TYM's collective Character placement after 8-31 patch(updated)

[errormacro7]

How is Marksman, Special Forces, Cutthroat, Shaolin and Pyromancer C tier? Assassin A tier? So many I disagree.

 

[MadeOfMetal]

@JTB123 Inferno better than Hellfire lol.

All three variations of Kano in C tier lol.

Dragon's Fang Goro better than KW LOL.

Dragon's Fang is the worst/most pointless variation in the entire game.

hellfire lost +onblock RC

 

[Phosferrax]

hellfire lost +onblock RC

So what? Inferno got a fucking massive nerf too that patch. Hellfire is still plus after his 214 cancel.

 

[MadeOfMetal]

Ah. Now your list makes a little more sense.
You're going against the grain by saying some variations are higher on the tier list than I feel a lot of users believe.

Would you explain some like Buzzsaw, Blood God, Brawler, etc? I'm not asking for paragraphs, maybe just a sentence or two describing why they're better than their complimentary variations.

i feel buzzsaw,
is very mixup heavy with a very strong EX wakeup, his advancing Spin is pretty beastmulti hitting. basically same tools as Tempest but with more mixup's mindgames. and after change to how characters switch directions, his spin is more viable as AA option into full combo punish.

Brawler, simply because the universal damage nerf, i like her OS mixup mind games and pressure into DBF2 (throw option on block)off of: F44/212

Blood god: because his new tools off totems, Damage, Reduced damge from hits, ability to take super from opponent while gaining health when it times out. and huge comeback factor, you can take him down to almost no health and with one slip up he takes your life, very fun character imo

 

[zerosebaz]

Agree on placements or not, this is how it should be done, by variation.

 

[MadeOfMetal]

Bojutsu over Shaolin? Lol
Explain

lol orry about that one i actually think shaolin is stronger now, ty for pointing that out for me.

 

[Generalbit]

I disagree strongly w where u put kotal. I made my own fun little list to see what people might think:
S
Predator
Quan Chi
A+
Cassie Cage
Tanya
D'vorah
A
Kung Lao
Shinnok
Jaqui Briggs
Erron Black
Jax
Sonya
Raiden
B
Reptile
Kung Jin
Liu Kang
Sub-Zero
C+
Kitana
Takeda
Tremor
Scorpion
C
Johnny Cage
Mileena
Ermac
Kano
D
Kotal Kahn
Kenshi
Ferra/Torr
Goro
Jason

I would like as much feedback as possible plz, this is just my opinion and would like to know where people stand. Btw this is assuming the characters best variation, in all honesty im just too lazy to make a full variation list. Feel free to ask me why i put a character in a certain area, I'll be happy to explain. Ty

 

[Ashenar]

LoL this list. Robin takeda b tier lol yeah lemme get my coffee

 

[JTB123]

@JTB123 Inferno better than Hellfire lol.

Think I'm going to need a minute here...

 

[Vigilante24]

Wrestler is Jax best variation. Jagged plz... smh -__-

Why do you feel pumped up and heavy weapons are better and why wrestler is only mid tier. His normal pressure plus threat of 14% command grabs and tick throws, plus the mixups behind tick throw strings make his pressure the scariest of the 3 imo.

 

[MadeOfMetal]

How is Marksman, Special Forces, Cutthroat, Shaolin and Pyromancer C tier? Assassin A tier? So many I disagree.

i did it my best, based on matchups, i will admit Special Forces may be biased, because well i suck with that variation.. but none the less, this is something you can expect, many disagreeing with your placement, any teir list put up on TYM has gotten considerable hate, because people play each character differently, have different playstyles, and different strong character picks.

they are just my opinion... i would be happy to see your Tier list post 8-31.

ps i feel jacqui got very strong after last buffs. and i think most of TYM does not realise what happened with her. she may be even higher,, just need to wait and see MU's with her.

 

[MadeOfMetal]

Wrestler is Jax best variation. Jagged plz... smh -__-

can you tell me why wrestler is better than Heavy Weapons? i think the RC allows for better mind games/pressure? but then again im not that good with him?

 

[CaptainCM]

Erron outlaw down one tier
Erron marksman up one tier
Opinions.

 

[Bomborge]

What are you basing this tier list off? Some of this stuff is way off.

 

[MadeOfMetal]

Erron outlaw down one tier
Erron marksman up one tier
Opinions.

can you elaborate, i feel markman gets some bad MU's and outlaw has a very good kit for most MU's?

awaiting your reply?

 

[Vigilante24]

can you tell me why wrestler is better than Heavy Weapons? i think the RC allows for better mind games/pressure? but then again im not that good with him?

I just edited my previous post explaining why I think Wrestler is the best. You ninja'd me lol.

I personally think the RCs are a bit overrated since the most commonly used are negative and the few that are plus are highs. They do provide good mindgames like you said, but against wrestler, you cant block forever which will cause people to press buttons more often or risk getting grabbed.

I play all 3 variations btw with Wrestler as my go to, HW for MU Specifics, and Pumped Up for Sub Zero.

 

[DownfouralitY]

Outlaw is practically on par with Marksman so I really don't understand that placement at all.

 

[MadeOfMetal]

Outlaw is practically on par with Marksman so I really don't understand that placement at all.

i just felt that his RC on block is not that much to offer, which is basically a lesser of the other two... but can you explain?

 

[DownfouralitY]

i just felt that his RC on block is not that much to offer, which is basically a lesser of the other two... but can you explain?

he gets safe 50/50s off of his gun cancels.. How is that not much to offer?

 

[MadeOfMetal]

So what? Inferno got a fucking massive nerf too that patch. Hellfire is still plus after his 214 cancel.

he also got a few buffs, but i will practice his 214RC and get back to that, and may repost his placing according ly...

 

[MadeFromMetal]

Robin takeda

 

[MadeOfMetal]

he gets safe 50/50s off of his gun cancels.. How is that not much to offer?

my mistake i thought a few could get through it, that he wasnt like JC SKRC +20 on block, or Ferra Torr ruthless +15 on block PnG F2PnGRCF2/4PnGRCB1212 +10

 

[errormacro7]

i did it my best, based on matchups, i will admit Special Forces may be biased, because well i suck with that variation.. but none the less, this is something you can expect, many disagreeing with your placement, any teir list put up on TYM has gotten considerable hate, because people play each character differently, have different playstyles, and different strong character picks.

they are just my opinion... i would be happy to see your Tier list post 8-31.

ps i feel jacqui got very strong after last buffs. and i think most of TYM does not realise what happened with her. she may be even higher,, just need to wait and see MU's with her.

I don't have a tier list, I don't want to rank characters I don't play, but I believe there is a consensus among the Kano/Kitana community that Cutthroat is his best variation and Assassin is her worst one. Shaolin being Kung Jin's best variation as well. I don't see any of those variations as C tier anyway. Special Forces is definitely NOT C tier. This variation is very good but very underrated.

 

[Scott The Scot]

Hollywood needs to be bumped up a tier or maybe two. She controlls a good amount of space with IAguns and she has the restand which can be made into jailing attacks midscreen. Hollywood is really good. Brawler has more mixups, tick throws and more damage midscreen. Spec Ops has barely any damage but really good Oki and hard-to-blockables (htb, h2b) and effectively more options to break armour. They're all good.

 

[Altsa]

Royal Storm mains are offended to see Assassin in same tier. Mournful mains are offended to see Assassin in a higher tier.