General/Other - Mileena The Mileena General Discussion Thread (All Variations)

[Law Hero]

I been told the roll is now a low, is this true?
All I really wanted/need to scrub ppl out online.
I'M DYING TO KNOW!!!!!!!!

I'm sorry to tell you, but it was a lie.

 

[delbuster]

dont think so, according to http://community.wbgames.com/t5/Latest-Updates/Hotfix-6-1-15/ba-p/534237

• Mileena – 1 has 11 startup frames (down from 14)
• Mileena – D1 has 9 startup frames (down from 11)
• Mileena – 2 has 8 startup frames (down from 10)
• Mileena – adjusted hitbox on b3 to hit more consistently

this is pretty legit, i like d1 and 2 changes. wish d1 was even faster... but whatever.

 

[TheGabStandard]

I guess the question now is D1's hitbox, has it been fixed?

 

[LionHeart]

It was just a hotfix. They can only change things like frame data etc.
Piercing and ravenous need very small tweaks to their variations and hopefully that comes with the next big balance patch.

Side note: test out the new b3 aa. Sonyas jump ins now only beat me if they are point blank cross ups or super deep. 35% meter less
Anti air punishes with the new and improved b3.

b34~air sai , f23~roll , b21+24 ??

 

[TheGabStandard]

b34~air sai , f23~roll , b21+24 ??

If I had to guess that would probably be the combo that @TakeAChance is talking about with the anti-air punish

 

[LionHeart]

If I had to guess that would probably be the combo that @TakeAChance is talking about with the anti-air punish

Yeah that's why I'm quoting him to ask if that is indeed the combo he's talking about lol.

 

[EMPRESS_SunFire]

So... She will get 1% more damage in some punishers since 123~roll will now be a legit punisher, not bad...

I'm so happy with the changes she's getting, except that they haven't fixed the hixbox of her D1 -_- which makes it useless no matter how fast they make it.

IMO the only thing she needs is B12's range to be the same (piercing's) in every variation. And universal low sai would be amazing too but I think if they buff B12 in Ravenous and Ethereal she will be very good in Ravenous. Ethereal well... The whole variation needs to be changed lol.

 

[TheGabStandard]

I'm so happy with the changes she's getting, except that they haven't fixed the hixbox of her D1 -_- which makes it useless no matter how fast they make it.

Sigh.....

 

[Endding]

Damn, I wish Mileena got that Kenshi treatment. lol

I hope she doesnt to be honest.

Also Tanya's teleport though, seemed we where all thinking the same.

 

[ZeroEffect]

Yeah, D1 being faster would help, but only if it doesn't still whiff point blank. If the range gets improved, this is now a legit interrupt against pressure, and a legit check after Low sai hits as @TakeAChance was looking for.

I am STILL holding out hope for Air Sai and IAS being comboable into Roll or Run cancels on hit. The fact that it combos every other time except raw is weird. Especially considering the execution it takes to get IAS down.

 

[TakeAChance]

b34~air sai , f23~roll , b21+24 ??

Off the anti-air I just use B3~teleport. B34~sai off an anti air tends to make the air sai whiff.

B3~teleport~sai F24~roll B21~2+3 = 35%

 

[TakeAChance]

Yeah, D1 being faster would help, but only if it doesn't still whiff point blank. If the range gets improved, this is now a legit interrupt against pressure, and a legit check after Low sai hits as @TakeAChance was looking for.

I am STILL holding out hope for Air Sai and IAS being comboable into Roll or Run cancels on hit. The fact that it combos every other time except raw is weird. Especially considering the execution it takes to get IAS down.

2 Is now a legit check after low sai. At 8 frames and with +1/2 advantage you are looking at either a 7f or 6f normal into a mixup. If they start backdashing/poking or jumping we have to still commit to hard reads such as roll or telekick, but still at least we have a proper check now.

 

[ZeroEffect]

2 Is now a legit check after low sai. At 8 frames and with +1/2 advantage you are looking at either a 7f or 6f normal into a mixup. If they start backdashing/poking or jumping we have to still commit to hard reads such as roll or telekick, but still at least we have a proper check now.

Can't they mash uppercut to beat standing 2 or is that too fast? Can't test at the moment.
And lol, I pray for a backdash when I hit low sai. B12 is too good.

 

[1man3letters]

2 Is now a legit check after low sai. At 8 frames and with +1/2 advantage you are looking at either a 7f or 6f normal into a mixup. If they start backdashing/poking or jumping we have to still commit to hard reads such as roll or telekick, but still at least we have a proper check now.

dont forget low profile moves, since 2 is a high. so you can be poked under with d3/d4s and probs some d1s even if the frames say they cant,
EDIT: yea just tested there and mileenas 11 frame d4 can beat a 2 check after low sai(so sure alot more stuff can), also depending on spacing/strings you'll be pushed away to were 2 will just whiff anyway

 

[TakeAChance]

dont forget low profile moves, since 2 is a high. so you can be poked under with d3/d4s and probs some d1s even if the frames say they cant,
EDIT: yea just tested there and mileenas 11 frame d4 can beat a 2 check after low sai, also depending on spacing/strings you'll be pushed away to were 2 will just whiff anyway

Dammit, let a man dream!

Yea, the pokes would have to be hard read unfortunately with a roll, which puts us right back into the same situation pre hot fix. The Risk/Reward is never worth it for the low sai

 

[delbuster]

does low sai d1 not check things?

 

[1man3letters]

does low sai d1 not check things?

being a 9 frame mid now since patch it could be a option yes, -4 on block +16 on hit aswell

 

[Jer]

Just posted in here to say that I still think she kinda sucks =/ I'm happy for you guys that there's buffs though.

 

[ZeroEffect]

being a 9 frame mid now since patch it could be a option yes, -4 on block +16 on hit aswell

It depends on the range of D1. I heard nothing about that being fixed.

 

[ZeroEffect]

Just posted in here to say that I still think she kinda sucks =/ I'm happy for you guys that there's buffs though.

Mileena for top tier in 2018!

 

[projectzero00]

It's nice that she's getting some buffs but imo they're not the right ones.
As some people already mentioned, no matter how quick her d1 becomes, if it still whiffs (and its range isn't D'Vorah lvl either) it is useless.
What I really am hoping for in the future, is for her f1 to become overhead so that she at least has a usable one. Also I want her instant air sais back. I am not even gonna mention Ethereal coz after looking at Tanya's specials yesterday I kinda lost hope.

 

[ZeroEffect]

Also I want her instant air sais back. I am not even gonna mention Ethereal coz after looking at Tanya's specials yesterday I kinda lost hope.

IAS is still in the game. It just doesn't give her a chance to combo. Which it should.

 

[EndofGameBoss]

2 being 8 frames is nice, but she isn't getting the right buffs imo.

 

[JaeTea]

Tanya seems like a Mileena replacement. Even has similar costume and hair. I hate this game.

Just watched the NRS Stream. You're right. Only they made Tanya X100 times better. God damn you NRS.

 

[TheGabStandard]

It's nice that she's getting some buffs but imo they're not the right ones.
As some people already mentioned, no matter how quick her d1 becomes, if it still whiffs (and its range isn't D'Vorah lvl either) it is useless.
What I really am hoping for in the future, is for her f1 to become overhead so that she at least has a usable one. Also I want her instant air sais back. I am not even gonna mention Ethereal coz after looking at Tanya's specials yesterday I kinda lost hope.

IAS is in the game but just harder to do and can't combo as ZeroEffect said.