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Kabal Nomad Dash Invulnerability glitch

GGA soonk

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I've only had this happen when starting off with the following:
JK~GB, dash 4~Nomad Dash
After the Nomad Dash, the opponent is invulnerable to certain attacks for at least half of the spin animation, and which ones seem dependent on how close you are when you do the standing 4 or maybe how deep the JK is(or maybe the two go hand in hand).
Lows always hit. D1 always hits as well.
Overheads usually hit.
Highs will miss, even if they're considered mids.

Here's a vid showing what happens. Not really game breaking, because who's going to do this combo? I was just playing around with new combos and ended up not working out for me D:
 

REO

Undead
I've had this issue occur to me on several occasions (thanks to the input bug) and it has something to do with the new delay on the 4~nomad dash. This problem never used to appear on the old 4~nomad dash. I would like if they resolved this but in the meantime we can end with f+4 when we get the 4 input bug in juggles so it's not a major issue.
 

GGA soonk

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I've had this issue occur to me on several occasions (thanks to the input bug) and it has something to do with the new delay on the 4~nomad dash. This problem never used to appear on the old 4~nomad dash. I would like if they resolved this but in the meantime we can end with f+4 when we get the 4 input bug in juggles so it's not a major issue.
True, but if you didn't know about it you might try to do another jk~GB, F4 and wonder why Kabal just goes through your opponent. Hardly game breaking, just a loss on some damage and one more stupid thing to deal with in MK9.
 

xxteefxx

Kenshi Moderator
I know of this and remember it. i think the reason is, opponent still considered in air? while the animation shows they are on the ground?

same thing can be done with Cyrax net. so by means, there're time were if opponent is still in the air and u did Dash/ Net , it will catch them in situation were some of the moves/normals or specials wont hit them.

with the Cyrax net, u cant even hit with normals....only low attack or Special med i guess. something like b+2, or 1,2,1 wont connect (regular med and high)
 

GGA soonk

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I know of this and remember it. i think the reason is, opponent still considered in air? while the animation shows they are on the ground?

same thing can be done with Cyrax net. so by means, there're time were if opponent is still in the air and u did Dash/ Net , it will catch them in situation were some of the moves/normals or specials wont hit them.

with the Cyrax net, u cant even hit with normals....only low attack or Special med i guess. something like b+2, or 1,2,1 wont connect (regular med and high)
If they were considered in the air, why would low attacks work? It's almost like it cuts their hitbox in half or less. What's weird is I can't get this to work with 4~Nomad Dash from any other string(like B121, 4~ND or NJP, 4~ND), just the jk GB.
 

xxteefxx

Kenshi Moderator
hmmm...very interesting.

let me look into it deeply tomorrow lol...maybe i can come up with an explanation . i dont think it's just like, any low attack...i think it's more of a Hurtbox/hitbox issue that happens at such time. MAYBE EVEN invincibility
the only explanation i can think of is, it's intended by NRS to do it that way due to the reason that Such stun time (whether net or dash) has caused opponent to be stunned as IF HE'S BEEN ON GROUND and not air...technically resulting in a gravity reset, and MAYBE EVEN possible infinites in some situations.

the cyrax Net, i remember brady talked about the infinite that has been removed using the net. pretty much the SAME exact concept of what i am saying. that landing a net Right before the ground, resulting in a complete gravity reset which led to Even stun reset and special moves reset (Multiple loops of nets)

i will give it deeper look tomorrow :)
 

Prinz

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I think they are considered like lying on the ground, like when holding down and delaying the wake-up. Consider that they are hit with dash/net when they are lying on the ground.
 

xxteefxx

Kenshi Moderator
I think they are considered like lying on the ground, like when holding down and delaying the wake-up. Consider that they are hit with dash/net when they are lying on the ground.
OTG? possible...though that can be subject to block in most of the cases, especially NON tag system (refrence from other previous examples.) or maybe even something like Smoke bomb reset, though this kabal thing been caught by NRS so they fixed it by giving it this WEIRD invincibility hurtbox lol.....it's really weird to be honest....its a glitch anyways. which there's an NRS member who can explain stuff like these in here lol
 

Prinz

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OTG? possible...though that can be subject to block in most of the cases, especially NON tag system (refrence from other previous examples.) or maybe even something like Smoke bomb reset, though this kabal thing been caught by NRS so they fixed it by giving it this WEIRD invincibility hurtbox lol.....it's really weird to be honest....its a glitch anyways. which there's an NRS member who can explain stuff like these in here lol
Yeah, most probably OTG. I doubt it was intentional :)