Question - Tanya How good is Tanya...really?

[Pan1cMode]

Why am I not surprised that people fell for the absolute Bill that was sold to them, about TYM complaining about sub's clone got it nerfed?

Dave created a thread at the time stating that sub should not be nerfed, where not only did over 160 people agree with him, but sonic Fox got absolutely slated by almost everyone for suggesting he should be nerfed.

Exactly this. I don't remember the outright crying that was claimed to have happened about clone pre-patch. Did this actually happen?

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

Different characters, yes... but both moves were used to play defensively, that's where the similarity that I'm using comes from. One's cool but one isn't... that's what I'm talking about.

It's whatever though. People all just want their character to keep their dirt. That's basically this entire thread, my posts are no different.

Would love to play you but you're probably on playstation.

Xbox...and zoidberg has a point. Getting or jealous of other character tools cause your character is suffering isn't cool. Misery loves company though.

Honestly when I'm back in town we can play online or in person and I'll train you up on her

 

[Pan1cMode]

Its not a zoning variation, tanya is a hybrid archtype of character, not zoning here, rushdown there, and footsies there, the universal set of tool in combination with what is given to the variations is what defines the archtype.

Ehhhhh pyro is pretty zoning heavy tbh. She does have nice pressure options with dust, but her strength in this variation lies with running away and cleverly placing fireballs while building meter.

 

[STB Sgt Reed]

Xbox...and zoidberg has a point. Getting or jealous of other character tools cause your character is suffering isn't cool. Misery loves company though.

Honestly when I'm back in town we can play online or in person and I'll train you up on her

Then feel free add me on xbox. I don't remember if you're on my friends list or not.

But hey, bring back clone and all is forgiven. Tanya can keep her tele See? Am I not merciful?

 

[Eddy Wang]

Ehhhhh pyro is pretty zoning heavy tbh. She does have nice pressure options with dust, but her strength in this variation lies with running away and cleverly placing fireballs while building meter.

I didn't said it doesn't i just don't think is zoning entirely when she can equally rushdown

 

[RunwayMafia]

Point being... sub did the same thing tanya does and he got the big ol nerf bat.

If tanya is allowed to keep her bullshit. Why couldn't Sub Zero? Why is his defensive option not allowed to rock?

I'm not sure, bro, I'm not P. Garcia. Take that up with him.

However, last I checked, Tanya's teleport doesnt trap the entire cast in the corner. Big fucking difference.

Tanya's air mobility is annoying...not over powered.

 

[WidowPuppy]

I would not make the teleport require stamina, but I would increase the start up of the teleport by several frames.

Air teleport, MB, or her regular teleport?

Which Dragon Naginata combos require the teleport to be 1 frame?

Passed the f*%k out last night Dave, woke up and saw you responded to my question... Which was what teleport? I had her regular forward teleport in mind, which is seven frames not one, like the away teleport and air away, which must be the ones you were referring to. And you had said, "Adding several frames". That would definitely screw with her meterless BnB's if you were reffering to her 7f forward teleport. Anyhow, I was just pointing out something I thought you might of simply overlooked.

Hopefully whatever they do to her isn't too ruthless, she's one of my secondaries. And... It's also nice to see one of the female characters besides Sonya being strongly represented in Tournament play, unlike Jacqui.

 

[xKhaoTik]

Her myriad of options and quality of tools make her dumb as fuck. Adding insult to injury, all of her variations are good. What other character is good in every variation?

But I'm an illiterate and inarticulate rush down fool, so what do I know?

Cassie
D'vorah
Kenshi
Jax


Just because a character has good variations, doesn't mean they should be nerfed. I'm sure there's other characters too

 

[Zoidberg747]

Cassie
D'vorah
Kenshi
Jax


Just because a character has good variations, doesn't mean they should be nerfed. I'm sure there's other characters too

Brood mother is not good. Venomous is good but nowhere near as good as SQ. Also both of you forgot Quan chi

 

[SM StarGazer]

I mean scorpo is nice all round. Kano, Jax, Kenshi, Takeda? Cassie, Sonya, Smermac, Johnny, Kitana. Each one of the characters have tools that can eat Tanya alive. Instant air fans, Kano's Balls, Counter ex Teleports, Rising Karma, or any DP for that matter.

The key to beating Tanya is disrespect. "Oh you got a nice teleport. Imma just wait here, whiff these command grabs till I got three bars, then Imma be back for that ass. And it is a nice ass."

