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What is your favorite Variation?

  • War God

    Votes: 170 42.0%
  • Sun God

    Votes: 139 34.3%
  • Blood God

    Votes: 61 15.1%
  • All Equally

    Votes: 35 8.6%

  • Total voters
    405

RM Ree

Shiba Tamer
Lol sorry it's just pretty disorganized in the Kotal forums, thought this might be faster. I found the info before the reply, but I had to dig for it. Is there frame data for the totems too?
 

RM Ree

Shiba Tamer
@StealthyMuffin I thought you were joking lol I asked the same question like, 2 posts above yours. It's +4.

I'm curious as to how we get these numbers. Can you math this info out just looking at the frame data in game?
 

Qwark28

Joker waiting room
I didn't discover it but it was tested in the first few days and later on I tested it myself. You can confirm it by doing it with another person and then setting the CPU to do certain frame moves as reversals.
 

RM Ree

Shiba Tamer
Awesome, thanks. I was going to ask about the blood offering buff next. It doesn't seem as good as totem or air throw.
 

mkl

Poopbutt.
The same can be said if you guess wrong right? So why not parry anyways?
30 frames of vulnerability is far worse in most cases than having trust in your defense. 30 frames means they can get whatever they want in their entire arsenal. Plus, if it isn't just a single hit 50/50 then you're going to either have to keep parrying or have enough presence of mind to block the correct option. For example, Quan Chi does b2~close EX rune or b34~close EX rune. If you parry the first hit of either you're going to have to parry the rest or block correctly (in this case you don't even get a punish if you parry EX rune). If you miss the parry he'll get a free hit punish.
 

honeybooboo

I speak truth, no lie
30 frames of vulnerability is far worse in most cases than having trust in your defense. 30 frames means they can get whatever they want in their entire arsenal. Plus, if it isn't just a single hit 50/50 then you're going to either have to keep parrying or have enough presence of mind to block the correct option. For example, Quan Chi does b2~close EX rune or b34~close EX rune. If you parry the first hit of either you're going to have to parry the rest or block correctly (in this case you don't even get a punish if you parry EX rune). If you miss the parry he'll get a free hit punish.
Got you, i just feel like at this point in the games life somebody would be utilizing the parry far more effectively besides avoiding chip. If i had the knowledge to know all the 50/50's in the game id be on that shit with possibly the swaggiest blood god. Also for your example, i thought if you parry'd certain strings your opponent cant cancel into any specials?
 

mkl

Poopbutt.
Got you, i just feel like at this point in the games life somebody would be utilizing the parry far more effectively besides avoiding chip. If i had the knowledge to know all the 50/50's in the game id be on that shit with possibly the swaggiest blood god. Also for your example, i thought if you parry'd certain strings your opponent cant cancel into any specials?
Oh shit, you're right he can't even cancel those. He still has the multihitting b3 option which is a bitch to parry. I think it is under used as well but it is so god damn risky sometimes. In the Takeda MU you either pick WG or learn to be a parry god.
 

honeybooboo

I speak truth, no lie
Oh shit, you're right he can't even cancel those. He still has the multihitting b3 option which is a bitch to parry. I think it is under used as well but it is so god damn risky sometimes. In the Takeda MU you either pick WG or learn to be a parry god.
Just food for thought, seeing that this game is dominated by 50/50 or so i have been told
 

Qwark28

Joker waiting room
I come with some scalps for the sun god and maybe a re-retirement.

I played in the first of a 6 tournament series my local scene is organising for a ticket to a foreign tournament. I ended up going 2-2 and getting 4th.

First game was vs Tanya which I won 2-1
Second game was vs a super safe Kung jin which I lost 2-0
Third game was vs a GM Sub which I played with War god, lost, went to Sun god and forced him to switch to KL when I beat him 1-1 and eventually 2-1
Fourth game I lost by meeting the Tanya I beat earlier.

After seeing Tanya, I'm as close to methaporically vomiting as one can get. There is no point to playing Sun god in that matchup and I only like Sun god so tough titties.
 

mkl

Poopbutt.
What's everybody's three characters they either feel uncomfortable handling with Kotal or straight up swap characters?

Mine are Reptile, Ferra/Torr, Predator.
 

jharris

I'm not surprised, motherfuckers
What's everybody's three characters they either feel uncomfortable handling with Kotal or straight up swap characters?

Mine are Reptile, Ferra/Torr, Predator.
Agree with predator (hqt) , and reptile, would change ft for gunslinger erron
 

Pterodactyl

Plus on block.
What's everybody's three characters they either feel uncomfortable handling with Kotal or straight up swap characters?

Mine are Reptile, Ferra/Torr, Predator.
I'd have to say Mileena, Jax, and Liu. HQT is uncomfortable for me with anyone, except for maybe Tremor.


That said, no one gives me more trouble than trying to fight a Blood God Kotal while using Sun God.