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trufenix

bye felicia
did you even look at the post above yours or nah?
I did, and digging up a tiny reference to a half baked fighting style mentioned in a couple comics on the same pages he gets physically obliterated does not erase the LONG STANDING LEGACY that Scarecrow is a titanic physical jobber whose only gift is that he knows how to make brain poison.

I'm still waiting for someone to come up with something other than, he stabs you with poison and gets weird buffs. What does his b+3 even look like? What does he do when you press LB next to a car? Can he even jump?
 
People want 2-Face in the game. What does he do? He has a pistol, maybe some grenades or a Tommy Gun? 2 Face isn't much in the way of martial arts, he's an every day person.

Joker wouldn't hang much higher on that list without various planned traps & gadgets. Nor GL without his ring.

Though truthfully, I'm not really wanting to debate whether or not a character could conceivably fight without their primary tool set, or to put down the requests for those characters, or even, what said character is reduced to outside of costume. As Inj is a fighting game, it's up to the imagination of those involved to make it work.

Honestly, Round-1-Start. Scarecrow could be absolutely bottom tier with a move set revolving around the use of Fear Toxin that amplifies his attributes (higher damage, damage resistance, other special moves, reversing inputs etc) So that the whole point of using him is finding ways to poison the opponent to get access to better tools. Something along the lines of Bo's Drunken Master variation, or again, Valentine from Skullgirls.

After all, that's ultimately the point of the Scarecrow character. He's an ordinary man in a costume, but also a mastermind. That's why he is always creating stronger versions of his Fear Toxin. Batman (and others) eventually find a cure for it, but then he just makes a different/stronger version. One dose of it and he becomes far more of a threat.

The creative approach with the character, especially being built around status effects/stacking effects is vast enough to warrant exploration in my opinion.
 

Ryu Hayabusa

Filthy Casual
Any character can work in fighting game. It's all about frame data and damage.

That said I don't want him in game. His gimmick is weak and there are hundreds of characters with unique/powerful abilities and story relevance.

There is a reason why batman characters usually don't play any part in big universe wide events. Joker triggered superman in injustice 1 and that was his only role. All other batman villains were goons who had little to no story relevance.
 
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GAV

Resolution through knowledge and resolve.
Scarecrow beats his opponent without even touching them and once they're defeated, they neither know what their opponent looked like nor can they recall how it even happened. He even has an alter-ego that really exists...

:p
All jokes aside, I think Scarecrow would be a nice addition if built right.
 
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KCJ506

Kombatant
Scarecrow has potential. His moveset could consist of him using a scythe, needle glove, fear gas teleports, fear gas bombs, summoning creatures based on nightmares, different debuffs could be applied depending on what toxin he uses. He could mess with the opposing characters' buttons via specific toxins.
 

KCJ506

Kombatant
People want 2-Face in the game. What does he do? He has a pistol, maybe some grenades or a Tommy Gun? 2 Face isn't much in the way of martial arts, he's an every day person.
Honestly when I see people suggest Batman characters like Two-Face, Black Mask or Hush, it makes me think that they're suggesting them for the sake of familiarity. Two-Face is one of my favorites out of Batman's rogue gallery, but that doesn't mean I want him in this game nor do I think he would be top fighting game material. I even once came across somebody putting down Vixen but favoring Hush to be in the game. Hush. Other than maybe surgical equipment (which is a pretty big maybe, because he mostly uses guns and won't just throw syringes out of his ass), I can't see what he would offer in terms of gameplay.


Penguin also isn't a character I'd want in this either, but he'd at least possibly have a unique moveset using his trick umbrellas.
 

Dankster Morgan

It is better this way
Honestly when I see people suggest Batman characters like Two-Face, Black Mask or Hush, it makes me think that they're suggesting them for the sake of familiarity. Two-Face is one of my favorites out of Batman's rogue gallery, but that doesn't mean I want him in this game nor do I think he would be top fighting game material. I even once came across somebody putting down Vixen but favoring Hush to be in the game. Hush. Other than maybe surgical equipment (which is a pretty big maybe, because he mostly uses guns and won't just throw syringes out of his ass), I can't see what he would offer in terms of gameplay.


Penguin also isn't a character I'd want in this either, but he'd at least possibly have a unique moveset using his trick umbrellas.
This.

Some characters are great characters for reasons other than kicking ass. I don't know anyone who doesn't think Alfred and Jim Gordon are great characters, they also don't belong in a fighting game. On the flipside some fighting game characters aren't really that interesting as characters, but work well for fighting games(most MK characters)
 

The PantyChrist

Rest in Pantiez
I did, and digging up a tiny reference to a half baked fighting style mentioned in a couple comics on the same pages he gets physically obliterated does not erase the LONG STANDING LEGACY that Scarecrow is a titanic physical jobber whose only gift is that he knows how to make brain poison.

I'm still waiting for someone to come up with something other than, he stabs you with poison and gets weird buffs. What does his b+3 even look like? What does he do when you press LB next to a car? Can he even jump?
just because Batman and his some of his physically enhanced rogues beat his ass does not make him a physical jobber
 

The PantyChrist

Rest in Pantiez
Still gives him barely enough for a good moveset that's not pulled out of no where like Possessed and Dualist. If this were virtua fighter or some other bland FG crane style might be enough, but I2??? Let's add Commissioner Gordon and Oracle while we're at it.

