What benefit would being able to meter burn the shroud late give?Since the teleport nerf, Pyromancer has been suffering as her worst variation.
I have the following suggestions, Pyro players go ahead and add your own ideas!
Pyromancer in my opinion needs these, to be back to its former GLoRy:
Pyromancer to gain Kobu Jutsu's B1 where she hits overhead, but no Tonfa thus no armour break property to it.
Pyromancer to gain B1 followup D2 - a low hit with fire and hard knockdown. -11 on block.
Pyromancer to gain B1 followup 2+4 - a mid hit with fire. +2 on block.
Pyromancer to gain B1 followup 4 - an overhead kick with hard knockdown. -11 on block.
Pyromancer's Meter Burn Shroud to be +14 on block.
Pyromancer's Shroud and Meter Burn Shroud to be Meter Burnable at all frames not just immediately.
Pyromancer's Shroud and Meter Burn Shroud to restand if hit mid-air like Trance, Nut Punch etc.
The gap between b3 and 1 in B31 to be removed. There is still a gap between 1 and 2 in B312.
PS: If you come in here just to gripe at my suggestions but you don't even play Pyro, don't even bother posting. Be constructive or go back asking for Quan buffs. XD
If it were possible, perhaps remove teleport from Kobu and leave it up to these two variations, with its old version. But I doubt they'd do that.Well, it turns out she needed her teleport as it was designed.
The only way to make Pyro and DN viable is to restore her teleport properties. This includes armor on her Tele.
If not, make her fireballs less negative. By a lot.
I was going with what other characters have, no need to start insulting. D'Vorah for instance, has way more + frames than 14 and it's not even meterburn, while that character also has damaging setups and combos, great zoning and excellent reach. Many of which Pyromancer does not and will not have. I could mention Shinnok hellsparks too which in fact lead to much more than EX Shroud would this way.Shroud being +14 on block is stupid and unecessary.
Sorry, I shouldn't have been so rough in my delivery, I just meant that it would be broken for her to have that. I understand that other characters may have plus on block moves but which of these are also armoured and would lead to a free 50/50 situation?I was going with what other characters have, no need to start insulting. D'Vorah for instance, has way more + frames than 14 and it's not even meterburn, while that character also has damaging setups and combos, great zoning and excellent reach. Many of which Pyromancer does not and will not have. I could mention Shinnok hellsparks too which in fact lead to much more than EX Shroud would this way.
Know the feeling. Though not just ex shroud. Shroud to restand, period...Sorry, I shouldn't have been so rough in my delivery, I just meant that it would be broken for her to have that. I understand that other characters may have plus on block moves but which of these are also armoured and would lead to a free 50/50 situation?
If they made her overall zoning better she wouldn't need stupid pressure. A balance between the two would be nice. Making ex shroud restand would set up her pressure game heaps and slight +frames would make her pressure game much more in her favour. Anything more than +5 would be pretty excessive.
Again, I apologise for my tone haha. It's exam time for me and I've been stressing like mad, didn't mean to take it out on you.
Off topic I know but what are you studying? I can totally picture your Aussie ass being a chemist! Unf.Sorry, I shouldn't have been so rough in my delivery, I just meant that it would be broken for her to have that. I understand that other characters may have plus on block moves but which of these are also armoured and would lead to a free 50/50 situation?
If they made her overall zoning better she wouldn't need stupid pressure. A balance between the two would be nice. Making ex shroud restand would set up her pressure game heaps and slight +frames would make her pressure game much more in her favour. Anything more than +5 would be pretty excessive.
Again, I apologise for my tone haha. It's exam time for me and I've been stressing like mad, didn't mean to take it out on you.
You have Johnny in your avatar and A-List as your banner.Ex dusk doesnt need +14.
No character needs that
Completely off topic but I'm actually studying medicine. My undergrad major was pharmacology though so not far off hahaha.Off topic I know but what are you studying? I can totally picture your Aussie ass being a chemist! Unf.
Also, I would like the gap to removed from B3,1(gap)2. Allow it resemble B3,2 from DN.
Ehhh thing is, I don't want her to be super OP, just useable haha. It's like Jacqui currently. It's not like she's OP, but all her variations are useable and have a unique play style. Makes her fun to use.Know the feeling. Though not just ex shroud. Shroud to restand, period...
And I understand where you're coming from with stuff being over the top but look at the opponents we're facing and their tools.
Guaranteed off every string? Loopable as long as you have meter.. Not to mention entirely different character design, johnny cage is rushdown and has relatively slow normalsYou have Johnny in your avatar and A-List as your banner.
She's useable currently. I want this variation to go toe to toe with Shinnok again. All it used to need is for teleport to go through hellsparks to cover that.Ehhh thing is, I don't want her to be super OP, just useable