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Breakthrough - Takeda We made it. (10/3/2016) patch notes for Takeda

Shirai Ryu is literally garbage now. He has no wakeups besides bf2 which you can not get any damage because you have to use 2 bars to launch. EX TP is now extremely useless. It has no use besides in a combo which it is much easier to just do a block string that can be cancelled with bf1 or bf2 delay MB, if you do this it is a one bar launcher. They generally nerfed njp delays which was really useful to takeda it gave him a close up game. Now thats gone. They fucking ruined him. In my opinion the nerfs was too much. It heavily affected not only Ronin but all variations.
 

aieches

#freeHomelee2016
Shirai Ryu is literally garbage now. He has no wakeups besides bf2 which you can not get any damage because you have to use 2 bars to launch. EX TP is now extremely useless. It has no use besides in a combo which it is much easier to just do a block string that can be cancelled with bf1 or bf2 delay MB, if you do this it is a one bar launcher. They generally nerfed njp delays which was really useful to takeda it gave him a close up game. Now thats gone. They fucking ruined him. In my opinion the nerfs was too much. It heavily affected not only Ronin but all variations.
bro stahppppp

takeda is still good and far from garbage..


: edit - EX tele is prob poop ... but it was still kinda poop before also .. really only good for wake up and yolo attempts.
 
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Shirai Ryu is literally garbage now. He has no wakeups besides bf2 which you can not get any damage because you have to use 2 bars to launch. EX TP is now extremely useless. It has no use besides in a combo which it is much easier to just do a block string that can be cancelled with bf1 or bf2 delay MB, if you do this it is a one bar launcher. They generally nerfed njp delays which was really useful to takeda it gave him a close up game. Now thats gone. They fucking ruined him. In my opinion the nerfs was too much. It heavily affected not only Ronin but all variations.
 
bro stahppppp

takeda is still good and far from garbage..


: edit - EX tele is prob poop ... but it was still kinda poop before also .. really only good for wake up and yolo attempts.
I used te ex tele if I saw a person always back dashing in certain situations. Sometimes you can catch them when they jump back for the trip guard or just before they land, all reads really. I don't think he's that bad. Thought they were going to make the ex kunai a mid but hey I'll take it. I didn't really agree with taking the armour off the ball thing... But since the ex flurry having two armour hits it will do. Don't like what they did to the f4 though... But yeah everyone's big leg got adjusted so can't really complain to much. The plus frames were nice to have to keep the pressure going. Takeda will still be good, the rest of the cast also got touched and with this new meta, I think he'll be fine.
 
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Shirai Ryu is literally garbage now. He has no wakeups besides bf2 which you can not get any damage because you have to use 2 bars to launch. EX TP is now extremely useless. It has no use besides in a combo which it is much easier to just do a block string that can be cancelled with bf1 or bf2 delay MB, if you do this it is a one bar launcher. They generally nerfed njp delays which was really useful to takeda it gave him a close up game. Now thats gone. They fucking ruined him. In my opinion the nerfs was too much. It heavily affected not only Ronin but all variations.
You are really bad
 
I used te ex tele if I saw a person always back dashing in certain situations. Sometimes you can catch them when they jump back for the trip guard or just before they land, all reads really. I don't think he's that bad. Thought they were going to make the ex kunai a mid but hey I'll take it. I didn't really agree with taking the armour off the ball thing... But since the ex flurry having two armour hits it will do. Don't like what they did to the f4 though... But yeah everyone's big leg got adjusted so can't really complain to much. The plus frames were nice to have to keep the pressure going. Takeda will still be good, the rest of the cast also got touched and with this new meta, I think he'll be fine.
Y didn t you simply use the spear instead
 

Harlequin969

Always press buttons
Actually it doesn't matter that much since armored reversals rarely launch anymore.
You're right actually. It makes me wonder how much gaps in pressure strings matter now. Should we be less wary since the reward for punishing a gap isn't a full combo but rather a knockdown. A knockdown we can now contest because of two hits of armor on fist flurry.
 
Y didn t you simply use the spear instead
The spear doesn't reach all the way and the ex tele did launch. I do use spear when they're closer but not that often... More like a surprise move as I hardly use it unless I ended a combo with it. Unless what you're suggesting is something different... I'm not a great Takeda, I don't do pressure and stuff often. Read about the gap in the f122+4 close kunai... I always thought it had a gap there, probably why I didn't use it. Oh well, I still suck with Takeda!
 
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Harlequin969

Always press buttons
Something to be aware of for Ronin players. When doing his b21, drop, kall, d1, 21 flurry, make sure to do regular flurry then ex. I know some Ronin players liked to just go straight into ex flurry after the 21 but with the changes for the launch you have to for for regular flurry and then ex it.
 
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LastKarma

Under The Red Hood
I think shirai is fine. Just gotta change up how we pressure now. Like if we know they are gonna try to reversal the close kunai do the tele cancel instead. And remember. bf2 can still launch if you hit confirm it and then ex it.
 

Harlequin969

Always press buttons
Hum Ermac was top tier and he pretty much is the same same with Mileena
I remember it being the unarguable top 4 were Takeda, Mil, Alien and Sonya (not that order obviously). That 5th spot was always being switched around between like Ermac, Dvvorah, Kano, and others.