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zaf

professor
I have not gotten around to spectral Yet. I will be in attendance for Toryuken this weekend and I wanted to practice mos since that is what I will be using.

Cant wait to lab with spectral this upcoming week!
 

Afumba

Noob
Anyone with a PS4, what's new? How much meter do air specials do in Spectral now? Did any changes get snuck past?
About the meter gain - In fly mode the special give the same amount of meter they give you if you do them grounded or while normally airborne.
Compared to the others you get the same for SoulAssension>special as the others get from Hover>special... unless i missed something.
 

zaf

professor
So how was ermac affected if anything with patch? Going to be picking him up tonight.
Nothing negative as far as I am aware.

I think the F2 normal was changed from either being + or neutral, to being -2 now.
(This is just the F2 on it's own and not the entire string)
No huge deal there.

Standing 1 is also now +1 or +2 I forget. You would have to check.
I think 11 was changed as well.
That is really about it
 

Nyaa

Let's fighting love
Ok got to play some offline casuals (I stopped playing this game online entirely, netcode is too bad to be honest...) against some good players and while not saying this is the best way to play Ermac I would like to share my mindset on how to play this character as a safe zoner.

Still playing MoS, I never end my combo in the 'vortex', rather I end with push if possible and lift if I have to, to gain some distance and start zoning with flight > slam. This might as well be a fullscreen low projectile, it's quite fast, hitbox is the entire screen immediately, do good damge on hit and block (8% on hit, 2% on block how broken is this) and builds him meter. It's hitbox, while being a low, is actually quite high and will catch people midair a lot of times and catch them during jump startup. Thing is, Ermac got some options from flight his opponent must respect and if you got the distance you force them to play your guessing game where you can react for full combo into the same guessing game.

First off, flight dodges a lot of projectiles because of its height, so at a distance they can't really try to play the same zoner game. If they throw a projectile while on the ground and you slam you get a trade, if you do nothing you can just wait then slam when the projectile has passed, and if your reactions are on point you can outright punish with a teleport on reaction for a full combo.

Being in flight gives them a solid reason to come closer (to do anything), either by ground or air. If they dare to jump in to avoid the slam and you didn't slam you can punish jumps on reaction with teleport. Again, for a full combo. This gives them a good reason not to jump, and if they even got close enough to do a jump-in attack on you, the damage you suffer compared to all the chances you've gotten is miniscule, depending on character. This gives them a reason to get by ground and this is where slam is so good, on hit it does 8% and on block, 2%. Regardless of range. If blocked point blank, Ermac is still silly safe.

tldr; at distance, Ermac in flight is a situation that's heavily in favor of Ermac and I try to get into this situation as often as I can and as far as zoning tools go, flight is really good. Opponent have to do at least 2-3 good guesses to even get close to Ermac and the risk/reward favors Ermac.

Exceptions are characters with decent teleports, but you can easily bait this by just going levitate then land and punish.

50/50's are for chumps.
 

Dope Dojo

The Bomb Diggity
I managed to replicate this twice. Unfortunately since PSN is down (For debatable reasons) I wasn't able to capture this glitch in Hi Def. Wish I had caught some of the silly shit I was doing. Oh well, this should give you the jyst of it.


p.s I was doing Tele Lift and dashing back and forth at the same time. Mobile Lift, why you so good?!
 

Razoor

Noob
Been practicing Ermac for awhile now, but I just can't seem to get the D1 into soulball after a teleport down consistently.

If anyone got any input/techniques on how I can get this down better, please share.

This might be obvious or oldnews to some, but for those that are noobs to FGs like me, what made something that was kinda hard a lot easier for me, hitting D1 into DB1/DB2 after a teleport was just inputting, D1, B1/2 after a teleport to cancel into a lift/blast, at the same time but seperately, eg; (D1)(B1/2). Takes some timing to get down, nothing too difficult can now hit D1 into lift or blast after a teleport 100%.
 
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Scrotie79

Wannabe Pro Jobber
It's been a while since I last popped in here and I am seeing new glitches pop up after NRS supposedly fixes the Spectral Ermac bug/glitch? Pfffttt hahahaha way to go NRS smooth, real smooth guys. sheesh.
 

Arkayne

Jade Mod. Poison Ivy
lWow, I was just about to post something about that! I was in training mode practicing punishes and was just about to speak about that!! lol! I definitely think that was a glitch...
 

Arkayne

Jade Mod. Poison Ivy
Oh, with that glitch it will continuously drain meter when he blocks your attacks and.or you attack him
 

Krazo101

Noob
Is anyone else having trouble punishing slightly unsafe moves with Ermac online? I'm trying to find a good way to get decent damage when punishing moves that are about -5 to -10 on block but I'm having trouble getting these to connect consistently even while offline. Is there something I'm doing wrong?
 
Hi there, Ermac was my main in MKX so I was willing to learn his mystic variation but I can't figure out how it's supposed to be played: are there any good players using this variation or is everyone sticking with MoS?
 

Afumba

Noob
Hi there, Ermac was my main in MKX so I was willing to learn his mystic variation but I can't figure out how it's supposed to be played: are there any good players using this variation or is everyone sticking with MoS?
Most ppls go with MoS as its superior in every aspect. Mystic can only hope for some NRS love in the future.
 

Inception

I love Kitana
I'm trying to figure out all of ermacs best pokes and moves to space people and play footsies with. If anyone can tell me that would be great.