If anything make him a yellow lantern and have him be an alt skin for Sinestro if he's in.
oracle was in igau1 as batgirl
 

Riot Frenzy

Acidic Reptile
I haven't gone through all the posts but I'm personally hoping scarecrow plays kind of like a mix of Alien and Reptile with his poisen attacks and zoning. Him playing like Krueger as suggested on page 1 would be cool too. Scarecrow will be my alt for sure behind flash if he makes it in the game
 
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KCJ506

Kombatant
Am i the only one who doesn't want injustice to be stacked with batman characters
You're far from the only one. I can understand why people don't want a bunch of Batman characters on the roster and I agree it would be nice to have more corners of the DCU be repped. Thing is, to most casual players, Batman is their DC universe. The Batman universe alone has more characters they'd recognize than any other major DC hero. Though this is mainly because WB/DC give him so much exposure and the other DC heroes don't get as much. Though people may recognize some characters from Superman as well.

They do have to appeal to the casual fanbase somehow. As they make up the majority of the sales. One of the reasons why Street Fighter 5 is struggling in sales is because Capcom tried to appeal to the hardcore fanbase more.
 
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jackempty0

Born on a Monday
You're far from the only one. I can understand why people don't want a bunch of Batman characters on the roster and I agree it would be nice to have more corners of the DCU be repped. Thing is, to most casual players, Batman is their DC universe. The Batman universe alone has more characters they'd recognize than any other major DC hero. Though this is mainly because WB/DC give him so much exposure and the other DC heroes don't get as much. Though people may recognize some characters from Superman as well.

They do have to appeal to the casual fanbase somehow. As they make up the majority of the sales. One of the reasons why Street Fighter 5 is struggling in sales is because tried to appeal to the hardcore fanbase more.
But let's say we get a30 character roster not including dlc, can we only dedicate like 5 spots to batman characters
 

MisguidedAngel

Greetings, Mortal
If you can't see why Scarecrow has the potential to be an incredibly interesting fighting game character...

Then I'm glad you don't make fighting games for a living, I guess? Because you'd probably just add another guy who is super strong and flies and shoots lasers. Plus it would suck to have no imagination lol. Fighting game rosters need variety.

He's like DC's Mysterio. His moveset possibilities are infinite (and probably linked to a fear meter). Plus all the gear possibilities with him.
 
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Lokheit

Warrior
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought in the very first Injustice comic issue (I'm putting this on a spoiler tab but I'm almost sure it's in the first issue):

Scarecrow is dead, the Joker gets his gas to trick Superman into believing Louise is Doomsday. I haven't read most of the series but I recall that part. If he returns from the dead after that I stand corrected.

EDIT: Here is that part:


Then again, he was a stage interaction in the game so maybe he returned somehow?
 

JesterSMX

It's too laggy to poke...
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought in the very first Injustice comic issue (I'm putting this on a spoiler tab but I'm almost sure it's in the first issue):

Scarecrow is dead, the Joker gets his gas to trick Superman into believing Louise is Doomsday. I haven't read most of the series but I recall that part. If he returns from the dead after that I stand corrected.
I think you're right but I'm hopeful because of the leaked (unconfirmed) roster and the whole 2 worlds thing.
 

Fred Marvel

It's actually Freddy Marvel
Kuma is a literal Bear in Tekken. Poison Ivy doesnt really engage in Hand-to-hand combat and she is in the game. and besides this game, Grodd is a telepath who doesnt need to use his strength to fight The Flash.
Captain Cold uses mostly his cold gun.

So this vendetta you have is kind of pointless.

i get it you want Red Hood, i do too. But to shit on what someone else wants is a detriment to the FGC as a whole.
i dont play tekken lol but at least a bear fights, i dont think poison ivy should be in the game either btw. grodd has always fought hand 2 hand. captain cold uses his cold gun because hed be too slow to touch flash without it lol
i see what youre trying to say but scarecrow just isnt a good fit for a game like this. who knows mayeb theyll make him amazing though
 

Fred Marvel

It's actually Freddy Marvel
Kuma is a literal Bear in Tekken. Poison Ivy doesnt really engage in Hand-to-hand combat and she is in the game. and besides this game, Grodd is a telepath who doesnt need to use his strength to fight The Flash.
Captain Cold uses mostly his cold gun.

So this vendetta you have is kind of pointless.

i get it you want Red Hood, i do too. But to shit on what someone else wants is a detriment to the FGC as a whole.
i dont play tekken lol but at least a bear fights, i dont think poison ivy should be in the game either btw. grodd has always fought hand 2 hand. captain cold uses his cold gun because hed be too slow to touch flash without it lol
i see what youre trying to say but scarecrow just isnt a good fit for a game like this. who knows mayeb theyll make him amazing though
 

Fred Marvel

It's actually Freddy Marvel
Kuma is a literal Bear in Tekken. Poison Ivy doesnt really engage in Hand-to-hand combat and she is in the game. and besides this game, Grodd is a telepath who doesnt need to use his strength to fight The Flash.
Captain Cold uses mostly his cold gun.

So this vendetta you have is kind of pointless.

i get it you want Red Hood, i do too. But to shit on what someone else wants is a detriment to the FGC as a whole.
i dont play tekken lol but at least a bear fights, i dont think poison ivy should be in the game either btw. grodd has always fought hand 2 hand. captain cold uses his cold gun because he wouldd be too slow to touch flash without it lol
i see what youre trying to say but scarecrow just isnt a good fit for a game like this. who knows maybe they will make him amazing though
 

Mulder

King of Heroes
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought in the very first Injustice comic issue (I'm putting this on a spoiler tab but I'm almost sure it's in the first issue):

Scarecrow is dead, the Joker gets his gas to trick Superman into believing Louise is Doomsday. I haven't read most of the series but I recall that part. If he returns from the dead after that I stand corrected.

EDIT: Here is that part:


Then again, he was a stage interaction in the game so maybe he returned somehow?
Death doesn't matter in NRS games. Especially one in a tie-in comic.