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Tweedy

Noob
Iol!! if you're seriously getting beat by a d4 on wake up by ermac then that's your problem... hahaha
So I can't post a character's option in a situation, without it being because I lose to it?

Ermac's D4 is one of the best full combo punishes on cross over jumps in the game.

You're a tier whore, why not main him and make top 8 at a bunch of locals as you have been doing with Alien?
Love how I've destroyed your arguments, so it's just become an attack Tweedy thread. Lol

Criticize me all you want, at least I don't post under an anonymous account.
 

Safe Armor

Tier Whore. BS, GM, Mystic etc.
And if you cross over, the Ermac player can get up and anti air with a D4 for a full combo.

Why do you want a situation where one side has no options?
Those are what you call fighting games for ya, you can't have a all in one counter to everything.
If you think he is going to anti cross up you on his wake up then blow him up with a mid.

Edit: Can't!
 
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foxdie

Noob
Name a few. For educational purposes. :)
quan chi pretty much has unblockable setups and a vortex, along with d'vorah. sub zero's corner setups literally force you to just go yolo because he has almost 10 different options to choose from once that clone is out. all 3 of predators variations have shit that will just jail you and eat your 2 hits of armor.
 
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Safe Armor

Tier Whore. BS, GM, Mystic etc.
lol, I'm new to here but I've been playing fighting video games since the 90s.
@Tweedy

Also it isn't an attack, I'm a tier whore too (I main Mystic) and mained previous top tiers too.

My actual argument was that isn't as easy as to pick GM up and do well at majors.
 

foxdie

Noob
Love how I've destroyed your arguments, so it's just become an attack Tweedy thread. Lol

Criticize me all you want, at least I don't post under an anonymous account.
??? He's not even remotely "attacking" you... lol. He's trying to say that you're complaining as if ermac is such a broken character with his ex bf2 having armor, and that you should put your money where your mouth is and go main him to see how well you do.
 

Tweedy

Noob
??? He's not even remotely "attacking" you... lol. He's trying to say that you're complaining as if ermac is such a broken character with his ex bf2 having armor, and that you should put your money where your mouth is and go main him to see how well you do.
Lol, so in order to say a character has an unbalanced move, I must main them and place? According to people who do not even compete?

I never said the word "broken", either.

What I meant by attacking is that since I've destroyed your arguments, you're quickly making your arguments about me, rather than the current issue. I never said anything about you nor the dude on a hidey, I just effectively shutdown your dumb arguments with well thought out counterpoints. You guys quickly resorted to calling me a tier whore and saying that I need to place to have an opinion.

Which is the dumbest argument ever btw. If I post my opinion about every character, chances are i'll think that a few are too strong, unbalanced, dumb, or whatever you want to say. How could I main them all and place with them all simultaneously?
 

ExpectFlames

Lord of embers
lol, I'm new to here but I've been playing fighting video games since the 90s.
@Tweedy

Also it isn't an attack, I'm a tier whore too (I main Mystic) and mained previous top tiers too.

My actual argument was that isn't as easy as to pick GM up and do well at majors.
GM Will Own this meta, i would put money on at minimum 2 GM subzeros in top 8 at the next major. i would go as far to say i would expect 3-4 sz in top 8 period.
 

Tweedy

Noob
I could easily say "how about you play MKX and place at an offline tournament that's supplemented by NRS, if you want an opinion about MKXL", and that would be more legit than what you're saying to me, since I've actually done the challenge. Neither of you have done anything with Ermac, so why do I have to do something with Ermac to have an opinion?

Shut up.
 

ExpectFlames

Lord of embers
Lol, so in order to say a character has an unbalanced move, I must main them and place? According to people who do not even compete?

I never said the word "broken", either.

What I meant by attacking is that since I've destroyed your arguments, you're quickly making your arguments about me, rather than the current issue. I never said anything about you nor the dude on a hidey, I just effectively shutdown your dumb arguments with well thought out counterpoints. You guys quickly resorted to calling me a tier whore and saying that I need to place to have an opinion.

