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Match-Up Discussion - Jason Voorhees Jason the relentless unstoppable slasher

Do you struggle against Jason spammers?


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Syzoth

The last Saurian from Zaterra - Syzoth - Reptile
This exact post was made in Jason's general. I was originally gonna just make a small gripe but this is what it's become.

Before I start some credibility to what I say: 2500 matches fought. 800ish online. 1500 with reptile. 500 with shinnok. About a hundred with a few others. I'm 20 years old. I've been playing MK since MK2 on the SNES. I like to counter pick against people. I like adapting to people's strategies and take pride in my efficiency.
I know many will say I still don't know what I'm talking about.
I am furious and irate (extremely salty) at this pay to win bullshit.



Why is Jason (a 7 foot tall 300+ pound behemoth of a man) whom is famous for walking extremely slowly and killing people who have fallen or hidden (when you could easily flee) SO UNBELIEVABLY FASTER AND STRONGER than the last remaining Saurian - sole survivor of his species genocide. Reptile is supposedly so fast he can move at 2-3x the speed of his opponent (his nimble ability) Yet Tanya. An Edenian and Jason, a revenant of a child can attack so much faster so much harder.


I AM NOT A TURTLE! There is no shell on my back, weighing me down. Jason however is soaked down with years of being in a lake. His saturated clothes have to weigh down that fat man. But nah. He's coming for you and there's nothing you can do. For one bar he can armor across over half of the screen and god forbid it hits you. That's 22%. Look out for his really complex combos. They require much skill and precision but god forbid you do run into a Jason player. Brace yourself because they're legendary.

So you've been searching for a player/ranked match for about 7 minutes. Finally. Somebody. They're yellow bar but so are most opponents. It's all you've gotten and you're sick of waiting. Besides this noob is using the default player card. This is a free win.

But turns out... Jason players are really good.

Some of them can do this sick string. That is a low stomp, followed by an overhead slice. These attacks are advancing and they hit a crazy range. The slash also works as a make shift anti air. Should it hit you cause NRS is too stubborn to fix their netcode, or your fighting somebody who lives in antartica. (Though more than likely both) This string is unblockable. Choose the low or the overhead then watch in despair as this is done 3 times in a row totaling a third of your life. You've been dragged much closer (or should you find yourself unfortunate) into the corner. Now quick. You can't teleport cause you aren't that cool. What do you do? No time to think. You're being down 3 or 4'd. And Either way it's blockstunning you so they can do it repeatedly until they decide it's time for a stomp slice repetition. CRAP! That combo twice plus a few blocked low pokes means you're down to 20-30% health! Oh well. Reptile has good pressure if you can get in. So maybe we'll just use a reaching attack of our own and interrupt his string. But he armors. At the cost of one bar, he takes almost all or all of your health with a 22% totally fair and respectable special. Oh well. What's one round? It takes time to adapt to an opponents strategy. Especially when a character has the range of Kung Jin with the power of Torr. I like the threat of extinction. It keeps me dangerous.

Round 2. FIGHT! Jason leaps into the air like a frog cause his dexterity makes Reptile look like the half ton man. I slide beneath him cause I was hoping to set the pace with a first low hit. Jason is slashing his machete overhead repeatedly stretching ever closer to me. I jump up in the air with a kick. Surely I can get a well placed longes-range-availiable attack in here to turn the tide. Nah. Machete is much faster than my foot. Pop up. Cause why not start there? Stomp. Slice. Stomp. Slice. Have I been here before? I think I've been here before. Back roll away. I leap into the air first trying to touch Mr. Behemoth just to see if I can. Unfortunately he hits me with an uppercut long before I reach him. Land on my back. Get right to my feet. Hockey player leaps again. Well. I think he had the right idea earlier. Uppercut. But the range and speed of his attack demolishes the slow reptile. Less than half hp left. Brutal. Fire a fast acid ball followed by a slow one in it's shadow. Suddenly a machete comes flying into my skull before I can run up behind my acid ball and my first projectile bounces off his chest. Well I can't block and punish because of latency invincibility. I can't win this projectile trade. It's time to sprint in and flinch this mute out. Make him regret miming me to death. I sprint in. Land a low to med, slide. overhead, poke poke, grab. Beautiful. Almost 40%. Block cause he'll surely wake up. He does. and unbelievable I get in the punish. This time his wake up shoulder charge kills me off.

Lets fight him again. Fluke. Surely eventually I can beat a guy that only has stomp slice, uppercut, jumping 1 and armored special? Cause I have an armored slide that does like 5-8%.. and my spit does 5%. My overhead claw is armored (and not overhead despite it being well over my head) when I EX it and bounces him up. Unfortunately that theory falls to lots of poking, his armor being greater than mine. Unblockable strings. And ofcourse stomping and slicing. I fail to ever get in because of his range and only take rounds based on his foolishness. Oh and I definitely never get brutalitied by his easy as Hell to do Enhanced slash thing.

