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People want your character NERFED. Why should s/he stay the way they are?

Pan1cMode

AUS FGC represent!
I dont think you realize that if they nerf the rune it would SERIOUSLY hit the other 2 variations more than summoner right? Summoner is the problem here , as for summoner i think if they make low bat hit mid but make it so theres no cool down would be fair , so he would shift to zoning more , and they should remove combing off skull completely
This is not true, sorcerer is already broken af anyways.

If I correctly guess a 50/50, you shouldn't be guaranteed another one straight away. They will never make low bat hit mid because it directly goes against their intentions for the character. Let him keep his bullshit unblockable crap but make it so you can't constantly loop it or use bat again in the same combo for more damage.

Sure, let him stay plus, make me respect a d1/d3, but I sure as hell should g have to block 3 50/50s correctly to have a chance of punishing Quan. That's some grade A bullshit.
 

STRYKIE

Are ya' ready for MK11 kids?!
This is not true, sorcerer is already broken af anyways.

If I correctly guess a 50/50, you shouldn't be guaranteed another one straight away. They will never make low bat hit mid because it directly goes against their intentions for the character. Let him keep his bullshit unblockable crap but make it so you can't constantly loop it or use bat again in the same combo for more damage.

Sure, let him stay plus, make me respect a d1/d3, but I sure as hell should g have to block 3 50/50s correctly to have a chance of punishing Quan. That's some grade A bullshit.
It will hurt Warlock too. Part of Warlock's strength in zoning is that it's that the only variation that can jail after a blocked MB rune anywhere on screen with F3. MB rune into another rune already isn't a thing and I don't get why more people don't attempt to interrupt it lol.

I suppose NRS could make it +11 and increase the startup on B3 to 12 frames (potentially in exchange for a slightly better hitbox).
 

WiseM0nkey

welcome to the ButtSlam
1. He didn't place at evo. And is the only quan to top 8 multiple times. He's a good player with a good character. Ex. sonicfox with kitana.

2. Sorcerers only placing. Again, great player with great character.

3. It was a regional. Gonna count the locals I won as well?

4. Oh a weekly! #nerfquan

5. If by loads you mean 1 in EU and 1 in NA in 6 weeks of season two then oh boy.

Try again sir.
yeh sorry man, i forgot about you...

seriously tho, Quan's are everywhere and you know it
 

EMPEROR PRYCE

WAR SEASON "THE WEAK EXPOSED!"
This would be perfect

Don't nerf any characters this patch, just buff all the lowtier and midtier for now. Then after more tournaments if there is still somebody that's obviously dominating then nerf
Idk about this.

You don't put crazy into crazy to tame it. You have to take the crazy out.

Remember, its all about balance and it makes no sense to buff everyone else because 2 or 3 are OP. Which I'm sure you know lol I just don't think it'd be such a wise idea.
 
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Eldriken

Guest
Actually people who are complete scrubs ONLINE can get out of all of erron's tick throw by mashing buttons.
You can just neutral duck after 21 of the string and if erron tick throws you full combo punish him....Generally i press 21122 dbf2 in a kinda slow way, so I'm pretty sure erron players aren't going to hit confirm off of while inputting the command grab immediately let it go through their brain that this guy's neutral ducking immediately press db4 so IMO its pretty easy to get out of it.No kill pls
Online tactics? Really?

I normally never say this, but...

I seriously stopped reading after "scrubs ONLINE".
 
This is not true, sorcerer is already broken af anyways.

If I correctly guess a 50/50, you shouldn't be guaranteed another one straight away. They will never make low bat hit mid because it directly goes against their intentions for the character. Let him keep his bullshit unblockable crap but make it so you can't constantly loop it or use bat again in the same combo for more damage.

Sure, let him stay plus, make me respect a d1/d3, but I sure as hell should g have to block 3 50/50s correctly to have a chance of punishing Quan. That's some grade A bullshit.
Sorcrer is literally variationless untill he opens you up and loses to most of the character that have multihitting moves , so again , no rune is fine and sorcrer is fine you are prolly the only one who thinks that sorcrer is broken lol.
 

xxFalcon Loverxx

Ignorant slaves, how quickly you forget.
This is not true, SORCERER is already broken af anyways.

If I correctly guess a 50/50, you shouldn't be guaranteed another one straight away. They will never make low bat hit mid because it directly goes against their intentions for the character. Let him keep his bullshit unblockable crap but make it so you can't constantly loop it or use bat again in the same combo for more damage.

Sure, let him stay plus, make me respect a d1/d3, but I sure as hell should g have to block 3 50/50s correctly to have a chance of punishing Quan. That's some grade A bullshit.
wut
 

21122

Noob
Erron: F3 + 42 (outlaw) needs a buff, 1 should be a mid starter, DB4 sand gust needs armour or less recovery. Sand trap more plus. No nerfs, he is fine as is.
 

Undergroundepict

I am like the blue rose
Now does the OS really need to go, after doing some thought on this I weighted the strengths and weaknesses of the overhead. Because its not special cancel able on block we cannot, be fully unsafe when throwing out buffered EX overheads but we also can't be -4 throwing out GG's. Because we can't RC we can't opt to use it as our 50/50 method and condition our opponent simultaneously. The range is up close, the overhead on whiff is easily whiff punished. We have a gap in our low starter which especially in Wrestler and PU where we cannot make it safe. All of our pokes don't let us jail an B2 outside of D4 with the opponent in the corner meaning that even after putting the work into opening our opponent up and hitconfirming a poke we can still get armored. It is only jailled from a few select strings.
Referring to the properties of B2 on block as an option select is a misnomer. An "option select" implies that you have some sort of option as to whether or not you want it to come out or not. B2 simply cannot be cancelled on block. Somebody way back in the day called it an option select (as they were only viewing it from the perspective of B2 into Overhead Dash Punch) and we all just kind of rolled with it, as the game was previously filled with all kinds of retarded option selects anyways. It serves as the exact opposite of an option select for me. It prevents me from doing potentially much more advantageous moves, more often than not.


This is not the thread to discuss potential buffs, I know, but I feel that B2 should jail into Energy Wave (like S4 and S3), and that LAW cancels out of it in HW should be plus. It has a startup of 18 frames, so it's not like any of those things would promote a whole lot of dirt.
 

QUAN-FUSION

Crotch-puncher
This is not true, sorcerer is already broken af anyways.

If I correctly guess a 50/50, you shouldn't be guaranteed another one straight away. They will never make low bat hit mid because it directly goes against their intentions for the character. Let him keep his bullshit unblockable crap but make it so you can't constantly loop it or use bat again in the same combo for more damage.

Sure, let him stay plus, make me respect a d1/d3, but I sure as hell should g have to block 3 50/50s correctly to have a chance of punishing Quan. That's some grade A bullshit.
Says the batgirl player..
 

xxFalcon Loverxx

Ignorant slaves, how quickly you forget.
Nerf my chars all you want, once the patch comes I'll be playing cyrax anyway.
Wait a minute! This just made me realize that i don't care about any other character than cyrax!Yellow 4 life boyz.So why do i care?nerf 'em all you want boys!I have a meeting with someone.