Which is the dumbest argument ever btw. If I post my opinion about every character, chances are i'll think that a few are too strong, unbalanced, dumb, or whatever you want to say. How could I main them all and place with them all simultaneously?
intersted on hearing your opinion of the current meta either way.
 

Tweedy

Noob
intersted on hearing your opinion of the current meta either way.
I feel like it's a little too soon for a definite meta to be established, or even definite top tier characters.

But when armor is toned down significantly, and a move remains that was ridiculous in the previous version, that character has an advantage. All i'll say.
 

1man3letters

Alpha Tarkatan - Moderator
Moderator
ya know every patch/hotfix i hope, maybe JUST MAYBE they fixed tremors pushback bug....

mileena had the same thing when game came out and they fixed her, why cant they fix poor tremor???
 

ExpectFlames

Lord of embers
I feel like it's a little too soon for a definite meta to be established, or even definite top tier characters.

But when armor is toned down significantly, and a move remains that was ridiculous in the previous version, that character has an advantage. All i'll say.
i feel like ive been being bullied for the past 100 games ive played without armor, im always out of stamina. ive uninstalled reinstalled. im haveing a midlife crisis. thats how i feel about the current patch.
 

foxdie

Noob
Lol, so in order to say a character has an unbalanced move, I must main them and place? According to people who do not even compete?

I never said the word "broken", either.

What I meant by attacking is that since I've destroyed your arguments, you're quickly making your arguments about me, rather than the current issue. I never said anything about you nor the dude on a hidey, I just effectively shutdown your dumb arguments with well thought out counterpoints. You guys quickly resorted to calling me a tier whore and saying that I need to place to have an opinion.

Which is the dumbest argument ever btw. If I post my opinion about every character, chances are i'll think that a few are too strong, unbalanced, dumb, or whatever you want to say. How could I main them all and place with them all simultaneously?
dude, you're not even taking into consideration that the problem might just be you being too stubborn to learn how to counter those moves... and you didn't shut anything down lol, all you did was say "well he just hits me with d4 on cross up anyway"... that's not exactly a "well thought out counter point". my point is that you and everyone else on these forums are giving this move WAY too much credit.
 

Tweedy

Noob
i feel like ive been being bullied for the past 100 games ive played without armor, im always out of stamina. ive uninstalled reinstalled. im haveing a midlife crisis. thats how i feel about the current patch.
Yeah, it can be rough. Try to rely more on blocking and poking. Maybe pick Mystic or Possessed so you can armor and don't have to worry about getting blown up for doing it, ever.
 

Tweedy

Noob
dude, you're not even taking into consideration that the problem might just be you being too stubborn to learn how to counter those moves... and you didn't shut anything down lol, all you did was say "well he just hits me with d4 on cross up anyway"... that's not exactly a "well thought out counter point". my point is that you and everyone else on these forums are giving this move WAY too much credit.
I never even brought myself into it. I just said that Ermac has the option to D4 cross overs. You assumed that I said that because I lose to D4 cross overs lol. Your entire argument is that I only say that because I lose to it, which does nothing to prove me incorrect. I could lose 1000 times or win 1000 times vs Ermac, it doesn't make D4 a bad option against cross overs. It's one of the best in the game.
 

Safe Armor

Tier Whore. BS, GM, Mystic etc.
I could easily say "how about you play MKX and place at an offline tournament that's supplemented by NRS, if you want an opinion about MKXL", and that would be more legit than what you're saying to me, since I've actually done the challenge. Neither of you have done anything with Ermac, so why do I have to do something with Ermac to have an opinion?

Shut up.
I got 50$ MM on the Mystic mirror, what's up?

Btw quick your bs propaganda, this is my original account.
 

Safe Armor

Tier Whore. BS, GM, Mystic etc.
I never even brought myself into it. I just said that Ermac has the option to D4 cross overs. You assumed that I said that because I lose to D4 cross overs lol. Your entire argument is that I only say that because I lose to it, which does nothing to prove me incorrect. I could lose 1000 times or win 1000 times vs Ermac, it doesn't make D4 a bad option against cross overs. It's one of the best in the game.
There are counters for both d4 and ex push on wake up, so the move isn't OP.
You want an easy one move to counter all options? lol