buyacushun
Normalize grab immunity.
What needs to happen is one of three things:
- Teleport's input gets changed from D,U to something else.
- Delayed wake up's input gets changed.
- Teleport requires a button press instead of just directions.
What needs to happen is one of three things:
Agreed
I've been using D2 and when I'm comfortable I'll use F1.That's all I could really say about it.
Beats jik clean most the time. I personally prefer njp because it's a more natural conversion and more dmg
which variation you playing?
Displacer
I thought DU was a bad input from day one because whenever I want to instant njp from crouching it teleports and every now and then ill just jump up instead of teleport which sucks
I only started playing displacer a little bit ago after giving up on MoS and someone mentioned how good some of his things actually are. Like theoretically being able to get out of anything with ex teleport. Too bad the inputs are sucky and overlap with common stuff. Played against an Erron that had no problem sliding at me. So now I'm constantly crouching but if he does like a run and I try to NJP it I get teleport and fucked up.
That's my consensus on Raiden too.
If it doesn't become faster then he'd have a 10f mid while standing still. He needs f2 to hit reliably. I'd like b1 and b11 to be less negative to try and get some stagger stuff going. But Raiden would need a few frame changes to really get any good pressure going. He used to have a quick mid to mix in with other buttons so he gets a chance to do stuff but since he has a 50/50 and superman he can't have any other nice things
Basically press b2, immediately press down, wait until the first hit makes contact, then press and hold up. With a low poke, say d3, it would be d,3,u, and you can cancel that way. It took me a long time to get hang the hang of this, but once you do it's nice to know you can throw those in there every once in awhile just to mix things up.
its his only launcher that hits mid
Lol "wait until the first hit makes contact", you must really be on a hitbox cause I don't see how I'm going to that on pad. Whenever I try the cancel it just feels like b2du. Like it's all one input with no real time to "wait". I can input the "D,U" before the second hit of B2 comes out but the move is so far along that it doesn't "count". And I think it has a shorter window than all the other special moves. Everything just feels off with the teleport input.
Yeah a hitbox really helps. It feels like letting the first hit make contact between the down and up inputs is really the key. It's definitely a weird cancel and I didn't even think it was possible until I saw someone on here talking about it. I finally chose to hunker down and learn it, and while I can do it fine in practice it's still not the easiest thing to pull off in the heat of actual battle.
B11 is just as negative on block as f24. In game frame data is wrong.
Why are you talking about F24? I didn't know it was -9 though.
It's so weird I don't even think I'd bother with it when I feel there are better buttons to cancel in to teleport with. Does b2xxTeleport need to be EX to actually be effective? As in not get punished and/or give you some more pressure or mixups.
It depends really. It doesn't create a ton of advantage or anything, but if you use it here and there you can really throw people off because they're expecting the second hit of the overhead. It's a psychological tool really. It's kinda like how after I throw a few 214s out there, I'll start mixing in 21 b2 since they're now expecting a low. Although it tends to appear unwise on paper, it works most of the time just because of conditioning.
What I sense from hanging around the forums is that Displacer is generally considered his best variation from Raiden players, but none Raiden players assume Thunder God is his only viable variation. It's kind of weird really. Perhaps with PL using him in tournaments we might start to see more people try him out.
Because those are his 2 mid strings...
