He already has a safe wake up in that variation in Ex df2, which is -4 on block...but of course it only gave you a vortex set up on hit, while scoop will give a wake up combo starter)This is huge. Quan has a wakeup now!
wouldn't the shards from the clone hit as well?A large amount of air moves in this game cannot be anti aired unless you have a good armoured move
His S1 is mediocre at best as an AA and EX ice burst is 20% dmg for a bar and the point is that the clone loses its basic function, someone like KL can freely jump at you
Him "just backdash"ing means that because of this ridiculous nerf he has to read a jump even when the clone is out because the clone DOESNT FUNCTION THE WAY IT SHOULD
Well this is terrifying....If that "fix" making it so you can't do a jump attack on the first frame of a jump means what I think it does, then Kitana is now nerfed to oblivion. Will test in a few minutes when the update installs.
@xKhaoTik @RunwayMafia @Xero_18 @xWildx @Jimmypotato @Laos_boy
Sigh....People just do not understand game development.They may not be balance changes and just changes to the game to make it work as originally intended. But that still implies that for 3 straight games they could not get their game to work as intended by release date and that they are OK with releasing games that have not met their intended goals. That does not say much about there QA. Either way its a bad look.
We'll see.wouldn't the shards from the clone hit as well?
Very true and quite sad really.In this community crying gets better results then learning.
You mean.....he has to play like everyone else? Perish the thought!A large amount of air moves in this game cannot be anti aired unless you have a good armoured move
His S1 is mediocre at best as an AA and EX ice burst is 20% dmg for a bar and the point is that the clone loses its basic function, someone like KL can freely jump at you
Him "just backdash"ing means that because of this ridiculous nerf he has to read a jump even when the clone is out because the clone DOESNT FUNCTION THE WAY IT SHOULD
No, that's KL mains, you can hear the SHPINNN, STARTEN SLOWER DA SHPIIIEEN.My feelings about SZ nerf:
?Well this is terrifying....
Ah, gotcha. Well if he really cant ever just back out and hit people back into it, that sucks.A large amount of air moves in this game cannot be anti aired unless you have a good armoured move
His S1 is mediocre at best as an AA and EX ice burst is 20% dmg for a bar and the point is that the clone loses its basic function, someone like KL can freely jump at you
Him "just backdash"ing means that because of this ridiculous nerf he has to read a jump even when the clone is out because the clone DOESNT FUNCTION THE WAY IT SHOULD
oh i'm not doing anythingWe'll see.
Whatever happens, this is what NRS chose for this character. There is 100% no use whining since this was obviously thought out enough and 99% won't change.
So best thing you can do is go into the lab. It's a big nerf but in the end it doesn't remove SZ from top 10.
IF the shards hit and IF the armour doesn't make the clone go away, this could actually turn into a buff, I'd certainly love for my opponent to have a new option that I can punish for a combo that starts with 21% from shatter.oh i'm not doing anything
i don't really care much... I was just curious... cuz i knwo the shards add a crap ton of damage to any combo. I would expect the armor hit to make the cloen go away tho
maybe not tho? idk.
He can, the entire consequence of the nerf is the addition of a new mindgame after the clone.Ah, gotcha. Well if he really cant ever just back out and hit people back into it, that sucks.
But, if there are characters that cant jump at him because their jump kicks or jip dont let them, then it just means sub zero cant do the exact same thing to every character.
Lol just you wait until all the D'vorahs show what they've been hiding.HAHAHA rip high damage combos Raiden, KJ, etc. That's what you get HAHAHHA
That was top 16 to get into top 8.There were 2 Kahns that fought each other in top 8. If it was you, how do you not remember fighting another Kahn? It was on stream and it's also on the main results page.
Why not? I say quote AND report. The members here deserve to know that this user is an ignorant bigot.@Rice
Please don't quote that shit. Just report it.
This was my point. Calling it a repair patch or a balance patch is just semantics, cause in the end it changes the game that we were used to playing. From either perspective, it will have a negative connotation if you wanted perfection on the first try. So just play the game.Sigh....People just do not understand game development.
First off: NRS only has part of a say on when the release date. Warner Bros. probably has a hard line date for release to pad out a quarterly number they have to adhere to and/or request a delay for.
Second off, it is monumentally rare that *any* game *ever* works exactly as intended by release date. Even the gods at Capcom with the entire competitive aracde scene have released poorly balanced practically broken itterations of their various titles all the time.
Things always fall through the cracks because at some point in development you have to stop thinking about the game in terms of "design" and start thinking about it in terms of polish and ensuring that the game actually freaking works at all.
I do not own a PS4 and for the last month or so I've been stuck with the PC version of the game. Do you think I give a flying fuck about whether or not Kung Jin's flipkick is +4 or -3 or what the properties of Ice Clone are, or whether or not it has adhered to NRS' design? Hell the fuck no I don't, because thanks to high voltage I haven't even been able to play the fucking game.
Stability>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Balance.
Ok. I knew I wasn't crazy, I do remember it being on the stream.That was top 16 to get into top 8.
I hope you have more up your sleeve than this...Lol just you wait until all the D'vorahs show what they've been hiding.