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Who is the worst character in MKX?

ManBatHorse

ManBatHorse

Syzoth of the Devil Reef
UsedForGlue said:
Every character has a skill set and some tools, what has that got to do with bad match ups? Because, that is what defines the best and worst characters, how many match ups are they disadvantaged or unable to use that skill set?
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Her tools are good, it's all I'm saying. She can't be in the bottom 3 with Goro and Kitana.
 
UsedForGlue

UsedForGlue

"Strength isn't everything"
BloodyNights said:
Jacqui certainly isn't bottom of the tier list, at least not in Full Auto, She has great damage, good mix ups, good zoning, also has pretty good strings as well. 1212 all being 0 on block create some nasty mix ups. Only thing she suffers from is T-rex arms syndrome. Bottom of the tier list? I don't think so. Mid tier sure.
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Tools, strings, damage etc etc, I know. But it about match ups, and I feel she loses to more characters than she wins against, and even though she CAN win against anyone in the cast, she is most likely disadvantaged in most of those match ups.

Look at Reptile, he has good pokes, strings, tools and so on, but he has up hill battles and no real dirt, so he might have a bunch of 6-4's and maybe a 7-3 somewhere, and even though he can win in those match ups, most of them are never on his advantage or at no point can you say, that he ruins anyway, except for maybe Kung Kin in Bojitsu only.
 
ragnar0kz28

ragnar0kz28

Warrior
BloodyNights said:
Well I'll say this, if she get F2 as an overhead, Kitana is gonna shoot from bottom tier, to top tier. If she get's a mid hitting fan she will move to mid tier. lol
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wrong, F2 is 1billion frames you can see it comming, it would just make people respect her more and not only block low, mid fans would make her top 5 instantly, fans are really fast considering people will have to block over and over or risk a jump to eat an air fan that leads to 30+ dmg.
 
BloodyNights

BloodyNights

"My kunai will find it's mark."
ragnar0kz28 said:
wrong, F2 is 1billion frames you can see it comming, it would just make people respect her more and not only block low, mid fans would make her top 5 instantly, fans are really fast considering people will have to block over and over or risk a jump to eat an air fan that leads to 30+ dmg.
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Well I hope she get's the overhead then, I'd take that buff way over mid fan. lol
 
Sulfur

Sulfur

Winning feels better when you take a little damage
Johnny cage, he has to work so hard to just get 20% on someone, Jason is pretty not great too.
 
ManBatHorse

ManBatHorse

Syzoth of the Devil Reef
UsedForGlue said:
I know dude, ive played against good Jackie players in tournaments and I know what you are talking about, but its all about match ups.
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I have no idea how to Jackie properly, but isn't she on the few that can deal with GM subzero easily? Like outzone and outfootsie him? I'm talking about full auto, of course.
 
BloodyNights

BloodyNights

"My kunai will find it's mark."
ragnar0kz28 said:
wrong, F2 is 1billion frames you can see it comming, it would just make people respect her more and not only block low, mid fans would make her top 5 instantly, fans are really fast considering people will have to block over and over or risk a jump to eat an air fan that leads to 30+ dmg.
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I just wanted to point out, that the Fan that comes out really fast, has the same start up as the overhead that takes 1 billion frames to come out. After doing some tests, I've also found that I can jump it consistently. But that's just me personally.
 
UsedForGlue

UsedForGlue

"Strength isn't everything"
ManBatHorse said:
I have no idea how to Jackie properly, but isn't she on the few that can deal with GM subzero easily? Like outzone and outfootsie him? I'm talking about full auto, of course.
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Ive played against an excellent Jackie player twice in two different tournaments and won both times, and I honestly didn't feel disadvantaged in the match up. The only thing I remember was ducking under everything and her pushing herself closer and closer to a corner that she didn't want to be in vs GM.

But this could just be my opinion.
 
BloodyNights

BloodyNights

"My kunai will find it's mark."
UsedForGlue said:
Ive played against an excellent Jackie player twice in two different tournaments and won both times, and I honestly didn't feel disadvantaged in the match up. The only thing I remember was ducking under everything and her pushing herself closer and closer to a corner that she didn't want to be in vs GM.

But this could just be my opinion.
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That match up is probably in GM Subs favor, just most Sub-Zero players assume by default if an opponent has options against clone it's a bad match up. lol
 
Jaku2011

Jaku2011

Filled with determination
F/T and Jason downplay is so real right now I think they're both really good. (F/T more so) Kitana is the only one I'm sure is crap, I know nothing of Goro, never played with him and barely against him so no opinion there.
 
ShaolinGunFu

ShaolinGunFu

Warrior
trying to pick up reptile makes me feel so bad for people who main just him and think they are bad at the game, when in fact reptile is the one who is bad. cool design but so hard to win
 
exflyingbooty

exflyingbooty

This dream has a sad ending
The reptile downplaying makes me want to vomit, he's really not THAT bad

  • 11 frame overhead which is completely unreactable(supposedly +1 according to frame data)
  • String that leads into an overhead which is hard to react to especally with slide mixups
  • Forceballs control the screen and full combo
  • Two very good low strings
  • noxious just hurts people who are around you, this character puninshes you for standing close to him you take damage comboing him
He has a bad damage output and no safe specials, those are his two main flaws other then that he's fine. He doesn't have major fundamental flaws like kitana, goro and shinnok for example.
 
Whackojack

Whackojack

Noob Saibot is BACK!
Sultani said:
I can't even imagine why people are saying Reptile. I've ignored that garbage. I guess low to mid 30s is too low. Super fast safe overheads are bad. +25 D4 and increased chip damage is bad. force ball oki is bad. The range of F12 is super bad. k. D3 into EX safe overheads that you can juggle off that hits so fast it can stuff mot armored wakeups.... that's bad. ending combos to safely activate all of the variation specific specials, totally bad.

Kitana Sucks. Goro Sucks. Ferra Torr sucks.
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I get where you're coming from, but F21 (which i assume you meant) is unsafe on block and doesn't lead to very much damage even with the bar spent, although it does have incredible range. Also, D3 into EX safe overheads? What EX move is a safe overhead for reptile that comes out fast? As far as i know the only EX OH he can cancel into is db4 which is slow and unsafe on block.
 
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ArcticTabasco

ArcticTabasco

I wish I knew Kung Fu.
I'll go with Kitana. Really difficult to get anything started with her.

F/T ain't all that either.


Somebody said earlier flame fist Liu. I reckon that person is high on opium.
 
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