Jumping takes longer from crouch block

[Tom Brady]

Apparently this is burning up the wires that it was discovered that frame data changes on some moves when blocked from crouch and it was seen and confirmed by people who were watching the Yomi stream. To my knowledge this is completely false.

I did this in an IGAU vid but it ONLY pertains to jumping and not the frame data on attacks changing if blocked from crouch.

It was still in MKX which I noticed a while ago and to my knowledge this is only when jumping from crouch. This is in many fighters and IMO is no big issue as the frames on block are not actually changing.


Here is the link to the old IGAU vid where I noticed it but it is only when jumping.
start at 12:20

EDIT:
example in MKX

Again, the frame data is not changing. If the Yomi stream had the something where the actual frame data changes such as moves that are not plua not becoming adv when crouch blocked, please someone post it here.

 

[I GOT HANDS]

Does the video NEED to be 30 minutes long? I'm 7 minutes in and not one mention of what you are talking about, you need to work on being concise bro

 

[Tom Brady]

Does the video NEED to be 30 minutes long? I'm 7 minutes in and not one mention of what you are talking about, you need to work on being concise bro

did you not read the "start at 12:20?

 

[SEV]

did you not read the "start at 12:20?

You didn't put that anywhere.

Edit: Oh I see it now, pretty easy to miss where you put it though. Much more noticeable where it is now.

 

[Tom Brady]

You didn't put that anywhere.

Edit: Oh I see it now, pretty easy to miss where you put it though.

ill enlarge it..

FYI.. another reason I didnt make a big deal of this in MKX because I figured maybe it was just bad testing on my part. However, I was told DJT confirmed this on stream at YOMI as well.

 

[Alright RyRy]

did you not read the "start at 12:20?

People do not read brady, they just click and assume.

 

[SEV]

People do not read brady, they just click and assume.

Lol, he originally had it on the bottom right corner, after the video. Your eye wouldn't naturally go there, nor would you think to look there after seeing the video; him asking if you saw it to the first dude was the equivalent of one of those photos where they ask, "can you see what's hidden in the picture?"

 

[Tom Brady]

Can anyone provide the proof from Yomi stream that this does in fact still exist? I have no idea where in the stream it occurred.

 

[I GOT HANDS]

did you not read the "start at 12:20?

No, because it wasn't there at first. I can read the "Last edited: 1 minute ago" however.

People do not read brady, they just click and assume.

How ironic.

 

[SEV]

No, because it wasn't there at first. I can read the "Last edited: 1 minute ago" however.



How ironic.

It was there, he just had it right after the video, to the very bottom right of it. Easy to miss.

 

[skater11]

I've known this also. And it seems like some moves even have more pushback on block when stand/crouch blocking. (Attacks that are mids or highs)

 

[TheIrishFGCguy]

MKX is trying to teach people how to squat.

Make sure your crouch block has good form in order to alter your frame data and don't forget to breathe properly to alter that hitbox

 

[DevilMaySpy]

Well, this would help explain the Tempest Lao dilemma. Aside from wonky hitboxes of course.

 

[Pan1cMode]

Does this affect low pokes? Because I'm assuming you don't need to go to standing state before you can low poke. Does it affect reversals or just jumps/normals?

 

[chemicalNova]

This is unfortunate if true... I really wanted MKX to be free of such weirdness and that dream seems more unrealistic each day

 

[Tom Brady]

No, because it wasn't there at first. I can read the "Last edited: 1 minute ago" however.



How ironic.

The last edit moved it to the top and changed its color, size, and put it in bold. It was originally on the side of the video.

 

[Slips]

This is unfortunate if true... I really wanted MKX to be free of such weirdness and that dream seems more unrealistic each day

This isn't anything new, to MKX, NRS games, Capcom games or any other fighting games in general. Not sure why this is even a big enough deal to make a thread about.

 

[Gesture Required Ahead]

I mean...wasn't this a thing in MK9 as well? Remember Cage's F3 being +8 when the opponent tries to jump from crouch after blocking it?

 

[BillStickers]

MKX is trying to teach people how to squat.

Make sure your crouch block has good form in order to alter your frame data and don't forget to breathe properly to alter that hitbox

 

[Tom Brady]

I mean...wasn't this a thing in MK9 as well? Remember Cage's F3 being +8 when the opponent tries to jump from crouch after blocking it?

I believe that was a bugged issue where as this is something normal and found in many fighters.

 

[Juggs]

Wait, doesn't this exist in most fighters?

 

[EndofGameBoss]

So, you're goal is to make this game look terrible.

 

[chemicalNova]

This isn't anything new, to MKX, NRS games, Capcom games or any other fighting games in general. Not sure why this is even a big enough deal to make a thread about.

Oh really? I wasn't aware it was common. I certainly haven't come across it mentioned by other communities in my - admittedly limited - time playing fighting games. Do you have an example I could go looking for in, say, SFIV? Or another game?

 

[Tom Brady]

This is just the example of the jumping. To my knowledge, the frame data does not change.

Is this all that was shown on the Yomi stream? Or was there an example of moves actually being plus?

 

[Tom Brady]

This isn't anything new, to MKX, NRS games, Capcom games or any other fighting games in general. Not sure why this is even a big enough deal to make a thread about.

It absolutely is in other fighters as well, but this was going though the wire as game breaking. This exists in MANY fighters..