 

[BunLantern]

I'm not going to vote because I play Goro and it would be a vote of just complete salt.

Highest mobility character > lowest mobility character.

 

[StormGoddess]

It's amazing that people want to nerf strong characters instead of buffing the weaker ones.
Do they want a game where 5 characters out of 30 are played? Do they want some watered-down , boring game?
example being- dont nerf Tanya's teleport , buff Mileena's weak ass variation.
NRS should give people a reason to want to play characters other than out of loyalty.

 

[Big Pampering]

It's amazing that people want to nerf strong characters instead of buffing the weaker ones.
Do they want a game where 5 characters out of 30 are played? Do they want some watered-down , boring game?
example being- dont nerf Tanya's teleport , buff Mileena's weak ass variation.
NRS should give people a reason to want to play characters other than out of loyalty.

Imo some characters were or are still a bit overpowered. Every round won't get past the 60 sec mark most of the time and that says a lot.

 

[SM StarGazer]

It's amazing that people want to nerf strong characters instead of buffing the weaker ones.
Do they want a game where 5 characters out of 30 are played? Do they want some watered-down , boring game?
example being- dont nerf Tanya's teleport , buff Mileena's weak ass variation.
NRS should give people a reason to want to play characters other than out of loyalty.

You get so much respect from me due to Shotgun Jacqui. And that Avatar. Ahh Damn.

 

[Justice]

I'm gonna say that she's slightly overrated. She has a lot of tools at her disposal but I also think that we will learn how to manage her. She feels like MK9 Smoke to me and we learned how to deal with him (well, most of us anyway ).

 

[Pan1cMode]

Brood mother is not good. Venomous is good but nowhere near as good as SQ. Also both of you forgot Quan chi

Cassie, Kenshi, Jax, Quan Chi, Scorpion, Kung Jin would be my list.

 

[STB Sgt Reed]

Brood mother is not good. Venomous is good but nowhere near as good as SQ. Also both of you forgot Quan chi

@Johnny2d

 

[StormGoddess]

Imo some characters were or are still a bit overpowered. Every round won't get past the 60 sec mark most of the time and that says a lot.

If that's becomes the case, increase matches from 2/3 to 3/5.
Neutering the product shouldn't be the 1st answer in most cases IMO.

 

[STB Sgt Reed]

I'm not sure, bro, I'm not P. Garcia. Take that up with him.

However, last I checked, Tanya's teleport doesnt trap the entire cast in the corner. Big fucking difference.

Tanya's air mobility is annoying...not over powered.

Anything can be twisted like that...

last I checked sub can't teleport away from everything free with a clone. Clone can't even be done in the air.

Sub's clone is annoying... not over powered.



But continued back and forth between us is pointless as I already said the entire point of me even saying anything about Tanya was b/c sub had an option that defied the setplay shenanigans and it was nerfed so it made little sense to me that now suddenly it's cool. But I guess ppl learned and wanna wait it out now? Which, is probably the smart thing to do.

Can we still be friendly acquaintances?

 

[Rude]

A lot of people seem to want Dark Shroud nerfed.

But I wonder if there are any other characters that have re-stands that leave them at enough + frames for either continued pressure or a 50/50.

HMMM! I WONDER WHO ELSE IN MK X CAN DO THIS THING??????

 

[Pan1cMode]

A lot of people seem to want Dark Shroud nerfed.

But I wonder if there are any other characters that have re-stands that leave them at enough + frames for either continued pressure or a 50/50.

HMMM! I WONDER WHO ELSE IN MK X CAN DO THIS THING??????

It's not even a restand lol.

Although it is pretty dirty along with her run away game.

 

[SM StarGazer]

Dispite how much I love me some Tanya, I gotta say how she was built up kinda pisses me off. Lookin at her variations, how they were designed to play differently, I can see how much detail and time they spent on her to make each stance feel unique. So far she is the embodiment of how this variation style works. Each style can contest for your top pick. One doesn't overshadow the other.

Now what the fuck happened with Subz-Unbreakable?

 

[usedcarsalesmang]

A lot of people seem to want Dark Shroud nerfed.

But I wonder if there are any other characters that have re-stands that leave them at enough + frames for either continued pressure or a 50/50.

HMMM! I WONDER WHO ELSE IN MK X CAN DO THIS THING??????

every character

 

[SM StarGazer]

every character

Kitana bro

 

[Rude]

every character

Yup. That's what i was getting at.

But yeah. We need to nerf Dark Shroud.

Not you, but man. I don't get this thread at all.