sinestro has shown up in Flash. The difference between them is the vast majority of their appearance are within the series of their foes. I've said it before but I'll even lower it, can you say even a THIRD of Darkseid's appearances/arcs are within Superman comics? No, they happen across several books and the ones with the most are Justice League.


For New 52 villains month Darkseid was not part of Superman's villains but Justice Leagues.

Action Comics #23.1 Cyborg Superman #1
Action Comics #23.2 General Zod #1
Action Comics #23.3 Lex Luthor #1
Action Comics #23.4 Metallo #1
Superman #23.1 Bizarro #1
Superman #23.2 Brainiac #1
Superman #24.3 H’el #1
Superman #24.4 Parasite #1

Justice League #23.1 Darkseid #1
Justice League #23.2 Lobo #1
Justice League #23.3 Dial E #1
Justice League #23.4 Secret Society of Super-Villians #1

Edit: Jeez, I take it back, he's in New Gods comics so much it's ridiculous.



Edit 2: Feel free to look at this - http://comicvine.gamespot.com/darkseid/4005-2349/issues-cover/

All his appearances, New Gods are far and away #1, Superman is #2, League is 3. Most his major story arcs are events/Justice League.
 
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I hated new 52 so I stopped reading and haven't gotten into their new line. I'm aware of the kid but didn't think of em. Not to mention Darkseid hasn't been seen yet AFAIK.
In Rebirth? No and the last time we saw him before Rebirth, it had Luthor taking over as ruler of Apokalips. Though he has since returned to Earth after the death of the New 52 Superman.




He's not obsessed with Superman, he was obsessed with the Anti-life equation. Lex is obsessed with Superman, Darkseid sees him as a foe.
Lex is hardly the only Superman villain obsessed with Superman. Though i'll concede he's up there, seeing as he's going around calling himself Superman now and calls the Pre-52 Superman a fake.

I read it perfectly fine, you're saying that starting with the 90s cartoon he became seen more a a Superman villain. That's what you said.
More like popularized the idea, though they had fought in the comics even before that.

What about literally EVERYTHING ELSE including several comics around, before, and after that time. It's vastly, vastly more Justice League/general DCU than Superman.

So what if he shows up in Superman comics? He shows up in Batman comics too, more recently than Superman comics no less AFAIK.
But hardly more frequently. He has obviously fought Superman more than Batman. Also worth pointing out that Darksied actually debuted in a Superman book, before showing up in Forever People.

And the New Gods don't really have their own books these days, so we don't exactly see Darksied fighting Orion all that much.

And not for nothing, but villains jumping rogues galleries isn't uncommon in comics. I mean, few people remember that Sabretooth was an Iron Fist villain, everyone just knows him as Wolverine's arch nemesis.
 

kantboy-2

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Ocean Master is a deluxe skin in my book. NRS basically took Ocean Master's abilities and moved them to Aquaman.

Darkseid debuted on a Superman book in the Silver Age (Jimmy Olsen, of all books). Kirby saw a natural link between his New God pantheon and the alien demigod that was already hanging out at DC comics. He started getting included with the regular DC comics after Kirby's books closed shop. His biggest influence in the current pop aspect of the character was with the inclusion of the bad guy New Gods in the Super Powers toy/cartoon series in 1985. He was also used to much acclaim on 'The Great Darkness Saga' on Legion of Super Heroes and the 'Legends' mini-series around that time.

After that, DC realized that Darkseid was important and he's been a top bad guy ever since.
 

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Lex is hardly the only Superman villain obsessed with Superman. Though i'll concede he's up there, seeing as he's going around calling himself Superman now and calls the Pre-52 Superman a fake.


More like popularized the idea, though they had fought in the comics even before that.


But hardly more frequently. He has obviously fought Superman more than Batman. Also worth pointing out that Darksied actually debuted in a Superman book, before showing up in Forever People.

And the New Gods don't really have their own books these days, so we don't exactly see Darksied fighting Orion all that much.

And not for nothing, but villains jumping rogues galleries isn't uncommon in comics. I mean, few people remember that Sabretooth was an Iron Fist villain, everyone just knows him as Wolverine's arch nemesis.

I didn't say only Lex was, it was to show the difference. Darkseid isn't obsessed with Supes.

It popularized the idea to the mainstream but it was never that way. Just like Justice League: Doom popularized the idea that Batman has a plan for everyone when he really doesn't.

Yes, he's fought Superman more because, of the core 6/7, Superman is one of the few that wouldn't get obliterated on his own. Darkseid is less likely to fight a Green Arrow than a Wonder Woman as he is less likely to fight a Batman than a Superman. It's just the power scale. The point being that Darkseid frequently fights people not named Superman.

Grundy started in Green Lantern but he's a general villain too. Black Canary first appeared in Flash but she's not a Flash supporting character. So on and so forth.

Yet he has appeared in more New Gods more than anything.

Yes, people jump Rogue's Galleries but general villains appear in several serializations without really being beholden to anyone. Darkseid isn't beholden to Superman, he's not mostly a Superman villain.
 

