Discussion The 'Best to Worst' Variations For Each Character [5/22/16]

[GodsPhoenix11]

I think Nimble is better than Deceptive

nimble does seem better

 

[Pan1cMode]

I'd say High Tech is either Jacqui's best or the runner up.

No, High tech is probably her worst variation actually.

I agree with the order sg>fa>ht

Although it is debatable that full auto could be better than shotgun. Really, a lot of it is matchup dependent.

 

[EdenianWarrior]

It is. Not even a question. Venemous sucks in the current state of the game.

How so?

 

[GodsPhoenix11]

venomous is pretty gimmicky and compared to her other two variations not that great.

 

[Blewdew]

venomous is pretty gimmicky and compared to her other two variations not that great.

To be fair brood mother is not that great either

 

[GodsPhoenix11]

no but brrod mother covers some of the bad MU of swarm queen and is easier to play

 

[x-azeez]

@D7X some changes ... Tekken Master & Myself Discussed your List and we agree with most of the List, Except a few:

* Kotal Kahn:
1. War God
2. Blood God
3. Sun God

* Jax:
1. Heavy Weapons
2. Wrestler
3. Pumped Up

* Kenshi (( i'm a kenshi main ))
1. Balanced
2. Kenjitsu
3. Possessed

* Sonya Blade
1. Demolition
2. Covert ops
3. Special forces

* Triborg : Sektor is definitely not the best variation

* Alien : is Konjurer better Tarkatan ?

* Ermac :
1. Master of Souls
2. Mystic
3. Spectral (( currently his worst variations ... maybe one of the worst of the game ))

Takeda: all variations are super good, i played them all and all of are viable. IMO all variations are equal

Ronin: Has Fast overhead and a new set of strings and special moves

Shirai Ryu: has the teleport and and Ex Kunais. But Lacks a fast Armored move

Lasher: has JI1 and JI2 and a fast armored move (( -11 on block )) and leads to huge damage

 

[YoloRoll1stHit]

* Kenshi (( i'm a kenshi main ))
1. Balanced
2. Kenjitsu
3. Possessed

What the fack??? Oh yea, "i'm a kenshi main"

3. Spectral (( currently his worst variations ... maybe one of the worst of the game ))

You clearly know nothing about Ermac, just random assuming. Spectral is high mid tier variation, only slightly worse than Master of unsafe

 

[musgrave000]

Don't mind my input, as I'm sure everyone could sit here and debate all day, but I was under the impression from other people that Triborg went best to worst: Smoke - Sektor - Cyber Sub - Cyrax. I guess you learn something new every day.

 

[GodsPhoenix11]

all of ermacs variations are great but i agree the spectrals probably the worst, but balanced kenshi being the best is laughable, his zonings good against noobs and few MUs but hes bad

 

[GodsPhoenix11]

Don't mind my input, as I'm sure everyone could sit here and debate all day, but I was under the impression from other people that Triborg went best to worst: Smoke - Sektor - Cyber Sub - Cyrax. I guess you learn something new every day.

cyber got badly nerfed but the rest seems good

 

[Blewdew]

no but brrod mother covers some of the bad MU of swarm queen and is easier to play

Easier to Play? Her links are even more tight than SQ

 

[musgrave000]

cyber got badly nerfed but the rest seems good

Yeh I thought Cyrax and Cyber-sub got equally nerfed into oblivion, but Cyber-Sub just has better utilities/mobility than Cyrax. I'm no expert though, I was just surprised haha.

 

[D7X]

@D7X some changes ... Tekken Master & Myself Discussed your List and we agree with most of the List, Except a few:

* Kotal Kahn:
1. War God
2. Blood God
3. Sun God

* Jax:
1. Heavy Weapons
2. Wrestler
3. Pumped Up

* Kenshi (( i'm a kenshi main ))
1. Balanced
2. Kenjitsu
3. Possessed

* Sonya Blade
1. Demolition
2. Covert ops
3. Special forces

* Triborg : Sektor is definitely not the best variation

* Alien : is Konjurer better Tarkatan ?

