What's new

Move List Secret/Hidden Brutality List

Pterodactyl

Plus on block.
You have to hold RT + D very very early in it.

Also, I've been looking through the game files, and the character flips are definitely intentional and hidden. All the characters that have them have several references to "Character_Victory_Stance_Flip". It seems like they had to do some extra for Kung Lao's to work too because of his hat.

I've also found some very interesting things if people would like to look into
  • Johnny has a special interaction when buttons are pressed whilst being EX Nut Punch brutal by Cassie
  • Krossroads has a brutality from throwing the skull at someone blocking, however it was never put into the game. I believe it may proc on Training Room though.
  • Jinsei Chamber had a brutality put in but was never enabled
  • Jacqui's BF4 EX (i think, might be another one) has a special reaction if she does it against hersel
  • Jax has a special interaction from his gotcha grab brutality on Quan Chi and Sonya while in his MK3 costume. Also maybe scorpion
  • Jax also has an unlisted and possible non-enabled brutality from his BF4 EX
  • Easily the best point: they literally call Mileena's brutality The Muffdive [ Brutality_2_Mileena_MuffdiveRx ]
I found all of that from references in the game files. Sadly, Liu Kang's is super empty outside of: "dragonfire_chargefist_fire_loop" . Here's hoping he charges his fist with fire or something during one of them?
What do you mean by "special interaction" exactly?
 

The Celebrity

Professional Googler
What do you mean by "special interaction" exactly?
Couldn't tell ya man, I don't know yet, but here are some snippets of the game files:

During the Gotcha Grab Brutality the game checks if the player's name is Quan Chi or Sonya:
CharacterObj_CheckForBrutalityAndStartHasBrutalityStartedSpecialmove_GotchaGrab_Hit_2pl_EXSpecialmove_GotchaGrab_Hit_2pl_EX_Victim_MBSpecialmove_GotchaGrab_Hit_2pl_EX_VictimPLAYER_INFO_GetCharacterNamesonyaappStristrquanchihit_body_combo_enderscorpion

I presume its with a hidden input on them two. Those specific files only show up on the MK3 skin from what I could see.

And his BF4 EX Unlisted Brutality, I might be misinterpreting it though. Either way, this one is not active so its irrelevant:
BrutalitySpecialmove_KneeUpperknee_uppercut_whooshAllowInteractableReactionOverrideRxKneeUpperEX_NOGRAV, %0.1fChin09_Uppercut_Land_FrontAir11_Back_BounceRxKneeUpperEX_NOGRAV blendframe = %fSpecialmove_KneeUpper_EXrandu0jax

Guess I may as well put my reasoning for Johnny's too:
CharacterObj_SetAttackBrutalityReactionAniToLastCollisionFramecagejr nutkracker outHasBrutalityStartedSpecialmove_Nutpunch_EXcagejr

This is pulled from Johnny and he is the only character to require the game to check if Cassie (CageJR) has done her brutality. Some brutalities like Goro + Subzero check everytime but only Johnny's checks for Cassie. It also specifically looks for the hidden one from her, nutpunch EX.
 
Last edited:

Skedar70

Noob
I was able to do the Mileena twice but I still don´t know if its a timing thing or if its somethind that needs some sort of requirement.???
 

Syzoth

The last Saurian from Zaterra - Syzoth - Reptile
Couldn't tell ya man, I don't know yet, but here are some snippets of the game files:


I presume its with a hidden input on them two. Those specific files only show up on the MK3 skin from what I could see.


Maybe your on to something but man it could just trigger specific dialogue. Makes sense with their relationships. Thanks for sharing so much code with us:)
 

1man3letters

Alpha Tarkatan - Moderator
Moderator
@Syzoth jamessmk was saying on his stream last night he believes the turn back to camera ones are not secret ones and just bugs/glitch, that we wasting our time trying to focus on ones like that.

also the you dont have buttons listed in op, he showed the predator one to be hold l2+r2 when the trap pulls them off the screen
 

XxTheGoblinX

Le_Supreme_
@Syzoth jamessmk was saying on his stream last night he believes the turn back to camera ones are not secret ones and just bugs/glitch, that we wasting our time trying to focus on ones like that.

also the you dont have buttons listed in op, he showed the predator one to be hold l2+r2 when the trap pulls them off the screen
This isnt a bug, the fact that you have to press specific buttons at the right time means it was meant to be put into the game.
 

1man3letters

Alpha Tarkatan - Moderator
Moderator
This isnt a bug, the fact that you have to press specific buttons at the right time means it was meant to be put into the game.
just relaying the info was told.
id be more inclined to believe it was meant to be a "secret" if one of those button wasn't switch stance and since all all other hidden one actually change the death/whole new animation rather than show there ass to camera, asstality?
 

XxTheGoblinX

Le_Supreme_
just relaying the info was told.
id be more inclined to believe it was meant to be a "secret" if one of those button wasn't switch stance and since all all other hidden one actually change the death/whole new animation rather than show there ass to camera, asstality?
Lmao I see your point, but idk maybe its disrespectful to the salty loser
 

Goat-City

Banned
just relaying the info was told.
id be more inclined to believe it was meant to be a "secret" if one of those button wasn't switch stance and since all all other hidden one actually change the death/whole new animation rather than show there ass to camera, asstality?
It doesn't require switch stance though, at least not all of them. The fact that you have to hold down and R2 as well like other hidden brutalities makes it obviously intentional.
 

ismael4790

Stay focused or get Caged
With the Jax brutality:

Jax:
Turn your back post gotcha grab brutality
(Hold down, 1, block, and stance change)

It is not necessary to hold 1.