MisguidedAngel

Greetings, Mortal
Captain Pedantic to the rescue!

I know it hurts... but the Timmverse is way bigger and more important than the comics could ever hope to achieve ;).

That's why so many voice actors in Injustice are from those shows.
 

kantboy-2

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JLA: Tower of Babel was the basis for Justice League: Doom.

Since that comic came out (2000), it's now an important part of the character. He does have a contingency plan against every one.

That's why he built the Justice Buster used in the 'Endgame' comic.

And the Timmverse is important, but 90 % of the stuff in it came from the comics. Harley Quinn is the exception, not the rule.
 

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We're all from Earthrealm. If not, cool pic brah.
I just want to say that it wouldn't matter if a character spent every single one of their appearances in a specific hero's comic book line - that doesn't mean they are obsessed with that character. Plenty of comic book characters have villians almost unique to their comic books that have no obsession with them, they just appear there most often because they happen to coincide with the hero's agenda, live in the same town, or just have some sort of other relationship.
 

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JLA: Tower of Babel was the basis for Justice League: Doom.

Since that comic came out (2000), it's now an important part of the character. He does have a contingency plan against every one.

That's why he built the Justice Buster used in the 'Endgame' comic.

And the Timmverse is important, but 90 % of the stuff in it came from the comics. Harley Quinn is the exception, not the rule.
I said it popularized the idea but it ignores the context of Ra's' resources v. Bruce's. He doesn't have a plan against everyone, Justice Buster was ass-pullery nonsense to me. What's funny is he still lost with it and had to use Kryptonite Gum to beat Superman. Endgame is sooooo ridiculous.
 
And the Timmverse is important, but 90 % of the stuff in it came from the comics. Harley Quinn is the exception, not the rule.
And Livewire, Rene Montoya, Lock Up and most characters from Batman Beyond. They all did get introduced into the comics.

The DCAU also introduced Mr.Freeze's tragic back story, since before that he didn't have much depth in the comics .
 
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Hello all. Longtime lurker, first time poster, but I figure I would get in on this speculation action and try to compile everything we know up this point so we have a reference going forward. Below is my attempt:

INJUSTICE: GODS AMONG US --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Heroes: Aquaman, Batman, Cyborg, Flash, Green Arrow, Green Lantern, Hawkgirl, Nightwing, Raven, Shazam, Superman, Wonder Woman. DLC: Batgirl, Martian Manhunter, Zatanna.

Villians: Ares, Bane, Black Adam, Catwoman, Deathstroke, Doomsday, Harley Quinn, Joker, Killer Frost, Lex Luthor, Sinestro, Solomon Grundy. DLC: Lobo, Scorpion, Zod.

12 Heroes + 12 Villains = 24 playable characters at launch.
15 Heroes + 15 Villains = 30 playable characters by the end of the DLC cycle.

INJUSTICE 2 - POTENTIAL LEAK -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Heroes: Black Canary, Blue Beetle, Cyborg, Doctor Fate, Firestorm, Flash, Green Arrow, Green Lantern, Jon Stewart, Powergirl, Robin, Swamp Thing.

Villains: Bane, Black Adam, Brainiac, Captain Cold, Catwoman, Cheetah, Joker, Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, Reverse Flash, Scarecrow.

IIRC, none of the characters that had been officially revealed up to the Harley and Deadshot reveal were included in the leak (Aquaman, Atrocitus, Batman, Deadshot, Gorilla Grodd, Harley Quinn, Supergirl, & Superman), as they had already been revealed. Darkseid was also not included in the list. As can be seen, each of the confirmed premium skins (Jon Stewart, Powergirl, and Reverse Flash) were listed as separate characters. This leaves open the possibility that some of the villains listed are actually premium skins (most likely Cheetah (Catwoman) and Mr. Freeze (Captain Cold)).

Importantly, this leak was purportedly for the roster of the Injustice 2 Mobile Game, the leaker hypothesizing that the initial release roster for that game would match the roster of the main game. I did not play the Mobile version of Injustice 1, but I do know that it ended up with a much larger roster of characters by the end of its development cycle. I don’t know if its roster matched that of the main game at launch. If this leak is accurate, then all of the premium skin characters will, most likely, be unique characters on that platform.

Including Darkseid, this results in 15 heroes + 15 villains = 30 playable characters (assuming Cheetah and Mr. Freeze are unique characters and not a premium skins, 28 playable characters otherwise).