* Ermac :
1. Master of Souls
2. Mystic
3. Spectral (( currently his worst variations ... maybe one of the worst of the game ))

Takeda: all variations are super good, i played them all and all of are viable. IMO all variations are equal

Ronin: Has Fast overhead and a new set of strings and special moves

Shirai Ryu: has the teleport and and Ex Kunais. But Lacks a fast Armored move

Lasher: has JI1 and JI2 and a fast armored move (( -11 on block )) and leads to huge damage

Sun God is definitely better than Blood imo. Wrestler is also I believe better than HE. Balanced Keyshia at the top? No...
Spectral I believe is the best. Covert Ops placement is highly debatable

 

[Unforgivxble]

Wrestler is Jax's best variation?? I'm hearing this a lot and it's kind of annoying. Wrestler is very unsafe, like extremely unsafe, and he has one of the worst command grabs in the game, he also loses the ability to hit confirm his 123 (to an extent, it gives new meaning to 12 oh and 123 because he now can just confirm the 3), f21 and f3. I'll take being completely safe over a pretty ass command grab.

 

[Sultani]

If Covert Ops is Sonya's worst variation, Sonya is the best character in the game.

 

[YoloRoll1stHit]

If Covert Ops is Sonya's worst variation, Sonya is the best character in the game.

The only variation that gets 4-6 by anyone having a decent projectile. CO's matchup chart SUCKS. It's not April 2015 anymore, her 50/50 isn't really a big threat in CO because she lacks a tool to abuse it properly. And Sonya is close to be the best character with Demolition being the candidate for top 5 variations

 

[Osagri]

Wrestler is Jax's best variation?? I'm hearing this a lot and it's kind of annoying. Wrestler is very unsafe, like extremely unsafe, and he has one of the worst command grabs in the game, he also loses the ability to hit confirm his 123 (to an extent, it gives new meaning to 12 oh and 123 because he now can just confirm the 3), f21 and f3. I'll take being completely safe over a pretty ass command grab.

How is wrestler very unsafe?

 

[SneakyTortoise]

@D7X some changes ... Tekken Master & Myself Discussed your List and we agree with most of the List, Except a few:


* Kenshi (( i'm a kenshi main ))
1. Balanced
2. Kenjitsu
3. Possessed

Absolutely not. In no way is balanced better than kenjutsu or possessed

 

[SwegZero]

Compbros is The best spec ops Player

Yes, but is he better than Fox?

 

[SwegZero]

Absolutely not. In no way is balanced better than kenjutsu or possessed

How?

 

[Trauma_and_Pain]

* Kenshi (( i'm a kenshi main ))
1. Balanced
2. Kenjitsu
3. Possessed

I don't play Kenshi but I do know this is an unpopular opinion. Kenshi mains tend to feel quite strongly that Balanced is easily the worst.

* Triborg : Sektor is definitely not the best variation

Also disagree with this.

Wrestler is very unsafe, like extremely unsafe, and he has one of the worst command grabs in the game,

I play a little Wrestler on the side and I'm not sure what you're talking about. Jax doesn't have to be unsafe in any variation. Several strings are even plus on block. If he's unsafe it's because you're choosing to take risks.

One of the worst command grabs? He can choose whether to side switch or not without meter. Sign me up. So jealous of that as a F/T player. It's damage is totally on par with other grabs and it's 11 frames. The only thing that's not great about it is that it doesn't leave him plus.

 

[kabelfritz]

tbh i dont think the op has in depth knowledge of every variation in the game so this is a lot of "ive heard it somewhere" and superficial training room knowledge.

 

[Trauma_and_Pain]

tbh i dont think the op has in depth knowledge of every variation in the game so this is a lot of "ive heard it somewhere" and superficial training room knowledge.

Just the way it should be. I would be concerned if all this was just OP's opinion. The entire community weighing in is way more accurate.

 

[honeybooboo]

By any chance can somebody make a "guide to beating xyz character" listing the kasts gameplan and how to beat them. Something newbies, and myself, can refer to often. Would be quite helpful