Any Cage secret brutalities found? :)
 

TrulyAmiracle

Loud and Klear~
Seeing how EB's and Reptile's are i'd start looking at the brutalities that have something extra or mainly different. Like the ones that only chop the legs off maybe (jacqui HT ground pound, Takeda string, tremor rolling stone, kenshi teleflurry, Mileena roll, reptile slide etc)? Or ones like Kotal's saw brutal where the body is just sitting there? Shinnok's face off brutal? Tanya's ex flip brutal? It always looks like she's about to pick up their head after it flies off their body, maybe that's the brutalception.
 

PND_Ketchup

"More deadly than the dawn"
Currently working on a video with a couple of Sorcerer brutality tidbits that may have been missed.

Still searching for if the one I found is a bug or if it's consistent in some way.
 

TQT1995

Scrub - Zero
Which combinations did you exactly try? I pick up from where you ended, and try some more.
1-no
2-no
3-no
4-no
R1-no
R2-no
L1-no
L2-no
F-no
B-no
U-no
D-no

F+1-no
F+2-no
F+3-no
F+4-no

B+1-no
B+2-no
B+3-no
B+4-no

D+1-no
D+2-no
D+3-no
D+4-no

U+1-no
U+2-no
U+3-no
U+4-no

L2+1-no
L2+2-no
L2+3-no
L2+4-no

R2+1-no
R2+2-no
R2+3-no
R2+4-no

L1+1-no
L1+2-no
L1+3-no
L1+4-no

R1+1-no
R1+2-no
R1+3-no
R1+4-no



R2+L1-no
R2+R1-no
R2+L2-no



R2+L2+1-no
R2+L2+2-no
R2+L2+3-no
R2+L2+4-no

R2


R2+L2+U-no
R2+L2+D-no
R2+L2+B-no
R2+L2+F-no

R2+L2+1+U-no
R2+L2+1+D-no
R2+L2+1+B-no
R2+L2+1+F-no

R2+L2+2+U-no
R2+L2+2+D-no
R2+L2+2+B-no
R2+L2+2+F-no

R2+L2+3+U-no
R2+L2+3+D-no
R2+L2+3+B-no
R2+L2+3+F-no

R2+L2+4+U-no
R2+L2+4+D-no
R2+L2+4+B-no
R2+L2+4+F-no


R2+R1+1-NO
R2+R1+2-NO
R2+R1+3-NO
R2+R1+4-NO

R2+R1+U-no
R2+R1+D-no
R2+R1+B-no
R2+R1+F-no

R2+R1+1+U-no
R2+R1+1+D-no
R2+R1+1+B-no
R2+R1+1+F-no

R2+R1+2+U-no
R2+R1+2+D-no
R2+R1+2+B-no
R2+R1+2+F-no


R2+R1+3+U-no
R2+R1+3+D-no
R2+R1+3+B-no
R2+R1+3+F-no

R2+R1+4+U-no
R2+R1+4+D-no
R2+R1+4+B-no
R2+R1+4+F-no

R2+L1+1-no
R2+L1+2-no
R2+L1+3-no
R2+L1+4-no

R2+L1+1+U-no
R2+L1+1+D-no
R2+L1+1+B-no
R2+L1+1+F-no

R2+L1+2+U-no
R2+L1+2+D-no
R2+L1+2+B-no
R2+L1+2+F-no

R2+L1+3+U-no
R2+L1+3+D-no
R2+L1+3+B-no
R2+L1+3+F-no

L2+1+U-NO
L2+1+D-NO
L2+1+B-NO
L2+1+F-NO

L2+2+U-NO
L2+2+D-NO
L2+2+B-no
L2+2+F-no

L2+3+U-no
L2+3+D-no
L2+3+B-no
L2+3+F-no

L2+4+U-no
L2+4+D-no
L2+4+B-no
L2+4+F-no

L2+L1-NO

L2+L1+U-NO
L2+L1+D-
L2+L1+B-
L2+L1+F-

L2+L1+R2

D-B-2=NO
DF2=NO
FF2-NO
BF4-NO
UD2-no
FB2-NO
BDF2-NO
BDF1-no
DBF4-no

NO= Doesn't work
 

The Celebrity

Professional Googler
I give up. I'm going nowhere with this.
I looked into this brutality too thinking there'd be something and there wasn't. I also looked at his slide one in unbreakable, and after looking into the files I think there may actually be something there. I tested the 35 combinations or so and nothing but the files show that the game checks twice during this brutality. Once on the first hit (slide) and once on the ice ball hitting. Now this could just be to see if it kills the opponent, more than likely really, but that's the only thing different about Subzero I really saw in there. The only other thing that peaked my interest was how many times Shinnok stolen iceball uppercut was mentioned, they had to jump through mad hoops to get that to work it seems.