Observations ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1. Injustice 1 launched with an equal number of Heroes and Villains (12 and 12), and ended with an equal amount of each (15 and 15). The leak seems to follow this pattern, unless both or either Cheetah and Mr. Freeze are premium skins, as that would result in there being more Heroes than Villains (15 Heroes to either 13 or 14 Villains).
  2. If the leak is correct, these characters will not be returning as unique, launch characters: Heroes: Hawkgirl, Nightwing, Raven, Shazam, Batgirl, Martian Manhunter, Zatanna. Villians: Ares, Deathstroke, Killer Frost, Lex Luthor, Sinestro, Solomon Grundy, Lobo, Scorpion.
  3. There has already been speculation that some of these characters may return as premium skins (Nightwing as a skin for Robin being the main one I’ve seen so far).
  4. The official Injustice 2 website appears to have 31 character profile spots, suggesting there will be 31 characters at launch. This assumes the 9 DLC characters promised by the ultimate edition advertisements are not included in this 31 character total, which seems to be a safe assumption based on the launch size of the MKX roster size paired with comments made by Ed Boon and others re: Injustice 2’s roster size. If the 31 number is accurate and the 9 DLC spots are not included, we have at least 1 unannounced, un-leaked launch characters (Up to 3 characters if Cheetah and Mr. Freeze are premium skins)
  5. If the leak is accurate, folks who thought Injustice 1 was a “Bat Brawler” will not be pleased, as almost a full 3rd of the launch roster will be Batman Heroes or Rogues (Bane, Batman, Catwoman, Harley Quinn, Joker, Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, Robin and Scarecrow).
  6. If the leak is accurate, there are a larger number of returning Heroes compared to Villains, 8 of the original 15 Heroes are returning, while only 5 of the original 15 Villains are back. Also worth noting is that slightly less than half of the original roster will be returning.
Did I miss anything?
 
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kantboy-2

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The mobile game started with only 2/3 of the initial roster, they started adding more characters after 2 months and started doing exclusive mobile skins almost a year later. They added Darkseid and Static afterwards and it opened the gates for the new re-skin characters. It was a fun game for what it was, but the gear system screwed it up big time with all the idiots hacking and leveling up.

I'm guessing Cheetah is the character and Catwoman is the skin. Could it be that Green Lantern is like Liu Kang in MKX and he gets revealed as Yellow Lantern in story mode, but his main skin is regular GL?

What I'm hoping are the other six 'premium skins'

Grodd = Ultra-Humanite
Aquaman = Ocean Master
Superman = Ultraman/Bizarro
Captain Cold = Mr. Freeze
Cheetah = Catwoman
Black Adam = Shazam

Of course, I hope they continue releasing premium skins with the DLC content.
 
It never occurred to me that Shazam could appear as a premium skin for Black Adam, but that makes perfect sense. Heck, I prefer this option now, as I like Shazam as a character but was not a fan of his moveset in IGAU (I know they had to differentiate him from Superman somehow, but he had too many kick moves of a nature that didn't seem to match most conceptions of the character).

I'm wondering how likely we are to see a Mr. Freeze re-skin of Captain Cold, only because those two characters seem to be very similar in powerset, but VERY different in physical make-up. I would imagine Mr. Freeze would be quite a bit bulkier than Cold, which I would think would necessitate different hitboxes, which would necessitate new animations, which, in turn, would affect frame data. At that point, you have a new character and not just a skin. I guess they could bulk up Cold somehow, or slim down Freeze, but I guess we'll have to see. I definitely hope one is a premium skin, however, as there is no need to have TWO characters with freeze guns.

Here's a thought: If NRS can somehow keep frame data but tweak hitbokes and animations in a way that would let them put a bulkier Mr. Freeze model over the original Captain Cold, could Swamp Thing be a premium skin for Poison Ivy? I'm seeing some people saying that Poison Ivy being in the recent trailer basically confirms Swamp Thing isn't in the game due to the thinking that there's no way NRS would put in two plant-based characters, but the premium skins appear to be designed to allow NRS to do just that without taking up full roster spots.

I'm on board with your premium skin ideas, but I'll add one of my own:

Doctor Fate = Phantom Stranger

I thought seeing PS in this game was a pipe dream based on the same logic the Swamp Thing fans are using re: Poison Ivy, but the premium skin reveal has rekindled my hope. It's still a HUGE long shot, we're more likely to see a Raven premium skin before a PS one, but I will keep my fingers crossed.
 
Did I miss anything?
I don't think you missed anything. I'd add though that it's still possible we are getting something closer to 24 characters. The extra spots on the website may be there only for the purpose of giving a profile to premium skins characters. I'm hoping this isn't the case and that we are getting 31 separate and distinct characters; I want this game to have a huge and diverse roster. If it is the case though, I hope Boon will jump on top of this issue soon, tell us what the roster size actually is, and temper expectations.
 

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So if we have Doctor Fate and Captain Cold sub-forums, I think Green Lantern should have one. He is definitely more confirmed than the other two, being explicitly stated on the website and all. Just my 2¢ :cool:
 

DDustiNN

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Not sure if anyone brought this up, but on IMDB page for inj2 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5769154/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast) they also have reverse flash and power girl in the cast.
Those are "premium" skins/costumes for the Flash and Supergirl (not actual additional characters), and are included with the Ultimate Edition pre-order. These skins also change the voice and dialogue as well.

You can see pics on the official Injustice website under the pre-order section.