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A New Take on Tier lists (Includes Lists)

MadeOfMetal

Kenshi Srubtastic,Cyrax, Special Forces Mains
Nobody EVER should get hit by F3. As much as you "trick your oponent" to get hit by it, there is literally no reason why anyone should get hit by that. F234 is not safe, go test it, every single character can punish it with at least one poke, others get a full combo.



I definitely don't base her tier placement off of her mix-ups, I explained the holes and punishes of her mix-ups because he was saying her mix-ups were safe *facepalms*

But aight, her zoning is meh, and Mr. Mileena pretty much already explained everything.
The fact that she is bottom 5 doesn't mean that she is ass or anything, she has good things as well, but she has clear weaknesses that make her bottom 5.


Funny that you mention that... F12B4 is her main string, it's great for oki, but guess what? After sadistic ways on hit F12 whiffs against every character, they can either punish with a normal or armor out, this is a huge problem and people are not using it against her yet, but once they start doing it, oki with F1 will be pretty risky and sometimes worthless.
here argue with sonicfox he lands it on peps all the time!
 

MadeOfMetal

Kenshi Srubtastic,Cyrax, Special Forces Mains
that is F3 first hit is F3...do you even know what move you are arguing...and she has been buffed since then.. all move are better than then... my bro is waiting...? all talk? no action

you are one of those people... he lands it on video the entire first match about 5 times... and your still arguing it can't be done... hilarious
 

EMPRESS_SunFire

Regina George of discord
that is F3 first hit is F3...do you even know what move you are arguing...and she has been buffed since then.. all move are better than then... my bro is waiting...? all talk? no action
Lmao that move has remained the same since day 1. I added him like 15 minutes ago, I really want him to show me the ways of unreactable F3.
 

Samsara

Resident Cynic
Why aren't we throwing shade at the Mileena community for taking over a thread? If they're were some Subby mains here we would have gotten ragged on from the begining.

That's besides the point. Her placing is absurd and the justification for that placement is flawed. Her practical mixups require meter and are unsafe. She is low-mid tier at best.
 

STB Shujinkydink

Burning down in flames for kicks
She builds meter fairly easily though. She doesnt have to take a 40% life loss to gain meter, and the fact she can use an OH, or low sai if you're bold, at any given time in any string, it prevents turtling, and forces the opponent to not only pay attention to their meter but also hers.

Personally, I just don't like the "If they dont have a safe mixup, the character sucks" ideology. Not every character is supposed to be rushdown, not every character is meant to control space. They all have their own strengths and weaknesses. It depends on the player using them, how they use them, more than their spot on a tier, especially this early.
That's what I'm saying he's not saying the character sucks lol. No one said that. She's just not as good as other characters in the game tier wise
 

EMPRESS_SunFire

Regina George of discord
How does playing a set against Mileena online settle the argument as to whether F3 can open up players offline?
That move is reactable even online tho, so if someone can react to it online, offine there's no problem (even tho I've seen people getting hit by it offline, but again... it's their fault)
 

MadeOfMetal

Kenshi Srubtastic,Cyrax, Special Forces Mains
How does playing a set against Mileena online settle the argument as to whether F3 can open up players offline?





This auto-correct is not getting the recognition it deserves.
it dont i showed sonic do it online with zero lag...
 

MadeOfMetal

Kenshi Srubtastic,Cyrax, Special Forces Mains
That move is reactable even online tho, so if someone can react to it online, offine there's no problem (even tho I've seen people getting hit by it offline, but again... it's their fault)
at least you admit you can get hiut... yes its thier fault but its possible, glad we can agree

btw gg, i didnt mean to be an ass, i just get frustrated at lag, you are a very good player... i just couldn't give you a good match due to lag... anyways it was fun
 

OzzFoxx

Hardcore gaming poser.
I have to say I've never seen a game where tier lists have been so insignificant. At EVO, from the quarterfinals on, all but 4 characters were used (Goro, Takeda, Ferra/Torr, Jacqui) and each of those characters were represented in pools. It seems every character in this game could be top tier if used by the right person. Of all the faults this game has, being unbalanced is not one. Look at how creative NRS was with the different move sets available in this game. Can you imagine how difficult it is to add such a large amount of unorthodox moves and keep it this well balanced? Accidentally adding one or two frame advantage could throw everything off and there still hasn't been anything that breaks this game at the highest level.