General/Other - Tanya Tanya SHOULD be normalized.

[shaowebb]

First thought at thread title..."M2Dave thread?"
:kappa:

 

[SonicFox5000]

Tanya has a block infinite on quan chi?

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

Tanya has a block infinite on quan chi?

We all wish

 

[I GOT HANDS]

Because his mid is a high, like pretty much the entire roster? Raiden is everything but fine in this game.

Yup. This character didn't even drop a positioning from his "nerfs" lol. I can't see how anyone could say he's fine

 

[looktotheluna]

I say shut up and deal with it, as it's nothing but crying and bitching since say 1 about bloody nerfs, instead of actually learning the characters/matchup's. Soon as a character is mopping people, it's a NERF bat straight away.

Sz Gm and Raiden Tg are prime examples and now it's Tanya. Give the game proper breathing space for a good few months before considering changes and only fix ones like the current Kung Lao's Wake up, Teleport Meter glitch. etc......

 

[RunwayMafia]

Congrats, you just broke several, if not all of her DN meterless combos.

Exactly this. Of course a Pyro main would forget about us Dragon Naginata mains.

AS A DN MAIN, this list makes me want to vomit.

I agree with EX telport though.

 

[Slymind]

 

[CJKRattlehead]

I say shut up and deal with it, as it's nothing but crying and bitching since say 1 about bloody nerfs, instead of actually learning the characters/matchup's. Soon as a character is mopping people, it's a NERF bat straight away.

Sz Gm and Raiden Tg are prime examples and now it's Tanya. Give the game proper breathing space for a good few months before considering changes and only fix ones like the current Kung Lao's Wake up, Teleport Meter glitch. etc......

LBSH 6frame mid at -3 was stupid good and raiden didn't need it

 

[DanCock]

wrong adjustments.. her plus frame strings and string that are just a little negative need fixing.. in fact a lot of these characters in this game need this type of adjustment..im sick and tired of blocking attacks and strings only to not be able to punish them unless i use armor to punish their next attack.. the frame data seems way off.

 

[Tony at Home]

Tanya has a block infinite on quan chi?

We all wish

This is literally all I dream about....

 

[just_2swift]

Hahaha Tanya has better teleports than raiden himself.I mean seriously he has a variation based on that function but Tanya not only has access to teleports in all three of her variations but they are BETTER than his one variation that's supposedly designed around it LOL seriously. Like WTF.

 

[Groove Heaven]

I think EX teleport is the real culprit. I don't know quite enough about her to make a fair judgment but your changes seem reasonable.

 

[Hitoshura]

We could wait a bit longer before making any final decisions so we don't regret any specific changes.

I second this.

 

[I GOT HANDS]

I say shut up and deal with it, as it's nothing but crying and bitching since say 1 about bloody nerfs, instead of actually learning the characters/matchup's. Soon as a character is mopping people, it's a NERF bat straight away.

Sz Gm and Raiden Tg are prime examples and now it's Tanya. Give the game proper breathing space for a good few months before considering changes and only fix ones like the current Kung Lao's Wake up, Teleport Meter glitch. etc......

Yeah... This fallback kinda doesn't work that well when the OP of the thread is Tanya MAIN ... But nice try I guess

 

[SaltShaker]

only thing I'd adjust other than the obvious option selects would be his meter build what's so broken about raiden besides that?

Sorry I took so long to reply. I was too busy getting smashed offline by one wrong read, leading me to be hit with a combo that carries me all the way to the corner from 2/3'rds of the screen away, where after 1 wrong guess in the corner I ended up dead because through that entire time I didn't even build up enough meter to break.

But lets nerf Tanya first though because Raiden is fine.

 

[CJKRattlehead]

Sorry I took so long to reply. I was too busy getting smashed offline by one wrong read, leading me to be hit with a combo that carries me all the way to the corner from 2/3'rds of the screen away, where after 1 wrong guess in the corner I ended up dead because through that entire time I didn't even build up enough meter to break.

But lets nerf Tanya first though because Raiden is fine.

same thing applies to sub zero should he be nerfed too?

 

[I GOT HANDS]

Sorry I took so long to reply. I was too busy getting smashed offline by one wrong read, leading me to be hit with a combo that carries me all the way to the corner from 2/3'rds of the screen away, where after 1 wrong guess in the corner I ended up dead because through that entire time I didn't even build up enough meter to break.

But lets nerf Tanya first though because Raiden is fine.

I don't know how I ever disliked you

 

[Zoidberg747]

I think EX teleport is the real culprit. I don't know quite enough about her to make a fair judgment but your changes seem reasonable.

This. The regular teleports could use a slight startup adjustment but other than that they are pretty fair. EX tele though is ridiculously good.

 

[SaltShaker]

same thing applies to sub zero should we nerf him too?

Did you just, like did you, like did you actually? Sigh lol. Sighhh.

 

[I GOT HANDS]

same thing applies to sub zero should we nerf him too?

Are you.. Serious? SZ's highest hitting metered combos do less than Raidens meterless.... In fact he has one of the lowest damages out of the entire roster, possibly the actual lowest... He is much less safe than Raiden on EVERYTHING... And doesn't build his meter half as quick or have half as much use for it when he does get it... SZ is Raiden tier now though right?

It's never hard to spot the low level players who struggle with Ice Clone.

 

[Zoidberg747]

Exactly this. Of course a Pyro main would forget about us Dragon Naginata mains.

AS A DN MAIN, this list makes me want to vomit.

I agree with EX telport though.

I understand your frustration but right now you can just mash regular tele and get out of a lot of pressure for free. Maybe instead of reducing the startup they could just reduce the invincibility frames?

 

[RunwayMafia]

Hahaha Tanya has better teleports than raiden himself.I mean seriously he has a variation based on that function but Tanya not only has access to teleports in all three of her variations but they are BETTER than his one variation that's supposedly designed around it LOL seriously. Like WTF.

Let's be real, Tanya is no Raiden.

However, the fact that Raiden's teleport costs a bar of stamina is garbage.

#EqualOppurtunityTeleportist
#IsupportEqualRightsForTeleports

 

[CJKRattlehead]

Are you.. Serious? SZ's highest hitting metered combos do less than Raidens meterless.... In fact he has one of the lowest damages out of the entire roster, possibly the actual lowest... He is much less safe than Raiden on EVERYTHING... And doesn't build his meter half as quick or have half as much use for it when he does get it... SZ is Raiden tier now though right?

It's never hard to spot the low level players who struggle with Ice Clone.

fair point, was exaggerating to make a point though. sub doesn't have an advantage restand either so there's that... I have no problem with sub at all to be clear just think raiden is slightly overrated.

 

[Maasik]

Are you.. Serious? SZ's highest hitting metered combos do less than Raidens meterless.... In fact he has one of the lowest damages out of the entire roster, possibly the actual lowest... He is much less safe than Raiden on EVERYTHING... And doesn't build his meter half as quick or have half as much use for it when he does get it... SZ is Raiden tier now though right?

It's never hard to spot the low level players who struggle with Ice Clone.

Someone didnt get the joke haha

 

[I GOT HANDS]

fair point, was exaggerating to make a point though. sub doesn't have an advantage restand either so there's that... I have no problem with sub at all to be clear just think raiden is slightly overrated.

Fair enough, I thought you were going the opposite way with it, and saying SZ is Raiden tier.

I didn't get why Raiden was OP because if only played against bad ones. Once I started playing against good ones, he's literally my hardest match up across all characters. Raiden is insane.