You get what I'm saying right? I know how to play as Reptile. I'm not some scrub. I've got a 70-80% online ratio with him and a 90% offline. That's 1500 fights or more as I said earlier. I know all his highest damage combos. I know his poke ranges. I know his pressure game. I can swallow people whole and I have. Still I lose to people that pay for an additional character who's simple stats demolish one of the characters I paid 60 dollars for. Not only does he have better brutalities, damage, specials, variations, and frames than I do but he also gets a very solid x ray that does more damage. I've beat Jasons before. But I've lost to several as well. These aren't skilled players outwitting me. They're monkeys pressing the same buttons over and over again and Reptile seems to not have an answer. I switch to Shinnok who also suffers in terms of speed and damage but usually do better on account of his teleport. It's incredibly frustrating. They wouldn't be able to do this on a good connection or offline. They shouldn't be able to just hit me before I can hit them no matter the circumstance. His outright damage is a monstrosity and if he is meant to deal high damage he shouldn't be faster than I am when I play a quick and light character. It's OP or Reptile's UP. That's a whole thing in itself. If you doubt I can play MKX find me on XBL tomorrow. 5pm-3am (EST) Syzoth.
I didn't even touch on how Tanya is a 9-1 (arguably a 10-0 if you believe in them) against reptile.

I feel better venting though. Going to make my own rant thread about this saying the same thing. Thanks for your time.


TLDR
Stomp slice, stomp slice, stomp slice. I can't do anything about it.
 

BloodyNights

"My kunai will find it's mark."
Real talk...Jason is garbage. lol but I like playing as him when I'm feeling Masochistic. While Reptile probably doesn't take the match free, I don't see him losing this battle either. But keep on practicing.
 

MrProfDrPepper

NRS, Guilty Gear, and KI, the holy trinity
didnt read except for very very last part. block low then high, it is really really easy to get past even in the worst of lag since he is slow as fuck. and he is insanely punishable
 

Syzoth

The last Saurian from Zaterra - Syzoth - Reptile
I swear man I can't block it online to save my family. I need divine intervention.
 

BloodyNights

"My kunai will find it's mark."
I swear man I can't block it online to save my family. I need divine intervention.
I blocked it on my first try, after only seeing it on the Kombat Kast reveal of Jason. lol To me it's surprisingly easy to block. I will say this, I think online hinders Jason significantly, rather than helping him. As he likes to try and trap you in the corner in his slasher variation. So while you are trying to block F42, he can go F2>BF3, D1, B122, 111>DF1. But good luck trying that online.
 

Hidan

Where the hell is Reiko's wheel kick
@Syzoth Jason is not your problem, online is. Slasher isn't his best variation either. You'll get used to him in time.

You like Reptile so much, it's almost inspiring
 

Syzoth

The last Saurian from Zaterra - Syzoth - Reptile
I gotta move somewhere with better internet truly. It's just infuriating when somebody beats you by something you know how to counter but just can't


@Syzoth Jason is not your problem, online is. Slasher isn't his best variation either. You'll get used to him in time.

You like Reptile so much, it's almost inspiring
Reptile's background and lore is just fantastic. I like his role and his character very much. I feel he fell short of his potential a bit in this game but it won't stop me from being the only guy trying to win tournaments with him xD

Slasher's range is what kills me. Advancing everything. The arcs. The serious armor. I just have a hard time hitting through it all. Especially when he's using his pokes.
 

Syzoth

The last Saurian from Zaterra - Syzoth - Reptile
But all his combos are meds. 121, f224,hellsparks, his teleport is usually OH, his trance is med. Block high xD
 

Name v.5.0

Iowa's Finest.
If you cant block that slasher string that's low into overhead, you either need to level up or quit this game. How do you do against Sonya's B1,4? Or Cassie's D+F1?

Jason is SHIT. Reptile should easily be able to out zone him in Slasher for starters. Plus you have one of the best punishing specials in the game. LEVEL UP
 

Blade4693

VIVIVI
" These aren't skilled players outwitting me. They're monkeys pressing the same buttons over and over again "

Are you sure none of them are skilled/decent players? Just because they pick Jason doesn't mean they are casuals and/or don't know how to play.
 

bdizzle2700

gotta stay sharp!
" These aren't skilled players outwitting me. They're monkeys pressing the same buttons over and over again "

Are you sure none of them are skilled/decent players? Just because they pick Jason doesn't mean they are casuals and/or don't know how to play.
But they was jumping like a monkey. Plus they picked slasher=no skills. If they picked relentless...then they bawlsy.
And I am trololing. So please dont hurt my feelings :(
 

bdizzle2700

gotta stay sharp!
If Slasher takes no skills and Jason isn't good then he shouldn't be hard to beat ;)
Exactly *cough* level up op *cough* but he just needs to practice. Like that shoulder charge is a high. Neutral duck and punish and that stuff. Jason can be scary dough